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Working in Manziel's favor is the fact that owner Jimmy Haslam was a primary reason he was selected by the team.

Just heard about this story on 92.3 FM, 'The Fan.'

'Signs of Johnny Manziel's struggles evident in poor practice outings'

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jaso...ractice-outings

JASON LA CANFORA
CBS Sports NFL Insider

December 21, 2014 8:01 am ET

Johnny Manziel's ugly debut outing last week prompted no shortage of concern within the Browns organization given how historically bad it was. While it remains a very small sample size, when coupled with his troubling outings at practice, has certainly caused some alarm with a hope that he can take a step forward at Carolina.

Sources said the same erratic and at times non-existent footwork he displayed in his starting debut, the hyper-activity in the pocket, the poor decision-making and the overall overwhelmed nature of his performance was very similar to what he displayed in practice all week. He appeared outwardly nervous and unsure, as was the case in practice as well once he was named the starter.

One source estimated the 2014 first-round pick completed maybe 40 percent of his passes in practice leading up to his first start, and there was considerable angst about whether that would transpire on Sunday, or whether the bigger stage would bring something better out of the youngster.

With things so bad in his debut, the Browns are trying to instill more fundamental pocket work in the game plan this week, sources said, with fewer read-option looks or plays that would lead directly into Manziel taking off running. The hope is to slow him down a little and get him playing the position more soundly and traditionally, without sapping his athleticism.

He was a little better in practice this past week, sources said, but not exponentially so, and is working on not giving away so much with his eyes and locking on to options, particularly big receiver Josh Gordon. At Texas A&M, he could get away with throwing jump balls to huge star receiver Mike Evans with regularity, but overshot teammates Sunday and the Bengals defense had far too easy a time determining where the ball would be going.

While it may not be time to panic just yet, sources said if that opening performance is indicative of what transpires in the final two weeks, then panic could set in much sooner than would be the norm in these situations. Working in Manziel's favor is the fact that owner Jimmy Haslam was a primary reason he was selected by the team.


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LaCanfora has not written one positive word about the browns or any browns player since his buddy Lombardi was canned. If this had come from any other source it would be alarming, it would be concerning, it would be frightening, but coming from Lombardi's boy toy lol I may print this one out just to give the article the respect it deserves. Taco night and little kings, yea it will come in handy.

[quote=3rd_and_20]Just heard about this story on 92.3 FM, 'The Fan.'


“I think he’s got enough,” wide receiver Josh Gordon said. “He’s got what we need right now to move forward and pull off these last three wins.

“He’s willing to do anything, extend a play, and make something out of nothing. That mindset isn’t in everybody. A lot of guys will quit, take a sack or throw the ball away. That’s not what he does.”

And that’s why we’ll all be tuning in on Sunday.
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With things so bad in his debut, the Browns are trying to instill more fundamental pocket work in the game plan this week, sources said, with fewer read-option looks or plays that would lead directly into Manziel taking off running.

Based on what was seen on Sunday, Jason's "sources" have been revealed to be pixie fairies and his journalistic integrity to be as trustworthy as Nixon.

It warms Arch's heart that Manziel is failing.

For now on that's how he'll np be referenced. Arch. Not Archbolddawg. Just Arch.

I'll call John "Johnny" when he does something on the field. Fair enough?

Might be waiting awhile for that. After that TD scramble against Buffalo, he's done nothing much, especially with his arm. Can't be a runner in this league, heck he couldn't even stay healthy for back to back games.

Never said anything about you not liking John.

Just commenting on the enjoyment you get out of it.

Calling a lemon a lemon?

That's what I was doing with you.

You don't have to get mad about it.

Calling it like it is, right?

That's what I'm doing.

How is it that Seattle can find Russell Wilson in the third round, and this guy has been mr consistent since DAY ONE, and we continue to screw the pooch on picking QBs.

LaCanfora has not written one positive word about the browns or any browns player since his buddy Lombardi was canned. If this had come from any other source it would be alarming, it would be concerning, it would be frightening, but coming from Lombardi's boy toy lol I may print this one out just to give the article the respect it deserves. Taco night and little kings, yea it will come in handy.

Which is all well and good except it's exactly what those of us who aren't charter members of Manziel's jock strap of the week club have been saying. He's not put the work in, he doesn't have skills or the attitude and he's playing like it.

I'm pretty sure there was more to Manziel being pulled than his hammy.

How is it that Seattle can find Russell Wilson in the third round, and this guy has been mr consistent since DAY ONE, and we continue to screw the pooch on picking QBs.

Hell, I just might jump ship and join them.

What is stopping you?...see ya later!