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Even though polls this early are stupid I don't see how tOSU isn't ranked number 1 other than the fact it is ESPN doing the poll.


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First off...... This team was a team of destiny. I said it a few weeks ago and truly believed it!! They had the same "feel" as the 2002 team. For some reason, you just knew it. I think I sobbed a bit last night. lol.

That said, I've been reading different articles all day about the team and Urban Myer. In the discussion/comment forum, there were several people saying that the National Championship should have been 'Bama and FSU. Really????? So, the two teams that lost in the first round really deserved to play against each other for all the marbles? SMDH

People still can't admit that OSU is an elite program and elite team. And, I wonder if Mark May was the one that started the ESPN poll. rofl I hope we get to play TCU next year and run them out of the stadium....


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Just amazing to think he at one point had Leak / Tebow / Newton. I remember some people saying Urban wouldn't win a title here after we lost to Clemson. Next year is going to just as fun, buckle up guys. naughtydevil

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Originally Posted By: columbusdawg
Even though polls this early are stupid I don't see how tOSU isn't ranked number 1 other than the fact it is ESPN doing the poll.


ESPN likes trolling the public. So, saying TCU is #1 lends to the arguments about how they could have been apart of the first playoff through the silly logic that a team cannot drop when they win despite playing a poor team compared to other teams playing very good teams (small bump to their resume, big bump to opponent resumes).

Also, notice the SEC teams ranked #8 as the highest team. Another troll job here though done deceptively. Get the SEC fans up in arms about the lack of respect, while also putting some likely undeserving SEC teams in the bottom of the top25 (hey, look Mizzou just beat a top25 Tenn team, they must be good?).

ESPN is king of the trolls. Much respect to them for it.


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So proud of OSU! National Champs! A win for Ohio State University, the state of Ohio, the fans of Ohio and the Big Ten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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*Arkansas and Tenn both ranked. I guess you could pick 1 to be a surprise team, but picking both is pretty ridiculous.


Arkansas was a completely different team the last month of the season + bowl and Tennessee's fresh and soph classes this year were nuts. They look real good going forward I think.

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Just amazing to think he at one point had Leak / Tebow / Newton. I remember some people saying Urban wouldn't win a title here after we lost to Clemson. Next year is going to just as fun, buckle up guys. naughtydevil


The one thing I thought was pretty amazing was how these kids, who are all still so young, and so early into their college careers, were very happy and thrilled with winning it all, but there seemed to be a consistent talk about being back. Meyer said it while receiving the trophy. I heard it from Elliot and Jones as well. They seem hungry. This year was historic. Next year could be legendary.

It will be much harder next year. Desperation is a great weapon in sports. Now that you got one, how hungry are you for a another? We saw it this year with FSU. They just didn't have that angle during the year. Getting to where they got was amazing, but they dodged so many bullets, an benefited from playing a pretty weak schedule.

They are absolutely the favorites next year. Most of this team coming back, with the possibility of choosing from 3 QB's (I still think Miller is gone)? It's a no brainer that they will come in ranked in the AP poll next July/August at #1. Don't look at ESPN's dumb ratings. They swung and missed on OSU all year.

Funny that Mark May was nowhere to be found last night. How dumb does that guy look right now. Seriously, guy, do your job and stop letting emotion get in the way. I've never seen someone in that line of work have such a vendetta against one team or a player. It's borderline ridiculous. Why do they put up with him? He doesn't push the needle. College football fans watch college football shows regardless. It's not like his idiotic way of doing his job brings in viewers.

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What was the score of the Oregon-FSU game.

How much time was on the clock when Oregon started kneeling down?

All it takes is one weird play, one big play and all of a sudden we are one score away from losing.


Oregon was up 45-20 in the 4th quarter and scored 2 more touchdowns.


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Originally Posted By: Spergon FTWynn

I've never seen someone in that line of work have such a vendetta against one team or a player.

Do you remember Trev Alberts? He is the white version of Mark May and they actually hosted a show together. He absolutely HATED Ohio State and insisted that Nebraska/Oklahoma were far superior to anything the Big Ten had to offer. My lord, that guy was just as painful to listen to as May. I'm glad they have shove their big fat foot in their idiotic mouth. thumbsup


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My Favorite Part of the game

What does everyone think about the final TD? Most others outside of Columbus/tOSU territory think it was classless.


You mean the same Oregon team that ran the score up on everyone else they played?

It was only a 2-score game and the right call. Why risk getting a FG blocked/returned? The safe route was to keep pounding it on the ground.

It's not like they were passing down field to get points or going for 2 after a meaningless TD.




If Oregon had done it you guys would of called it classless.

You guys sound like Steelers fans after an illegal hit "That's just Steelers football"

This and now how we should apparently draft Cardale Jones in the 2nd round..

You guys are a trip..
Oh shut up with your sour grapes, Michigan fan. One day your program may return to relevance. Oregon was still firing off the ball and going for a T.O. We handed the freaking ball off, its not like we were running a reverse.


