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We hear about them asking for permission to talk to people.. but does anyone know if they have actually talked to anyone ?


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Maybe they should ask for permission to interview Jason Garrett?


As he's walking into Jerry Jones office to sign his 5 year Extension...

Hey Jerry can the Browns Interview Jason ? Jerry " well what do you think Jason ? "

Jason " Jerry hurry the hell up and get your pen out..I have dotted lines to sign"

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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Maybe they should ask for permission to interview Jason Garrett?


I know you are joking, but we did ask for permission to interview Scott Linehan and Bill Callahan.

I would love Linehan, Callahan is about as bad as Chan Gailey.


Callahan fits more what Farmer/Pettine want in an offense. Callahan is huge on ZBS and big believer you can win without a super star QB. Linehan is more a traditional passing attack guru. Linehan is more in line with Norv Turner.

I am more a fan for Callahan. I simply like how he builds the offense around the OL. If Haslam can figure out a way to hire Linehan as the QB coach and Callahan as the OC, I think Browns would be set for a long time, but that is a pipe dream.

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Linehan showed this season that he was willing to run the ball hard. I like that he adapted to his team.

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Thanks for the quick read. That's informative, I like the parts that indicate the style of offense that these guys tend to run. From the article:

Style of offense: Tailors offense to the talent he has using west coast and zone blocking concepts. Raiders led the NFL in rushing in 2000 under Callahan and then led the league in passing in 2002. He’s widely known as an offensive line guru.

That's the write up for Callahan.. adding in the fact that he's got HC experience and is the OC and OL coach for Dallas.. who really had a nice offense this year with Murray and Romo

Right now, I'd say he's my favorite


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I am impressed with the guys we are looking at other than Lynn, just dont think he has the experience although might be a really good run coordinator.

Not a huge fan of Gailey but he took Stevie Johnson and Ryan Fitzpatrick and lit it up and who can argue with the results of Jackson and Spiller.

Still hope for Al Saunders who I consider a genius but this is a solid freaking list.

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If the Browns only win 4 or 5 games next season, Pettine is likely gone and every veteran on the team will want out, knowing that their is no upside to staying in Cleveland as they start over, once again.


...and that would be the last straw for me. Haslam preaches continuity. He hired his head coach. If he can't stick with Pettine for more then two years then i'm done with them. I don't care if we go 1-15 next year, Haslam can not fire Pettine. It would bring a new meaning to dysfunctional franchise.

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Callahan fits more what Farmer/Pettine want in an offense. Callahan is huge on ZBS and big believer you can win without a super star QB. Linehan is more a traditional passing attack guru. Linehan is more in line with Norv Turner.

I am more a fan for Callahan. I simply like how he builds the offense around the OL. If Haslam can figure out a way to hire Linehan as the QB coach and Callahan as the OC, I think Browns would be set for a long time, but that is a pipe dream.


i'd be happy with Callahan as OC and bring in DeFilipo as the QB coach. I think that would be two solid hires.

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Callahan hasn't those Raider teams were Gruden's teams. He was the one calling the plays. Callahan essentially got fired from the Cowboys last season, they just wouldn't let him leave. I want nothing to do with him.

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DeFilipo is my #1 guy among the guys who have been mentioned. I would hope he would be able to bring some fresh ideas.

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People wonder why we would look at Gailey, well, he runs a spread style offense, and that, not the read option, is what Manziel ran in college. I don't know if I want him, but I do see the logic in looking at him. (even though it appears that he is heading to NY)

I really hope we manage to get John DeFilippio for either OC or QB coach. I really like what he did with Carr this past year.

I like any of Cavanaugh, Callahan and Linehan. Any of these guys would be a quality hire.

Weis is a big name. He fits, but I don't know if he is the best fit.

Saunders is definitely an offensive guru, but the sheer size of his playbook is a concern for a young QB who struggled with a lot of complicated reads and play calls.

I do not want Trestman, even if all of the rest are gone. He has never impressed me. I have gone into the reasons for feeling this way previously, and don't seed to fill up this thread here repeating myself.

I don't really know a lot about Lynn. He has been a RB coach .... but I don't know if I want a rookie designing an offense for a struggling rookie QB.

It appears that Gailety is out. I would be fine with any of DeFilippio, Cavanaugh, Callahgan, and/or Linehan.

Weis is OK, but not my top choice. Saunders is OK, but I really don't want Trestman or Lynn as our OC.


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Any talk in Cleveland about the Browns going after Callahan as OC and hard after Trestman as QB coach? I've heard that is where they were at Tuesday afternoon.


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I find it interesting Lynn was promoted to assistant head coach in 2012 and has been able to keep his job there in NY since 2009. He must be doing something right.

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Originally Posted By: clevesteve
I find it interesting Lynn was promoted to assistant head coach in 2012 and has been able to keep his job there in NY since 2009. He must be doing something right.


