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The Browns have a pretty impressive run of five offensive coordinators in as many years.
And now they have a sixth candidate, in hopes of a longer run.
According to Alex Marvez of FOX Sports, the Browns are hiring Raiders quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo to be their next coordinator.
DeFilippo has also had stints with the Jets (where he worked with Browns head coach Mike Pettine) and Giants, and was given some degree of credit for the play of rookie quarterback Derek Carr this year.
A native of Youngstown, Ohio, he also has the kind of rust belt roots that Browns fans go all nutty for. (That worked so well when they hired hometown hero Rob Chudzinski as head coach.)
The Browns interviewed a load of candidates with a variety of backgrounds, but settled on another young up-and-comer.
I like getting an up and comer, and he did a good job with Carr, so hopefully he can work magic on Manziel or whomever is our next QB.
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from the raiders?
me thinks our offense is gonna go back to the glory days of....scoring 15 points a game.
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yep worst choice theycould have made...
once they missed out on Musgrave, Olson and Trestman they panicked.
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If he's familiar with Pettine and they'll be on the same page, that will help. Ultimately, if we have the talent to run their offense, we'll be fine.
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Well, it's not even confirmed yet and the boo birds are out in full force LOL
I don't really know much about the guy other than it was reported that Pettine wanted him last year (I've got no confirmation on that). Not sure why we didn't get him.
Anyway, he's got his work cut out for him. Not sure who he has at QB other than JM, and that may or may not be a mess. Not sure Hoyer will be back. No real prospects that we can get hold of a QB in the draft that will make anyone forget about Hoyer.
Small WR's except for a guy with issues. An Oline that has some VERY good pieces but still has depth issues.
What he does have is that those small WR's did a decent job and we all know what Gordon is capable of if his head in on straight. We know the line can be good when healthy and our RB's are looking good.
Some positives some negatives. Not sure which outweighs the other. But not knowing who or what you have at QB probably trumps all.
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An article about the guy: John DeFilippo compared to Adam Gase NEW YORK -- Broncos quarterbacks coach Greg Knapp, who oversaw Browns offensive coordinator candidate John DeFilippo for three years in Oakland, compared the young Raiders quarterbacks coach to another one of his associates the Browns sought to hire this year: Broncos offensive coordinator Adam Gase. "Don't let his age (35) fool you,'' Knapp told cleveland.com at the Super Bowl media availability Wednesday. "He's like Adam Gase. He's got great knowledge and a great future ahead of him.'' Former Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who has six years' experience as a coordinator, met with the Browns on Wednesday, and DeFilippo, who's never been a coordinator in the NFL, will interview with them Thursday. When Knapp was Raiders offensive coordinator in 2007-08, DeFilippo had the unenviable task of coaching troubled No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell, who flopped in the pros. It was later learned that Russell had tested positive for codeine even before the Raiders made him the top pick and gave him a $68 million contract, including $31.5 million guaranteed. Russell went 0-1 as a rookie and 5-10 in 2008, but Knapp saw tremendous potential in DeFilippo -- a Youngstown native -- right from the start. "When I was coordinator in Oakland, I said to him, 'You're the quarterback coach, and it's your job to coach me out of the room,' '' recalled Knapp. "He did that in a half a year's time -- and that was seven years ago, when he was really young.'' After the 2008 season, DeFilippo left Oakland to take over as quarterbacks coach of San Jose State, and earned the added duties of offensive coordinator in 2010. In his first year as coordinator, the Spartans jumped 32 places nationally in total offense from the previous year. When Knapp returned to Oakland as coordinator in 2012, he brought DeFilippo back with him. That year, he coached Carson Palmer for most of the season and then former Buckeye Terrelle Pryor for the final game after Palmer was lost to a rib injury. In 2013, Pryor started nine games and won three after expected starter Matt Flynn flopped. "He did a great job last year developing Terrelle Pryor during the offseason and he spent a lot of extra time talking to him about mechanics, on the field and in the classroom with him,'' said Knapp. "John has that work ethic that you want as a coach in the NFL, and certainly as a play caller.'' DeFilippo was also forced to start undrafted rookie Matt McGloin for seven games last season after a concussion rendered Pryor ineffective. McGloin went 1-5, but largely because of the Raiders' below-average defense, which finished 28th against the pass. McGloin threw for eight touchdowns, eight interceptions and a 76.1 rating. "The quarterbacks really like John,'' said Knapp. "He's very personable, and it's important to him that he has a relationship with the players, not just as a coach but a person-to-person relationship.'' Knapp cited DeFilippo's football pedigree as his primary asset. His father, Gene DeFilippo was a former graduate assistant at the University of Tennessee, then coached offense at Youngstown State and Vanderbilt. The elder DeFilippo went on to become athletic director at Boston College, where he spent 15 years before retiring in 2012. "John's been around football all of his life,'' said Knapp. "He's the son of a coach/AD, and he's a bright, young coach who has great knowledge of the game.'' DeFilippo also played quarterback at James Madison University and interviewed