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"How dare you insult the invisible wizard!"

Sad.

Charlie Hebdo has been pretty courageous with its satire over the years.

Religion, a mediaeval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry becomes a real threat to our freedoms. This religious totalitarianism has caused a deadly mutation in the heart of Islam and we see the tragic consequences in Paris today. I stand with Charlie Hebdo, as we all must, to defend the art of satire, which has always been a force for liberty and against tyranny, dishonesty and stupidity. ‘Respect for religion’ has become a code phrase meaning ‘fear of religion.’ Religions, like all other ideas, deserve criticism, satire, and, yes, our fearless disrespect.

-Salman Rushdie

All religion has jacked up killings.

In other news. iran hates Israel.

Yet more hate from The Trio of Doom!

Has a nice ring to it.

HA! The good old Liberal Elitist attitude.

To use your free speech to insult the Black race by calling them certain names, to use your free speech to insult Homosexuals by calling them
certain names, these things are evil and can be considered hate crimes.

But to use your free speech to insult a group of people and the
religion they hold dear, this is a Noble endeavor.

Pfft

Who is the third member?

LOL

I for one think of you hate, hate everybody.

Makes things a lot easier.

"Improvised explosive device" set off near Colorado Springs NAACP office

An improvised explosive device was detonated against the exterior wall of a building housing the Colorado Springs chapter of the NAACP on Tuesday, officials said.

The explosion knocked items off the office walls but no one was injured.

Agents from the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives went to the scene after the blast to gather evidence and place markers.

The FBI said that a gasoline can was placed next to the device but the contents did not ignite.

According to the the FBI, officials are seeking a "potential person of interest," described as a balding white male, about 40 years old.

"He may be driving a 2000 or older model dirty, white pick-up truck with paneling, a dark colored bed liner, open tailgate, and a missing or covered license plate," the FBI said in a statement said.

NAACP president: Organization remains "vigilant" after Colorado Springs blast

The explosion was heard near the building on the 600 block of South El Paso Street on the southern end of the city just before 11 a.m. Those nearby reported hearing a "loud boom."

"I was cutting somebody's hair and I heard the explosion," said Gene Southerland, the owner of Mr. G's Hair Design Studio in the same building. "It was such a loud explosion that some plastic containers fell off the shelf."

Henry Allen Jr., the NAACP chapter president, told The Gazette the explosion was strong enough to knock items off the walls and that volunteers who looked outside to see what happened saw what they described as a gas can rigged with some kind of incendiary device, such as a flare.

"We'll move on," Allen told the newspaper. "This won't deter us from doing the job we want to do in the community."

Photos from the scene showed evidence markers littering the area surrounding the building, local police and their police bomb squad maneuvering around yellow tape.

"The investigation is ongoing and it is not known at this time if the NAACP or a business in the vicinity was the intended target," said Amy Sanders, an FBI special agent.

Anyone with information about the explosive device should call the FBI tip line at (303) 435-7787



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It seems the world is full of a-holes of all types doing these things on a regular basis.

I say we don't ignore ANY of them.

Shut up Swish and pass that thang!

Does that mean me????

If you joined it would be the axis of evil.

It's too strong. Will put you on your ass.

What Muslim Scholars Say About Paris Attack

Muslim scholars responded quickly to the attack on the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo which killed 12 and injured 10. Slamming the incident as un-Islamic, scholars express anger towards the perpetrators who "betrayed and tainted" Islam rather than defended it. In addition to vehemently condemning the attack, the scholars' comments reflected a concern about the damage it causes to the image of Islam and Muslims.

Following is a collection of scholars' Facebook posts, comments and statement on the attack:

Dr. Tariq Ramadan: Betrayal to Islamic Values
Charlie Hebdo: NO! NO! NO!

Contrary to what was apparently said by the killers in the bombing of Charlie Hebdo's headquarters, it is not the Prophet who was avenged, it is our religion, our values and Islamic principles that have been betrayed and tainted. My condemnation is absolute and my anger is profound (healthy and a thousand times justified) against this horror!!!

