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Trestman said he would like to come here, I guess we found someone we wanted more.

I don't like the "never called plays at any level" part.

It doesn't have to be the NFL, but having never called plays before means he's a total rook when it comes to sequencing plays/drives.

Underwhelming, but at this point, it won't make or break it. I consider next season "sunk cost" anyway (on all important levels, GM, HC, QB). New everything in 2016, maybe even new LT

i see you're trying to cause riots around here. even joking about it will cause the pitchforks and torches to come out in full force.

Didn't DeFilippo call plays at San Jose State?

Sorry mac, it was more of a general comment that was just directed to you because of the quick reply feature.

Good hire and he was the guy Pettine wanted last year. Maybe now farmer will keep his nose out of the coaching staff.

Ok, maybe the LT thing was provocative, but it's my honest opinion that we're headed towards a total rebuild on all levels after 2015. 3 crappy drafts in a row will leave its mark.

It's only my opinion and far from a fact, nothing in the NFL really is, so there's always "hope" left or "that's why they play the games" etc etc, but I think too much has to go right in order to avoid this scenario.

Consider the outlook:

- FO-coaching (especially Farmer) already dueling/finger pointing in front of Haslam
- Haslam being trigger happy and impatient
- "franchise" QB looking like crap, with no forseeable short term replacement in sight, be it FA or draft
- lots of questionable character guys on the roster who are supposed to start/contribute
- "here we go again" sentiment among vets like Haden, JT, Mack after a good 7-4 start. They see dysfunction everywhere, from top to bottom and on the roster
- speaking of Mack, he will most certainly use his opt out and leave after 2015 unless he has a bad season or another injury.

Hard to be optimistic. Farmer absolutely has to sign a lot of vets to fill needs and save his job....and then have a good draft too....and one of Gilbert/Manziel turning around wouldn't be bad either. I'll watch, but don't have much hope he can pull it off....

yes...After the 2008 season, DeFilippo left Oakland to take over as quarterbacks coach of San Jose State, and earned the added duties of offensive coordinator in 2010. In his first year as coordinator, the Spartans jumped 32 places nationally in total offense from the previous year.

That makes it a little better.

I believed a news report on his hire, saying he never called plays anywhere. I stand corrected

I don't know enough about the guy to say whether this is a good move or not, I'm just glad they made a move. Now the team can move forward and start drawing up plays for dumb (JF) and dumber (JG) to execute.

i'm wondering.....

so we got this new guy right.

he worked with Carr, did a decent job.

do y'all think maybe he got hired specifically to develop manziel? like maybe they could start manziel out the gate?

i dunno, kinda brain storming out loud.

possibly to help Manziel. he did help Pryor be a better NFL QB than I thought was possible (he was still bad, I just didn't think he could even be as good as that).

but, really, I think he was hired for 2 reasons:

(1) Trusted relationship with Pettine (important as we have seen)

(2) Has developed many QBs in the NFL (Eli, Sanchez, JaMarcus, Pryor, Carr)

So, he's seen a ton of different styles and seen the pitfalls and different results. He should be able to help the QBs (we hope) whether it's Manziel, Shaw, Hoyer, or someone else.

But, we won't know until we know. Ya' know

Clearly, whoever our new OC would be, his main task would be to develop Manziel. The larger question is how many got scared away because if it?

Adam Kaplan tweets DeFillipo's offensive schemes and terminology similar to WCO. Multiple personnel across the league believe this is a "Home Run Hire" for the Browns.

Only those too timid to tackle the issue. We wouldn't want those anyway...

Wait, wait, wait, wait. I thought no one wanted this job and that we got our last choice?

No, that was last year.

yes but what does la Canfora think...his voice is next to the voice of God.

Seriously... seems like a good hire....someone Pett wanted and hope he can work with... maybe even for two years *gasp*

and as some one just put it we will know when we know...

Kaplan is going to be on Cleveland Browns Daily in about 10 min if you want to hear him talk about him

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-cen...5b-b8b07fc17475

I think what I love most about this hire. Is that we still had planned interviews. And canceled them.

We found our guy.

Now hearing he runs a WCO style, and hopefully we can keep the ZBS in tact.. The amount of "turnover" can be minimal..

In a sense, it's a positve hire in that he and Pettine have a prior relationship and should work well together. I don't know much about the guy other than what his bio reads.