Wasn't Lynn Browns running back coach in '06 under OC Carthon or '07 under Chud? I'm thinking '07. Browns Jamel Lewis was the first back in a long time to break a 1000 yards in a season.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Gailey

Ian Rapaport reported yesterday Gailey is to be Jets' OC.

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Originally Posted By: clevesteve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Gailey

Ian Rapaport reported yesterday Gailey is to be Jets' OC.


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Trestman interviewing today

I expect, "What can you do to help Johnny Manziel?" is among the most important questions he will be answering.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Trestman interviewing today

I expect, "What can you do to help Johnny Manziel?" is among the most important questions he will be answering.


If the candidate really wants the job, he is going to tell the boss exactly what he wants to hear.


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If we hire Trestman I would expect Cavanaugh or Kromer as the QB coach.

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??? to anyone.
When is the Saunders interview and is it a joint interview with DeFillipo as a OC/QB coach combo?

I expect an OC who is THE GUY they want - not to leave without a contract in hand. If we interview and let them go without signing him, then we can assume he is not "THE GUY" we are hoping for or #1 on our list. Just my presumption.



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Here is a new one:

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Browns have internal OC candidate: TE coach Brian Angelichio. He'll interview for job, a source confirmed.


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Prior to joining Tampa Bay, Angelichio coached the tight ends at Rutgers (2011) and spent five seasons at the University of Pittsburgh (2006-10). While at Pitt., he coached a pair of all-conference players, 2010 NFL Draft choices Nate Byham and Dorin Dickerson.

Angelichio started his career in 1995 as the secondary coach at SUNY-Brockport, and then spent 10 seasons at Ithaca College, where he coached linebackers (1996-97), receivers (1998) and the offensive line (1999) before serving as offensive coordinator/offensive line coach (2000-05). While with the Bombers, Angelichio tutored seven All-Americans, helping the team advance to the postseason in seven of his 10 years. While in charge of the offense, he led a unit that set or tied 30 team or individual records over his final five seasons.

A native of Ilion, N.Y., Angelichio was a three-year starter at outside linebacker at St. Lawrence, where he earned a bachelor’s degree in physical education. He was also team captain and a four-year starter on the baseball team. He received a master’s degree from Ithaca.

Brian Angelichio’s Coaching Background:
1995 State University of New York at Brockport, secondary coach
1996-97 Ithaca College, linebackers coach
1998 Ithaca College, receivers coach
1999 Ithaca College, offensive line coach
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2006 University of Pittsburgh, offensive assistant/tight ends coach
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Chan Gailey interviewed with #Browns all day Tuesday. Moot point because he's headed to NYJ -- got the call while in CLE.


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When is the Saunders interview and is it a joint interview with DeFillipo as a OC/QB coach combo?


There has been no interview announced for Saunders, we have only been "interested" in him. The only guys we have interviewed or will interview so far are Gailey (interviewed by us on 1/13, hired by the Jets), Trestman (interviewing 1/14), Lynn (interviewing 1/15), Angelichio (going to be interviewed, and DeFilippo (sometime this week).

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While I love the idea of an "up and comer"

Angelichio hasn't called plays for 10 years, and that was at a small school..

Risky.

What I would like about an in house hire, is the possibility of keeping the system in tact, and just having a different person call plays..


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That's part of the risk. We don't know if Angelichio and DeFilippo can call plays. But how can anyone know until they take the leap and give them a chance? Everyone needs their first shot. At least Pettine has an idea of what kind of worker and coach Angelichio is as he has been on his staff for a year.

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While I love the idea of an "up and comer"

Angelichio hasn't called plays for 10 years, and that was at a small school..

Risky.

What I would like about an in house hire, is the possibility of keeping the system in tact, and just having a different person call plays..


Even the best at calling plays had to start somewhere. They have to have growing pains.

I for one would rather not be someones training ground but then, maybe it's balanced out with keeping the system intact.. Not sure.


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Calling plays isn't as hard as you think. The trick is executing plays. That is the 95% of an OC's task - game day again its not that difficult. You call plays that give them the best chance to execute.

Like a run with 6-7 in the box. Pass with 8 or more. A play that has 3 options for the QB - Usually one pass and 2 runs or 1 run and two passes.

Teaching to execute - running routes with Man or Zone. Many mnay variables to being a good OC. Calling the play really is not that hard. Just don't call stupid plays. Like a screen pass when you are inside your 5. Just stay away from Dumb calls. Most the rest has to do with how well you coached the O to execute these plays called.

I don't think Manziel is a big criteria to our decision. Possibly the ability to teach ANY YOUNG QB is very high cause if not Manziel we got to keep picking them.

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As of now ..Here's the 9 names and a little resume...


Of those nine, not really any of them stick out and that's including reading their little "resume" section/snippets. At this point in time, factoring the whole Brian won't be back and JF is just a moron debate/aspect - who is the best run-first play caller? rofl

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#Browns expected to interview #Bills assistant Jim Hostler late this week, according to source.


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I know next to nothing about this guy other than what I read on his Wikipedia page and a quick Google search. I don't want anything to do with him after reading those few things.