Allow me to express my deep sympathy and sincere condolences to the families of the victims.


Dr. Khaled Hanafy: Condemnation Is Not Sufficient
I was shocked by the brutal, terror attack in Paris that killed 12 people. I categorically condemn this act no matter who is responsible for it and whoever the victims are.

Indeed, condemnation is not sufficient. Muslims, before anybody else, should take swift and practical action because the danger threatening Europe is a threat for Muslims too. Muslims are part and parcel of the European society; they have a role to play in protecting it and in promoting social peace in it.

It is not a valid excuse that this magazine published anti-Prophet cartoons. Insults were directed to the Prophet during his life and after his death; the Qur'an related such defamations and they will never stop. So, the appropriate response is through thought, art and opinion not murder or terror.

I hope that politicians and media will not use this incident to make wrong generalizations against Muslims. The overwhelming majority of Europe Muslims reject such wicked deeds; they did contribute to the building Europe's civilization.
I call on Muslims to stage demonstrations that denounce this aggression. I urge Muslim Imams and leaders to take all the necessary actions to denounce the incident, to reassure the Europe community, to actively participate in protecting Europe media institutions against any threat and to denounce extremism and terror.


Dr. Yasir Qadhi: All of Us Will Suffer
Loving the Prophet (salla Allah alayhi wa sallam) is a necessary requirement of Iman. Defending his honor is a sign of belief. This is done by following his teachings and practice, not by murdering in his name.

Our Prophet was verbally abused and physically harrased multiple times in Makkah. Never ONCE did any of the Companions go and murder those who did such deeds.

Do those who kill others in the name of the Prophet believe that they love him more than the companions?

And even for those who believe that the penalty for blasphemy should be death: by unanimous consensus of ALL the scholars of Islam, this must take place after a legitimate trial, by a qualified judge, appointed by a legitimate Islamic state. Under NO circumstances does Islam allow vigilante justice, for to open this door leads to chaos, confusion and bloodshed.

Muslims: get your act together!! Such acts of terror are not only haram and spill innocent blood, they will come back to harm you and your communities in the short and long run.

And as a result, all of us will suffer.


Dr. Wael Shihab: Perpetrators Should Be Held Accountable
In fact, Muslim communities all over the world share the pains and sadness with the victims’ families and friends. Our hearts bleed for their loss and pains.

The deadly attack on the Paris office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, which led to the killing and injuring of tens of innocents, is a horrible, barbaric crime that its perpetrators should be held accountable for it. Such crimes against humanity are not justified by Islam and all world religions and laws. Those criminals cannot be true believers of any faith.

Charlie Hebdo attacks are totally divorced from the teachings of Islam, its general spirit, and its sublime objectives. Islam protects people’s lives, properties, and honor. Attacking even a single human is regarded by Islam as grave and heinous as killing all innocent people of the world. The Qur’an reads, {Whosoever kills a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if be had killed all mankind, and whoso saves the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind.} (Al-Ma’idah 5: 32)
Hopefully, the French authorities will bring the criminals to justice as soon as possible.


Sheikh Omar Suleiman: An Insult to the Prophet
#‎ParisShooting What is more insulting to the Prophet (peace be upon him) than satirical cartoons are those who murder innocent people in his name.

“And We have sent you not (Oh Muhammad) but as a mercy to all the worlds” [Quran 21:107]

Just to confirm/showcase...

...you feel condemning Islam and its outdated insanity is an example of the "old Liberal Elitist attitude"?

Je Suis Charlie!

This is what happens when people don't have a sense of humor.

Nous sommes tous Charlie!

Just pointing out the Hypocrisy of your opening posts. Didn't expect you to grasp it.

And that hypocrisy would be what, exactly?

Could you point to an occasion where I've advocated restricting certain speech or make it illegal?

Or is that something you just made up because it sounded right in your head, and you let it out in a Blutarksy-esque ramble?

You do know what hypocrisy means, yes?

Ok, doesn't grasp it.

Try this one then...
You shall reap what you sow.