for their head coaching vacancy this offseason. On the college level, DeFilippo coached quarterbacks at Fordham in 2000. He then went on to Notre Dame as a graduate assistant under Bob Davie in 2001 and Ty Willingham in 2002. He helped lead the Irish to an 8-0 start in 2002, with wins over No. 7 Michigan and No. 11 Florida State, and a Gator Bowl berth. DeFilippo’s NFL coaching career began with the New York Giants in 2005, when he served as offensive quality-control coach on Tom Coughlin’s staff for two years. He helped the Giants to two postseason appearances, and New York posted a 19-13 regular-season record during his time there. In 2009, as assistant quarterbacks coach for the Jets, he helped tutor rookie QB Mark Sanchez, who led the Jets to the AFC Championship in his first season as a pro. Browns coach Mike Pettine was Jets defensive coordinator at the time. "John's worked under a lot of good coaches, including Tom Coughlin,'' said Knapp. "He's been on enough offensive staffs and gameplanned with enough experienced coordinators that he has a good feel what it takes to help develop a gameplan and to execute it.'' Knapp said he has no doubt that DeFilippo is ready to call plays at the pro level. "I have the utmost confidence in him,'' he said. "He'd take charge in the classroom, and you'd see it on the field as well.'' www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/01/browns_oc_candidate_john_defil.html
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j/c Hmmm, Cleveland landed the name that originally came out when the search began. And this little nugget.... John DeFilippo worked with Mark Sanchez in his rookie season in New York....hmmmm https://twitter.com/AnthonyLimaFANHAHA.
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- Football has been a big part of his life, he is a coach's son - from ohio - Has a lot of experience in working with rookie/untalented QBs - IS NOT A RETREAD - Will take 2-3 years to establish himself as good before he is snagged away or fired for not being good (Continuity) - He is young and hungry
As a fan I say give him a chance. It's not like they just picked him up off the street or he hasn't been in the game.
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from the raiders? me thinks our offense is gonna go back to the glory days of....scoring 15 points a game. As long as the defense gives up just 10...we're good!
Its all going to come to if we have a viable QB. Cause like last year, even with Hoyer. Teams played a minimum of 8 in the box some more.
Teams will dare us to beat them by the pass and since they are caught with 8+ in the box they will be blitzing a lot of them. So we will need smart and quick decisions back there.
If we can run successfully with 8 in the box which with Mack we did. The flow might come. Not able we got to beat them via pass. pure and simple.
So good luck DeFilippo. Welcome aboard now Pettine has his man. Hope all is on the same page and we make this work Long terms. I think all he has to hire is a WR and QB Coach and we are ready to go.
We know we have to add a QB. Vet from FA more likely the choice - possibly another besides Hoyer? or a redo with Hoyer?
I think we are good with our OC/DC/ST for at least 3 years.
2015 here we come!
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I love this hire! Absolutely love it!
He worked with Carr in Oakland, and helped get him become productive right away. He is a bright offensive mind.
Great hire! (especially if we want to develop a QB)
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yep worst choice theycould have made...
once they missed out on Musgrave, Olson and Trestman they panicked. This is a joke, right?
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j/c:
Still need a QB coach......
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Jets and Raiders omg
So I have this straight. A guy who is the QB coach for the Broncos, oversaw this guy, who is now our OC?
lmao, cue the Yakety sax!!!!
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man bro did you see hoyers mechanics? i believe that could've been the sole reason for his decline.
i'd be willing to let him start another year, if we can't pick up somebody better in FA.
maybe since the guy was a QB coach, and he did, honestly, do a decent job with Carr, he can work some magic on Hoyer or Manziel.
i know he's just the QB coach over there in oakland, but watching some of those games.....ugh.
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I think that its a possibility of a good choice. Far as I know, he has never been an OC so we have no way of knowing how he will do. At the very least he is a pretty good QB coach who tends to get the best out of his QBs. IF and its a big IF he can wake Manziel up to his potential then we can be on to something here.
I am cautiously optimistic.
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My main concern is that the Raiders didn't challenge downfield at all last year despite having big receivers and a strong armed QB. I hope it was a pass protection issue. The Raiders' offense was not good last year.
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j/c:
Still need a QB coach......
BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE! This is a guy who could function as his own QB coach. (as many NFL OC do) I think that I heard that mentioned earlier in the search.
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Well he's been at it for quite some time. Young or not. So when you are involved like he has - he's been writing his own book, in this case playbook.
He has to tweak it to what we have here. but most important is he has to teach it for it to be executed. Why many are looking at what he did with Carr to prepare him for the NFL. Maybe a testimony to his ability to communicate and teach.
I am curious on the Scheme but honestly its all about the execution! I'm sure he'll get better as the years go along. Why of course I welcome continuity. Hope Pettine has overall success to insure his being here. His staff being here and of course Farmer and the FO to be here for several years.
