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Bro, how does a team president build chemistry, friendship, and attitude? Isn't that the job of the coaches and the players who are team leaders? From what I understand, team presidents rarely interact w/the players. Am I wrong? Do you they hang out w/the players and give speeches about playing for each other, the importance of effort, selflessness, etc?
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I liked Banner, I thought he had some good concepts.
Banner as a been counter and cap guru....... excellent. Banner as a guy in charge of a team who had NO CLUE how much team attitude, friendship, and Comradery means to a NFL team failed in a major way.  He had a great eye for talent and he knew how to build a team talent wise, but he had no clue how to build a close cohesive unit that would prosper on the field. I have to give him props for bringing in a lot of the talent that he did
gm...you nailed it...
...Banner's experience on the business side did not teach him the necessary skills needed to deal with people/coaches/players...and it was Banner's lack of people skills that turned out to be his undoing...Banner was unable to change who he was, a businessman with a business mentality.
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I always thought team presidents were to been barely seen and not really heard.
I rarely hear about team presidents doing conference every other week on any other teams. Normally it's the GM and HC all the time, like it is now.
I didn't like banner, but I always found it funny that people blast Banner for the same thing they was wishing Holgren would do. Once Holgren got his GM and HC, he stepped back into the shadows during the season, like ALL presidents do. Now, going on vacation during the season was dumb, but he didn't interfere with normal football operations and let the guys he hired do their jobs.
Banner, in my PoV, took being president as trying to be the face of the franchise. Complete opposite. Both were, hindsight., dumb hires.
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Vers Rishuz this argument sounds like I'll show you mine if you show me yours lol
I have nothing against banner at all other than hiring his friend lombardi. When he hired Lombardi, I was hoping he would get fired. He brought in some good coaches, he saw Richardson was even slower and more indecisive and he wasnt afraid to pull the plug but Lombardi is cancerous.
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Bro, how does a team president build chemistry, friendship, and attitude? Isn't that the job of the coaches and the players who are team leaders? From what I understand, team presidents rarely interact w/the players. Am I wrong? Do you they hang out w/the players and give speeches about playing for each other, the importance of effort, selflessness, etc?
the answer is yes, no, and sometimes. It is primarily the coaches job to build that kind of positive work environment in the locker room and on the field... it's the President's job to hire a coach that can do that. There were rumors coming out of Carolina when we hired Chud that there was a lot of tension among the team, a number of players weren't real happy with him.. perhaps Banner should have known that? Perhaps he did and decided it wasn't a big deal.. I don't know.
All I know is that at most companies if management and workers aren't getting along and being productive it becomes the executive level's responsibility to fix it.. then the executive level has to figure out how it got that way.
You see a lot of players for successful teams talk about the culture "from the top down" where everybody from the owner to the water boy are on the same page and pulling in the right direction... Banner was pretty high in that pecking order so if something was wrong, he has to take some of the blame for allowing it to happen and some for not fixing it..
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Also hard to build great chemistry when he's playing the waiver wire throughout the season.
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I don't know the details as to the why's of the former regime being fired. What I do know is there must have been some major dysfunction for firing everyone from the coaches all the way to the FO.
So bad in fact, that Haslam couldn't even imagine it having any positive results moving forward. That would have to include some very major issues. If a coaching staff is so poor they all must be fired after only one year, the people who hired them are every bit as much at fault as anyone.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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LOL............okay. I get it.
Then again, I have always got where you guys were coming from.
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