Good luck with that.

If somebody doesn't grasp what you're trying to say, it's always good to cite examples to illustrate your point.

So could you provide an example of where I advocated restricting certain speech or making it illegal, as a way to illustrate my hypocrisy on this matter?

Ok, lets just skip it then.

See, now it sounds less like an issue of me not being able to grasp what you're saying, and more like an instance where you just made something up, and are unable to support it with any evidence.

But, if you could, I'd rather we get that example from you, so I could better grasp my hypocrisy.

Or was I correct in the first place, and this was just some Blutarsky-like ramble that had no basis in fact?

I feel sorry for the innocent Police and Guards and their families who had to suffer this tragedy needlessly.

The Press is making a Free Speech issue of this whole event but in reality it was all about a man who felt he had the right to go nose to
nose with an out of control lion and insult it. He certainly had that
right, just too bad it cost the lives of the innocent in the process.

When a person or group of people is killed because of something they said in the press, it tends to be framed as a free speech issue.

Not what I said.
The practice of quoting out of context, sometimes referred to as "contextomy", is an informal fallacy and a type of false attribution in which a passage is removed from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning.[1] Contextomies are stereotypically intentional, but may also occur accidentally if someone misinterprets the meaning and omits something essential to clarifying it, thinking it non-essential.d.

Nothing intelligent to say? Try saying nothing at all.

Still waiting for an example of my hypocrisy.

You had called it 'good old' which generally signifies prevalence, and the manner in which you described my inability to 'grasp' it carried a tone that insinuated obviousness. So surely a citation or example to back your allegation shouldn't be too hard, yes?

I don't think you grasp condescension. It doesn't really work unless you can back what you're saying with a reasoned argument. If you just bark nonsense and duck with your tail between your legs when questioned, you end up looking like a fool, not the person you intend to make look foolish.

Agreed. What they did was very brave. And I commend them for it.

And the fact that some people would kill them for it is ridiculous. I don't really care what Muslim scholars have to say, Muslims need to start policing themselves, rather than distancing themselves from those people.

They do this in the name of their religion, there's no real central body to criticize it, and it damages their reputation in front of the world. There needs to be a movement, within Islam, against this ideology.

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Just to add, here's a link to the cartoons that these people were killed over. Kudos to the Huffington Post for putting this out there

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/07..._n_6429552.html

Look, I posted my opinion, you read it and you didn't grasp what I said. You read it again and you still don't see the Hypocrisy in your original posts. What more can I do but come over there and draw it for you with crayons. Sheez!

I haven't been able to grasp what you've said because you've shown no evidence to back your assertion.

If you had given an explanation, or backed your assertion with evidence or examples, then you would have room to condescend about my inability to understand your opinion.

But what you've done here is just blurt out some made up nonsense, and when unable to back it up, merely acted as if you'd made a valid point that is evident, but I lack the intellect to understand what you're saying.

And that certainly isn't the case. So, please, back your assertion like a man or run away with your tail between your legs. Don't keep responding and making yourself look even worse.

Can you provide an example to illustrate or back your assertion that I'm a hypocrite on the issue of free speech?

You can't accuse someone of being incapable of understanding what you're saying if you refuse to explain it.

Ok,OK! You win. Nuff said. Yours is the Greater.

Phew, some day I will need that breath I just wasted.

Thank you.

In the future, I would recommend refraining from just making things up in an attempt to discredit someone you don't like. It's a trait of the simple-minded.

Why point out the obvious?

Did you see who I was conversing with?

J/c I was just in Paris 10 days ago. From what I see, it looks like this happened about 2 blocks from my hotel.

Carry on with the discourse.

So none of you three guys understood what I was saying when I said...

HA! The good old Liberal Elitist attitude.

To use your free speech to insult the Black race by calling them certain names, to use your free speech to insult Homosexuals by calling them
certain names, these things are evil and can be considered hate crimes.

But to use your free speech to insult a group of people and the
religion they hold dear, this is a Noble endeavor.


You goofs can't see the Hypocrisy in this abuse of free speech?