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My main concern is that the Raiders didn't challenge downfield at all last year despite having big receivers and a strong armed QB. I hope it was a pass protection issue. The Raiders' offense was not good last year. He was the QB coach for the Raiders last year, not the Offensive Coordinator.
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I like that we got a young guy who is used to working with many, many different types of rookie/young QBs (Eli Manning, JaMarcus Russell, Mark Sanchez, Terrell Pryor, Derek Carr).
Hit or miss on those guys development, but he should at least know what is needed in terms of preparation there.
And, I am thankful we didn't hire an old retread. We need to have fresh ideas on offense.
Then again, he could be completely in over his head. No way to know for certain, so I'll err on the side of optimism for the Youngstown native.
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And, I am thankful we didn't hire an old retread. We need to have fresh ideas on offense. Indeed. Hiring Weis, Martz, Trestman, etc. would have been the easy thing to do, I like going out on a limb for a new guy.
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yep worst choice theycould have made...
once they missed out on Musgrave, Olson and Trestman they panicked. This is a joke, right? yes.
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yep worst choice theycould have made...
once they missed out on Musgrave, Olson and Trestman they panicked. This is a joke, right? yes. Whew.
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About as non-flashy of a hire as you'll get, but DeFilippo was probably the best the Browns really could have landed. And a favorite of Pettine's, too.
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I think this will be a growing experience for both offensive side of the ball and DeFilippo as an OC. This, much like drafting a first round QB, has the potential to be a great move for the long term; but, it also has a great potential of failure for the same reasons. We will have to be patient as fans and not go into this change expecting a 30 point/game average next year. My hope is the FO and Pettine give him a chance to grow into the role. I like that he interviewed with us twice. That shows a desire to be here.
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Off the bat, I don't have many warm and fuzzy feelings about this hire. He was one of the candidates that was on the bottom of my list...
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About as non-flashy of a hire as you'll get, but DeFilippo was probably the best the Browns really could have landed. And a favorite of Pettine's, too. Nobody wanted this job.
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About as non-flashy of a hire as you'll get, but DeFilippo was probably the best the Browns really could have landed. And a favorite of Pettine's, too. Nobody wanted this job. A lot of guys wasted their time interviewing for it then.
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Of course.
The raiders and jets have good track records developing quarterbacks.
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I've never met the man,never heard him speak,have no idea what type of O he prefers,hell I don't even know what his sexual deviances are. I beleive the same can be said for everyone on the board,but just like teenage girls,you people don't like him,because,I don't know why. He's had crap to work with for most of his career,as he will have here,and to be expected the crap played like crap.Not the coach's fault.
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Its all going to come to if we have a viable QB. Cause like last year, even with Hoyer. Teams played a minimum of 8 in the box some more.
Eight in the box all year long, huh?
Ofcoarse, the quality of our deep WRs had nothing to do with team crowding the los?? The loss of Gordon meant nothing, right?
I'm not about to say that Hoyer was the best QB in the NFL, but he was 10 times the QB of the #2 Browns Qb. Yet some want to kick the dog crap out of Hoyer.
All Hoyer did was... ...he went 7-6 as our starter in 2014 ...of those 6 losses, 3 of those losses were by 1 point, 2 points, and 3 points. Those 3 close losses were to teams that made playoffs..Colts, Ravens, Steelers. ...there were 3 losses where the Browns were soundly beaten.
...your boy, Johnny Football went 0-2 as our starting QB ...Connor Shaw went 0-1 as a starter.
If the Browns don't bring back Hoyer and Manziel is "forced" onto Pettine and the DeFlippo by Haslam and Farmer, 2015 will be a very long season.
The only way Manziel can start is if Hoyer is gone and Manziel is handed the starting job...and that is the last thing this team needs.
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About as non-flashy of a hire as you'll get, but DeFilippo was probably the best the Browns really could have landed. And a favorite of Pettine's, too. Nobody wanted this job. Oh I don't think that's accurate. I mean, if it were, why did so many guys take the interview. If you say practice, I'm sending the fleas of a thousand camels to your home to infest your panty hose. 
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Please don't turn the DeFilippo thread into a QB thread. There are soooooooo many other places to talk about that.
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I've never met the man,never heard him speak,have no idea what type of O he prefers,hell I don't even know what his sexual deviances are. I beleive the same can be said for everyone on the board,but just like teenage girls,you people don't like him,because,I don't know why. He's had crap to work with for most of his career,as he will have here,and to be expected the crap played like crap.Not the coach's fault. I hear ya. Perhaps we do indeed drool for the "flashy hire" and yes, I can admit I also don't know much about him. What I've read through doesn't really give a whole lot to bank on though. Hopefully he can prove me wrong though. I'd have no issues admitting I was wrong on my first impressions if he puts a product worth a damn on the field!
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Please don't turn the DeFilippo thread into a QB thread. There are soooooooo many other places to talk about that. umm...doesn't the OC and the QB we have a pretty important issue?
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What I've read through doesn't really give a whole lot to bank on though. David Fales! Let's focus on the good.
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