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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. I'll bet you 100 bucks that he makes it. Haha. I'm in too.
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. I'll bet you 100 bucks that he makes it. LOL
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. I'll bet you 100 bucks that he makes it. Haha. I'm in too. Can I get in on this action too? 
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. I'll bet you 100 bucks that he makes it. 
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Joe is going to play three more years tops.
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That assumes Hoyer will take backup money. He turned it down last off season. He believes he's a starter and will want starter money as a FA. It's likely some team will be desperate enough to give it to him. Hopefully that isn't us.
You're assuming that Haslam FORCED Farmer to take Johnny. I've seen to evidence of this. Even if it was so, Farmer took Gilbert, a guy turning out to be an even bigger headcase. And West has shown attitude problems as well. It seems as if Farmer has a type that he like to draft and that type is egotistic nutjob. True, no one really knows if Haslam forced Farmer's hand. Gilbert HAS to have to some ability in someone's eyes to have been drafted that high. I'm not sure how you evaluate someone's work ethic since that is not my expertise. But, at this point, I'll say Gilbert > Johnny Jerkoff in terms of ability. Gilbert and West have the ability to be on the field and contribute IF they come to understand the demands of the PROFESSION. I think there is some middle ground with Hoyer in terms of $$$. Maybe more than backup $$$ but less than "true" starter $$$. It really depends on how long the organization believes they need him to bridge the gap to the next starter. Not having Hoyer puts us in a worse position IMO. Curious though, any FA QBs that can come here and get it done for 2-3 years in your opinion? Hoyer is a very good backup QB. I see nothing that says he's the "answer" at the position. While he was managing the game and taking care of the ball he was just alright. Not anywhere near great but good enough to win some games. Then the wheels came off and he turned into an interception machine. If he will sign for backup money and accept that role as a fill in starter and tutor to each and every QB we bring in then that's fine. But we need to be very clear that he isn't the future and we aren't going to pay him like it. And it's NOT "his" job. He's a place holder until we FINE the future.
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. I'll bet you 100 bucks that he makes it. Haha. I'm in too. Can I get in on this action too? count me in on this bet too
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Sign Hoyer. Provide clarity and continuity at the QB position.
Cut or trade Gordon.
Manziel is third string entering season. He's told he's playing just stay on team and not get cut.
Stay where you are in the draft and take BPA.
Resign Skrine. That is pretty much my ideal scenario. If Manziel wants it enough, he'll work hard enough. Hoyer - I'm still intrigued but I just want a QB. If we build the team, we may entice one. That should be Farmers ideal as well. I think this is what the majority of us want.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. If he does it's on rep not production this year.... he's already in. See a fan of football would know this. You like to make comments like you know things but you know nothing
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I think you are discounting the chance that Hoyer can and will improve.
First time in his career he played this many games.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. I'll bet you 100 bucks that he makes it. Haha. I'm in too. Can I get in on this action too? He very well may make it. On reputation. Are you all saying he's had a great year? That he hasn't had any problems this season?
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how many years did ogden play? I'm thinking he hung it up after 10, but he saw some team success.
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. I'll bet you 100 bucks that he makes it. Haha. I'm in too. Can I get in on this action too? He very well may make it. On reputation. Are you all saying he's had a great year? That he hasn't had any problems this season? He already has made it. They released the Pro Bowl rosters about a week ago.
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Joe has had a tremendous year.
Our expectations are skewed because he's so great.
He never, NEVER, gets help.
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Spirit has a point. Even though Thomas made it, he's done anything but earn it this year.
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. If he does it's on rep not production this year.... he's already in. See a fan of football would know this. You like to make comments like you know things but you know nothing Yeah man, Joes had an AWESOME season. Perfect in all things. That you think this shows you know F-all. Notice I said FOR HIM he's had a bad season... and he has. So piss off. Like I care what you think...
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Glad to see Gabriel back and that they didn't call a penalty on Hawkins for the block before he caught the ball!!
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. I'll bet you 100 bucks that he makes it. Haha. I'm in too. Can I get in on this action too? He very well may make it. On reputation. Are you all saying he's had a great year? That he hasn't had any problems this season? What we are saying is HE'S ALREADY MADE IT GENIUS!
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Why are they running the QB?
Welcome back, Joe, we missed you!…. That did not age well.
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KYLE NO MORE QB RUNS. WE HAVE THIGPEN NEXT.
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OK...come on Shanahan...enough with the read option. For crying out loud...Shaw is NOT a running QB. What a dumbass.
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. I'll bet you 100 bucks that he makes it. Haha. I'm in too. Can I get in on this action too? He very well may make it. On reputation. Are you all saying he's had a great year? That he hasn't had any problems this season? He already has made it. They released the Pro Bowl rosters about a week ago. That I did not know. The way this season has gone I haven't paid as much attention to such things...
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Welcome back, Joe, we missed you!…. That did not age well.
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Joe(for him) has had a bad season. Not sure he'll make the probowl this season. I'll bet you 100 bucks that he makes it. Haha. I'm in too. Can I get in on this action too? He very well may make it. On reputation. Are you all saying he's had a great year? That he hasn't had any problems this season? Definitely got there on his reputation this year!
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So you want to sign Hoyer to starter money and anoint him the franchise QB for the next 5 years? Wow. 12 touchdowns, `13 interceptions and he's a franchise player.... Alrighty then. No, I want to sign Hoyer for a REASONABLE amount to help transition the Browns as Shaw (or whoever) develops. Bring in a quality backup (if you don't think Shaw is ready yet). Tell Hoyer it's his job. Period. I want to see what this guy can do with Mack anchoring this line for a FULL season and our RBs likely not hitting a wall after 10-12 games. Bring in some help to get pressure on the passer. Manziel should be an after thought at this point. Get what you can for Gordon. Have Gilbert return kicks and work as a nickel. Get OL depth where you can. We need a couple play makers at WR. Draft, FA, I don't care. It is clear that there are guys who will make an effort for Pettine. It is also clear that there are guys that won't. Hopefully Haslam let's Farmer do his job and Farmer sticks to his draft board. BPA is the topic of the day with two first rounders coming up. Depending on how it shakes out, maybe switch to a 4-3. We have to get better at some point, don't we? That assumes Hoyer will take backup money. He turned it down last off season. He believes he's a starter and will want starter money as a FA. It's likely some team will be desperate enough to give it to him. Hopefully that isn't us. You're assuming that Haslam FORCED Farmer to take Johnny. I've seen to evidence of this. Even if it was so, Farmer took Gilbert, a guy turning out to be an even bigger headcase. And West has shown attitude problems as well. It seems as if Farmer has a type that he like to draft and that type is egotistic nutjob. OK this has been going on all season even when the team was winning. What is your agenda? So we can all get on the same page! My agenda is a team that has it's head out of it's ass. A front office that drafts properly. And avoids taking head cases. My favorite Jimmy Johnson quote: "hit me in the head with a hammer if I draft a dumb player". of course you would qote Jimmy. His best WR was Michael Irvin. his stupidity alone tore the team apart. Boys Will Be Boys: The Glory Days and Party Nights of the Dallas Cowboys Dynasty http://www.amazon.com/Boys-Will-Be-Cowboys-Dynasty/dp/0061256803
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At least he is making them!! 
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