You could look at it two ways, either we're piling on, or we're getting some cushion.

On a team like the ducks, I get some cushion and they should consider it a sign of respect.


Up 15 and Oregon was using their TO's? Sorry, but I'm running my offense and getting 7.

It's not classless. Any kind of fumbled play and it's a one posession game with a chance at an onside kick. This isn't rocket science.

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I know it's not a written rule, so to speak, but it should be an unwritten rule: If anyone throws up a white flag, the losing team should do it first. Unless and until a team concedes defeat, you need to assume they are coming after you.

Granted, in say a 59-0 rout, that may change.

But, this was the national championship game. It wasn't OSU vs. Youngstown St.

It was a team that so, so many said "Oh, they play in the Big 10, it's a weak conference."

It was a team that so, so many said "didn't deserve to even make the playoffs."

It was a team playing the highly favored Ducks - with their "high power" offense.

Add to that, kicking a field goal would've been seen as worse. AND, many would say taking a knee would've been condescending as well.

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Add to that, kicking a field goal would've been seen as worse. AND, many would say taking a knee would've been condescending as well.


There never was a field goal to kick. OSU drew the team offsides. Going for it would have been the right move anyway...

You never kick a field goal in that situation. You pull your players off the field and put guys who don't play much on it, to run a play that at that level, can create more turnover opportunities for another team? Nah, run the play, if you fail, you're up 15, and they have 90 plus yards to go.

Anyone who thinks that is classless is just reaching. Not to mention, even in a situation where it was classless, it's against a team that always piles it on.

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It's the national championship against the number two team in the nation.... You finish the game!! This isn't San Jose state you're going up against...


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My Favorite Part of the game

What does everyone think about the final TD? Most others outside of Columbus/tOSU territory think it was classless.


You mean the same Oregon team that ran the score up on everyone else they played?

It was only a 2-score game and the right call. Why risk getting a FG blocked/returned? The safe route was to keep pounding it on the ground.

It's not like they were passing down field to get points or going for 2 after a meaningless TD.




If Oregon had done it you guys would of called it classless.

You guys sound like Steelers fans after an illegal hit "That's just Steelers football"

This and now how we should apparently draft Cardale Jones in the 2nd round..

You guys are a trip..
Oh shut up with your sour grapes, Michigan fan. One day your program may return to relevance. Oregon was still firing off the ball and going for a T.O. We handed the freaking ball off, its not like we were running a reverse.


You could look at it two ways, either we're piling on, or we're getting some cushion.

On a team like the ducks, I get some cushion and they should consider it a sign of respect.


Up 15 and Oregon was using their TO's? Sorry, but I'm running my offense and getting 7.

It's not classless. Any kind of fumbled play and it's a one posession game with a chance at an onside kick. This isn't rocket science.


That's what I'm saying. The Ducks should feel that their abilities as a team were respected. Hell, on one of those turnovers they scored a 70yd touchdown on the first play of that possession. Hence the 'cushion'.

And like Bill Belicheck said, 'It's not my job to stop my offense, it's yours'.


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Anyone else watch the replay with the coaches today? They had the MSU, Vandy, Nebraska, and Pitt coaches along with Spielman and an ESPN guy. The game was on as they talked about it, pretty insightful. I couldn't tune away, watched the game again this way today.

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Even though polls this early are stupid I don't see how tOSU isn't ranked number 1 other than the fact it is ESPN doing the poll.


ESPN likes trolling the public. So, saying TCU is #1 lends to the arguments about how they could have been apart of the first playoff through the silly logic that a team cannot drop when they win despite playing a poor team compared to other teams playing very good teams (small bump to their resume, big bump to opponent resumes).

Also, notice the SEC teams ranked #8 as the highest team. Another troll job here though done deceptively. Get the SEC fans up in arms about the lack of respect, while also putting some likely undeserving SEC teams in the bottom of the top25 (hey, look Mizzou just beat a top25 Tenn team, they must be good?).

ESPN is king of the trolls. Much respect to them for it.


Here is the funny thing ... we only have something like 20 Seniors on this team. (I heard that number on the radio, I have not counted them though) This is a really young team, and there is some huge talent waiting for their chance to show their wares.

This team was also built while Meyer contended with restrictions on scholarships from the NCAA. Next year, those restrictions (finally) go away completely. OSU finally gets back to a total of 85 scholarship players, instead of 82 as in the past few years.

With not 1, not 2, but 3 QB who can all win games, and as defending National Champions, opening at anything except #1 is ridiculous.


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Anyone else watch the replay with the coaches today? They had the MSU, Vandy, Nebraska, and Pitt coaches along with Spielman and an ESPN guy. The game was on as they talked about it, pretty insightful. I couldn't tune away, watched the game again this way today.


Yes watched it tonight, was really interesting to see the different views from the 4 coaches and Spielman.

