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Well, that's just wonderful.

I am starting to think that he will be traded for whatever we can get for him before the draft.

adios

Why am I not surprised and don't care? I just hope Farmer brings in a top prospect from the draft.

This assures 1) the Browns have rights to his contract for an extra year and 2) he will not be re-signed by the Browns.

I do not see farmer investing a 1st round pick at WR. The value to a team as far as winning just isn't there. Plus, Shanahan's offense emphasizes precision more than raw speed or size. He believes that scheme can get a receiver open, and we have to admit that this is exactly what happened this year.

When are we going to trade this jerk?

Reports are saying it was because he missed walk-through practice today. It's been a wasted year for Gordon too. He just can't get it right.

When we can get a decent pick for him. Most assuredly he will return to Cleveland and kick our ass. I would trade him to the division that is last on the current rotation. LOL

By suspending him, he becomes a restricted FA, since he didn't play at least six games. This is a good move by the FO. Now we hold his rights, and got him by the nads.

If he would have been unrestricted, he could have signed anywhere.

I'm done with him, although if he stays clean thru the offseason, I might just give him another chance, at least to build some trade value. If not, get what you can for him.

However, according to ProFootballTalk, the Browns have not yet decided whether Gordon will be suspended with or without pay, only the latter of which would keep the season being accrued. At this point, that decision will essentially determine whether or not the season accrues.

PFT is also reporting, per a source, that Gordon is exploring his options in response to the suspension and an appeal through the NFLPA is possible

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2014/12/27/...t-accrue-toward

Wow I did not know this... thanks for the info bro.

The Browns are within their rights to suspend him if he indeed did blow off a walk through. (especially with his history) I think that he would have a really hard time winning an appeal under those circumstances.

I don't know what to think. I'm glad we got his contract for another year, but what is that going to be worth?
I'm torn because I want a guy that can play like that, and if he had been here all year he'd most likely have been awesome again.
But I really can't stand people who have that much of a gift and don't appreciate it.
Also, like someone else said, he'll most likely leave, come back here and kick our ass.
Best case scenario, help him get his head straight, have a monster year next year and pay him to stay and continue to have monster years.
One can only hope.

You should have titled this thread "Josh Gordon is a putz".

Josh Gordon suspended by Cleveland Browns for missing team walk-through

Baltimore, Md. - Receiver Josh Gordon was suspended by the Browns for violation of team rules after he missed today's mandatory walk-through, Northeast Ohio Media Group has confirmed.

Gordon was placed on the list for reserve/suspended by club and will miss Sunday's season finale in Baltimore.

Johnny Manziel, who's on injured reserve, was also late for treatment on his hamstring and was fined.

The suspension was the next step for Gordon, who's been late to other team functions this season and has been fined for it.

Missing the game leaves Gordon with only five games played this season, which does not account as an accrued year. It means that the Browns will have him under contract through 2016 -- unless Gordon's agent Drew Rosenhaus and the NFLPA fight the situation and win.

When Gordon's year-long marijuana ban for this season was reduced to 10 games and he became eligible for the last six games, the Browns got cheated out of a year of free agency. With Gordon set to play in six games in 2014 -- an accrued season -- he would've been eligible for unrestricted free agency after 2015.

Now, apparently the Browns got that lost year back.

The way it stands now, Gordon will be a restricted free agent after 2015 and an unrestricted after 2016.

Unless a battle with Gordon's camp ensues -- and it likely will.

NFL Network's Michael Silver, who first reported that Gordon missed Saturday morning's walk-through in Berea, also reported that Johnny Manziel missed the walk-through. But Manziel is on injured reserve with his hamstring injury and is not eligible to participate in the walk-through.

Manziel, was however, late for treatmet on his hamstring and fined accordingly.

Gordon started five games after returning from his 10-game suspension imposed by the NFL. He made 24 catches for 303 yards.

Gordon was also suspended by the NFL for two games at the beginning of 2013 for testing positive for codeine, which he said was in his prescribed cough syrup. He returned to lead the NFL with 1,646 yards and make the Pro Bowl and All-Pro teams.

Gordon's current suspension -- his third overall but first by the Browns -- could spell the end of him in a Browns uniform.

Browns general manager Ray Farmer has consistently said a team does not need an elite receiver to win a Super Bowl, and the Browns have not been pleased with Gordon's performance since he returned for the Falcons game Nov. 23rd.

After catching eight and seven passes in his first two games back, he's caught two, three and four in his last three games.

The Browns might be getting to the point where they feel Gordon isn't worth the trouble. And if he feels the Browns suspended him for this game to keep him from becoming a free agent after next year, he might not want to be here any longer.

The Browns activated receiver Phil Bates from the practice squad to take Gordon's spot.

Bates is 6-2, 220 pounds and is officially in his first NFL season out of Ohio University. Bates was a quarterback at OU and was originally signed by Seattle as an undrafted free agent in 2012. He debuted as a reserve with the Seahawks this season and appeared in one game before spending the past eight weeks on the Browns' practice squad. He will wear No. 89.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/josh_gordon_suspended_by_cleve.html

I want to know what's up with him being late to practice on Friday,and wearing Benji's jersey...then not showing up at all for the walk through? I'm starting to wonder if Pettine has lost this team,with all the crap going on lately.

Or maybe we could hold Josh Gordon responsible for what Josh Gordon did or, in this case, didn't do?

ol smokie up to his ol tricks?

manzel fined for being late as well...they must of car pooled

Well Gordon is a screwball,no doubt about that....my point is just all the issues on the burner lately. I just don't like what's been going on with the team since that INDY game.

Done. No one is going to overturn his suspension with that taking place this year, after already having been suspended for the 1st 10 games.