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He was the OC in Mike Nolan's last year at SF. Not pretty stats (22nd passing, 31st rushing, 25th overall), but I know nothing about him.

This is an article from last Feb:

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So the Cowboys have retained Scott Linehan..

I didn't realize this.. But this season he called plays but was titled their "Passing Game Coordinator"

Callahan, who we are looking into, called the plays the previous year, was still the "Offensive Coordinator" while being the O Line coach..

And also Jason Garrett helped.

That's confusing.


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Meanwhile Monte Kiffin was wondering around Texas looking for his marbles.

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So the Cowboys have retained Scott Linehan..

I didn't realize this.. But this season he called plays but was titled their "Passing Game Coordinator"

Callahan, who we are looking into, called the plays the previous year, was still the "Offensive Coordinator" while being the O Line coach..

And also Jason Garrett helped.

That's confusing.


Scott Linehan was a very qualified candidate for OC, that the Browns should have been considering...until he was signed to an extension by Jerry Jones.

It was a smart move by the Boys, insuring "continuity" in case Callahan leaves.

Callahan is one of the names said to be under consideration for the Browns OC position. Pettine and Callahan worked together for 3 yrs, while with the Jets.

IMO, the Browns should do what the Cowboys have done, create a new coaching position called "Passing Game Coordinator" and fill that position with an understudy to the OC. That way, if the OC leaves, the Browns retain continuity by sliding the PGC up to OC.

The Passing Game Coordinator likely carries a higher salary than a position coach, which is another factor to promote continuity.

There is another name the Browns might be considering for OC..John DeFilippo, QB coach for the Raiders. The problem with DeFilippo, he has never been an offensive coordinator. But DeFilippo would be a prime candidate to fill a Passing Game Coordinator position.

DeFilippo is from Youngstown and coached the Jets QBs in 2009, when Pettine was the Jets DC.

If the Browns hired both Callahan and DeFlippo, it would go a long way toward establishing offensive continuity.

Creating an additional higher paying position such as PGC might help to solve the problem the Browns now find themselves in...the OC leaves and with him goes the Offense.


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Callahan was the OC last year and did such a poor job calling plays that they brought in Linehan to do it this year.

What's confusing is why they didn't just fire Callahan.

Also, one of the reasons I don't want Callahan as our OC.


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Must be nice to build strong within so a team can promote from within and not need to consider any of these names that frequently float around this time of the year. IE: Steelers and Butler.


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If Marc Trestman can help the Browns plow through the AFC North the way he did in 2013, Mike Pettine might be on to something.
Trestman looms as the most qualified candidate being interviewed for Cleveland’s offensive coordinator opening.
His NFL résumé dates to the 1980s when he was Bernie Kosar’s position coach and coordinator in Cleveland. He is viewed as an innovator who would embrace making the best of Johnny Manziel or whomever. If hired, he would help drive the debate on what to do with the position.
He has been a head coach the last eight years, six with the Montreal Alouettes (CFL Gray Cup titles in 2009 and 2010), the last two with the Chicago Bears.
He interviewed for the Browns head coach opening in 2013 but was hired by Chicago. The Bears went 4-0 against the AFC North under him in ‘13.
He was fired as head coach after the 2014 season fell apart but is still regarded as a top-flight coordinator and manager of quarterbacks. He was a college QB, playing behind Tony Dungy at Minnesota.
Trestman was talking to Ohio writers a year ago when he said:
“Timing is everything with quarterbacks. They have their time where they're surrounded with their best resources of players and coaches and it kind of all ties together. All of a sudden, things start to happen.”
He was Kosar’s position coach with the Miami Hurricanes in 1983 and ‘84. He originally went to Miami as a law-school student, passing the bar but opting for a coaching career.
In 1988, he rejoined Kosar with the Browns as QBs coach/coordinator.
“I probably learned as much from Bernie as any quarterback I ever coached,” Trestman said. “He was certainly as smart and as courageous as any player I’ve ever been around.
“Being in Cleveland,” Trestman added, “was one of my favorite experiences. I have really great memories of the old stadium, driving in, the bonfires, the weather.
“I met my wife there.”
Marc and Cindy Trestman recently celebrated their 25th wedding anniversary. Thursday marks his 59th birthday.
Kosar’s recent sharp criticisms of the Browns are a potential issue in Trestman’s candidacy, but it’s not as if they are joined at the hip. They last worked together in 1989, the last year the Browns reached an AFC title game.
Trestman since worked for the Vikings, 49ers, Lions, Cardinals, Raiders and Dolphins en route to being a head coach.
He was hired as Jon Gruden’s quarterbacks coach in Oakland in 2001. Then, after Gruden bolted to Tampa Bay in ‘02, he was promoted to coordinator, with coordinator Bill Callahan succeeding Gruden. Trestman helped Rich Gannon become the 2002 NFL MVP and was in that season’s Super Bowl.


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Someone tell me again why Trestman would be a bad hire for the Browns?


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