On the posts above me, every one of the coaches said the same thing, if the Ducks are going to use their TO's then keep running it. On the 4th and short, only one said he would kick the field goal and I think that was Riley from Neb. The others said they go for the 1st down/TD.

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As scary good as our offense is, look at these recruiting classes and notice a theme. A LOT of very highly ranked defensive players.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/school/_/id/194/class/2014

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/school/_/id/194/class/2015

Defense might be as good as the offense if you can imagine that.

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The Big Ten Championship, the Alabama game, and National Championship game were some of the most rewarding football I have ever witnessed as a fan.

I am so proud of the team. I am so glad to shut all the idiots up about how terrible the Big 10 is and how Ohio State doesn't deserve to get in. I am so glad to prove that we are as strong and as fast as any team in the country. I am thankful to have Urban as our HC. The guy really, really gets it.

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I was out at several stores today... and the OSU Championship Shirts and hoodies we're out.. It was unbelievable the people buying them..

When I was checking out at Dick's Sporting goods the lady at the register told me I was the first person she saw not wearing or buying a OSU sweatshirt..

I told her I had my big nut boxers on ..

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I am so glad to shut all the idiots up about how terrible the Big 10 is and how Ohio State doesn't deserve to get in.


I heard this from Mike&Mike, PTI, Highly Questionable, and a few other media sources...but had they lost, I don't think that means they didn't deserve the #4 spot. It would have meant Bama or Oregon were better teams and based on the rankings, they were supposed to be better.

For example, Oregon beating the tar out of FSU didn't prove to me they didn't deserve the #3 spot. An undefeated defending national champion with their returning Heisman winning QB "deserves" at least the #3 spot. I watched the whole game, FSU fumbled the ball a lot in the 3rd quarter and Oregon turned all those turnovers into points. A few bounces in favorable way, myabe FSU only loses by 7-14 or even wins. That 3rd quarter killed their spirits.

Based on the resumes we had at the time, the right four teams were selected. I don't think Baylor's loss or TCU's win meant the decision on the 4 teams was wrong.

Heck, if 4 more weeks were played, we would probably have 3-4 different teams in the final four.


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I just hope Urban is good enough to win Big 10 coach of the year next year. tongue

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I just hope Urban is good enough to win Big 10 coach of the year next year. tongue


I dunno. Harbaugh is now up north .... and if he wins 6 games ....... wink


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I hope that in the years ahead our fanbase realizes that the days of us winning 21-7 type of games are over. The offense is going to score a crap ton of points. So the defense is going to be on the field a lot and give up points as result. However, the Oregon game showed that they could "lock it down" when they absolutely had to. There will always be games like Michigan State and Clemson last year. However, the system proved that it works, even if it's very frustrating at times.

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Down here around Nashville way a lot of people are saying how proud I must be of my Buckeyes. In response I tell them that I'm also a Browns fan so everything kind of evens out.


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Looks like Cardale Jones is staying one more year too. Let the QB competition begin! Who transfers and who starts?

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Well, JT won't be ready by spring practice and from what was said on Drennan Miller may not be either. Cardale can solidify his spot at that point and it appears it will be his job to keep.


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Braxton definitely won't be ready by spring as he had a 9-12 month timeline. If he goes the full 12, then he's going to miss August 2-a-days too.


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Braxton definitely won't be ready by spring as he had a 9-12 month timeline. If he goes the full 12, then he's going to miss August 2-a-days too.


Sounds like they're going to roll with Cardale as the starter. Perhaps they may seek a medical redshirt for the other two, or at least one of them?

Getting a solid reassurance from Urban is the only reason I can think of that he'd stay at OSU - I think he's gotten that.


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Start Cardale Next year, let him win a Heisman.

He leaves.

Start JT the year, or next two years, after that, He can win a few Heismans..

He leaves.

Continue recruiting actual QBs, and not RBs that play QB..


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Disagree, Urban works best when he has both a real QB and a RB-playing-QB that he can utilize together.


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Disagree, Urban works best when he has both a real QB and a RB-playing-QB that he can utilize together.


Yeah, but don't have the RB/QB be your starter.

Marshal was a QB in HS, and played some gadget stuff, like Spencer.. But JT/Jones were the QBs..


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Disagree, Urban works best when he has both a real QB and a RB-playing-QB that he can utilize together.


Yeah, but don't have the RB/QB be your starter.

Marshal was a QB in HS, and played some gadget stuff, like Spencer.. But JT/Jones were the QBs..


true. though Pryor and Braxton did just fine as starters (and they are much closer to the RB-first type of guys). I am with you in that I prefer the QBs to be QB-first w/ the ability to run if necessary.

Bucks don't have to worry about it for awhile though. I fully expect Braxton to transfer and Cardale and JT are both QB-first guys.


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I just hope Urban is good enough to win Big 10 coach of the year next year. tongue


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I just hope Urban is good enough to win Big 10 coach of the year next year. tongue


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