Manziel was late for treatment and was fined, same as Gordon was for being late. Gordon has habitually been late. Obviously fines did not get his attention. What a shame. He has multi million dollar talent. He could be the best WR in the game today, and maybe one of the best of all time ..... except he seems intent on throwing it all away. What a shame.

It is a shame. The kid could have gotten tons of money by now,just in endorsements alone aside from a contract extension,or the money he could have commanded in FA had he just put in the work. I don't see him lasting the offseason without another incident.

What is he worth? We seem to be looking at potential upside and giving a pass to this nonsense. Beating the Ratters is our only focus now. We don't shoot ourselves in the foot; we burn the clip and re-load. Saddens me.

But he promised . ...

What's he worth?


Talent-wise: whatever Dez Bryant is worth

Reality: we couldn't get a 4th for him right now

What's he worth? Not sure at this point,but I was done with his crap a long time ago,and will be curious to see what kind of house cleaning goes on soon.

JC


*snicker* Meathead proves once again he's dead from the neck up. Trade him for some magic beans and be done with it. Draft a couple WR's in April and hope one of them can become special.

Of course hoping for a draft pick to work out is close to insanity in Cleveland. We've drafted pretty poorly of late. Mingo is looking very bust like. Gilbert is proving to be a bigger head case than Johnny football... West is in the doghouse for supposed attitude problems.... Meathead is well.... a meathead. If we can't draft better than this it doesn't really matter what if anything we get for Meat.

I think it is obvious he doesn't want to be in Cleveland. The Browns should trade him.

Sup Carolina..

I don't think coach has lost the team but I do think
Gordon better shape up or ship out.

He didn't help us win anything when he came back.
Even JM played better. Did I just say that?

Same for john m and justin gilbert.

Just my opinion..players want to get paid and win. You know his ego took a hit when we won all those games without him and then tanked when he came back.

Dang - Hoyer should smack him since after his return, Hoyer locked into him and threw regardless of the coverage, and his coming back on the field contributed to Hoyer losing out starter money (not solely I know but still Hoyer seemed so locked onto JG).

He has skill and talent. Keep him on the bench, keep building and winning without him and eventually he will play team ball. With all the PR this year on negative behaviour and the NFL, he may not get any offers.

We have a full offseason and training camp (hopefully no drug suspensions). Success on the field and focus toward 1 common team goal will help. I find it surprising that the locker room leaders let this stuff happen - another possible sign of a non-united team.

I think that it's obvious that Pettine has not lost this team. In fact, he may have gained a ton of respect in the locker room by taking control of these situations. The team is obviously playing hard for him.

Pettine is laying a solid foundation of discipline for this team and I like what he is doing

On a disciplined team these idiots would never have DARED to throw a party during the week and miss important meetings. Think this would happen on Belichicks team? Coughlins Giants?
On the Giants if you're not 10 minutes early, you're LATE.

Those teams - the Giants, Patriots, Steelers, etc. - have had that attitude instilled over 10 years or so... 40+ in the case of the Steelers.

Pettine has indeed laid the foundation for discipline but he inherited a plate of hot vomit and had Manziel handed to him to add to it. That's a heaping plate of hot vomit.

Now it's up to the owner and general manager to get rid of these cancers. All three of them.

Exactly Spirit, He (Pettine) is starting something that has been absent from the Browns since our return ...

I'm playing a little devil's advocate here, but what you're talking about sounds similar (not exactly alike, but similar) to the Mangini-era of discipline and professionalism.

Mangini was run out of town because he only brought in choir boys, ran Berea like a dictator and shipped out the malcontents (Edwards and Winslow).

For the record, I think that Mangini went way overboard based on some of those reports. Also, based on what we know, I think Pettine is taking a more balanced, reasonable approach to what Mangini was trying to accomplish. This takes time, as another poster pointed out. Players need time to get acclimated to this (or for it to be decided they're a lost cause, and ship them out). For a player like Gordon, it takes time for a concept to make its way through the many layers of meat (meathead), the layer of cement, the large void of hot air and then the larger void of smoke to take hold in the few remaining active brain cells that haven't been smashed or smoke to death.

I like what Pettine is doing with the fines and suspensions. I like what Farmer is doing with his draft picks. Even his first rounders, who haven't gotten it at all this year, still have something left to prove. Corner and QB have the highest learning curves, so the book is not yet written on these guys.

I'm most curious to see what's going on with Gilbert. Hopefully more light will be shown on his situation. We all knew the kind of idiots Manziel and Gordon could be, but all this stuff on Gilbert is kind of a surprise. If he was lazy, or a malcontent, I would think we would've heard about it after the draft and earlier in the year. I mean, Pettine was sorta talking him up later in the year.

One thing is called into question in my opinion and bears review and some action. Saying that somebody better pick better is too easy. The part I am addressing and calling into question is the scouting and vetting part on our players before the draft.

No red flags, no questioning how guys responded? Might be overmanaging this phase.
Taking fliers on projects is one thing; bonehead picks that hurt the team and organization is inexcusable IMO. We must be putting too much weight on certain info or ignoring red flags or something else. Dissect the problem kids, the counter-productive busts or disappointments. Figure out why it all went south and how faulty evaluation contributed to that. Try not to step in it again before the next combine. Has to be like a 12-step koolaid addiction program somewhere.

On an upside, the gutty good play out of keeper individuals is really shining a light on the marginal products and underachievers who shouldn't be here hurting us and costing us games IMO.

and our wandering football wonder just came out swinging. no, not that type of swinging.

According to Mary Kay...

manziel said it was 100% false that he threw a party Friday night. Said he was with Gordon at one point Friday but not at night.

manziel was mad that he was blamed for josh Gordon missing the walk-through. Said he had three friends in from Texas, not a party.