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I'd now start to look where the first reports of the party came from, and then judge whether I trust that source more or less than Manziel himself.

And yes, it wouldn't take much for me to take most anyone's word over Manziel's, I admit that much.

Well, if there wasn't a party I am sure the 3 Stooges deserve a party,---- a going away party.

Yesterday, I watch Aaron Rodgers return to the game after suffering an injury and how he sparked his team w/his confident play, skill set, and love for the game.

It was pretty cool to watch until it made me think of what we have w/guys like Gordon, who can't even show up to meetings and practices on time.

You are so right. I was thinking of past Browns who ultimately felt this same entitlement as the current Browns and how badly their careers ending. Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow, Peyton Hillis, and Garard Warren. This is a culture here in Cleveland that must change before this team finally will turn a corner.

I am not ready to give up on the players talents. But, if they are unwilling to change their behavior then they can go.

Is it weird that not only do I not think we'd have beaten Baltimore had Gordon played..

But I assume Shaw would of had more interceptions?

Gordon has never in his career really fought for the ball.. I watch a guy like AJ Green, or Julio, and they GO UP AND GET IT..

Unless it's right there Gordon seems disinterested..

I don't believe anything Manzeil says. And after listening to Pettine today, I don't think he does either.

Probably from the team's security detail and the surveillance camera video.

This thread is about Gordon. Oh, you are blaming Manziel for Gordon's absence?

That's pretty smart. After all, Gordon has absolutely ZERO ISSUES until JM arrived.

Get outta here w/that BS!

JC

What an absolute waste of talent and potential. Maybe he will become a pretty successful car salesman.