Time will tell. Hopefully, it works out. I take the positives from the media with a grain a salt, b/c I don't recall anyone in the media really describing a team's new hire as garbage with no potential for success. Additionally, we've been down this road about 12 times since '99.

Here is what Caplan had stated piggybacking off of Steve's post:

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Coaching source familiar with DeFilippo's offense/ideas: He'll run wording/verbiage system (similar to WCO).

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Countless coaches, execs who have worked with DeFilippo have raved about him. Think hire is a home-run for Browns.

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DeFilippo will get a 3-year deal, league source said. Coordinator contracts are typically either 2 or 3 years.

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Thanks MM!

Come on, when the issue is Manziel there's no one who's affraid to tackle him. In fact, he tackled himself a couple of times.

(Sorry, couldn't help that.)

As for DeFilippo, I'm glad that Pettine got his guy. I'm sure they share values and thoughts about the way an offense should be run and that can be nothing but positive.

I went though this entire thread and came back to this post. I didn't judge Pettine, Farmer or O'Neil when they came here because their resume's at their respective jobs simply didn't give me the liberty of coming to any determination of how they would perform those tasks. There simply wasn't enough information to form a solid conclusion or opinion.

I see this hire in very much the same light. Which means as just with the others, I'll form my future opinion based upon his performance. As with every coach, FO personnel or player, I want him to be the best he can be and make our team better.

But only with time will we know the answer to that question.

You got it.

Here's some more info from Lane Adkins on the initial plan is to keep the ZBS.

Initial plan RT @BrendanLeister: I expect him to. We’ll see. RT @patrick__martin: @zanebhill Any chance Coach Flip sticks with the ZBS? I would think keeping Moeller helps?

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and our defense was SO good last year, it's sure we will only give up 10 points a game? The Coordinator we should have ran off was our DC. We can't stop the run. AGAIN. And we can't get pressure on the QB. AGAIN. 31 sacks is no where NEAR good enough. And in this league, when you let a QB stand in the pocket all day long you lose. We don't have one single pass rusher on the team. Not one. Mingo is a huge disappointment in that regard. Two whole sacks last year. Man, he's going to make everyone forget Lawrence Taylor with stats like that.

As for running the ball. Yes, we ran the ball well with 8 in the box. In SHANAHAN'S system. Now that we are scrapping the zone block WCO we have no idea what to expect. Right now we have two sure and certain linemen. Mack and JT have shown the ability to block in varied schemes. The rest may or may not take to the new blocking scheme.

And a big worry for me is at running back. We might not have one on the team right now. As everyone knows, runningbacks seem to thrive in the Shanahan system. They gets lot of yards and touchdowns. Then when they move on, almost all of them fall flat on their face.... Teams give them huge deals and live to regret it. Well, the backs haven't moved on in this case, Shanahan did. So can Crowell and or West run in our new system? Or will they suck outside of Shanahans runningback friendly zone blocking WCO?

Then there's the problem of calling plays on game day. Something our new coordinator has never done.... So we have a first year OC running a brand new scheme, with NO QUARTERBACK. One single receiver threat that may or may not actually be playing. Two running backs that may both suck in our new system, and a GM that has stated many times he has no desire to upgrade the receiver position. he thinks receivers are useless.

Gee we're in GREAT shape. Doesn't get any better than that. A defense that can't stop anyone and thinks touching a QB is icky. An offense run by a guy that's never done it before. Without a QB? What's not to love? Woo hoo! Now all we have to do is wait for the draft so Farmer can blow it again. Two first round picks.... anyone want to bet neither of them see the field again this year? THose two picks certainly helped us last year afterall....Because we are so talent laden we just don't need picks to actually play.....

Nope.I believe MP wanted to work with him last year.

Johnny will get a chance to start. We will bring in competition for him via trade or FA or possibly even the draft. Now with that said,Last I checked however this was the OC thread and there were 500 other Manziel related threads for people to bash the kid on.

Flip is a young up comer and not a retread.. all I can hope for is he does a good job... I will be excited to see how the offense looks under him..

and I really hope this is a 3-5 year hire.

Derek Carr is calling in to Golden Boys radio show at 4:30 eastern to talk about DiFillipo

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/affPopup?s=wknr-am

The Browns didn't have a QB last year.

Hoyer was bottom of the league. 55% completion, 12 touchdowns, 13 interceptions and a QB rating of 76.5 He's a backup. Period. 55% with more interceptions than touchdowns ISN'T going to get it done. If we didn't have such a weak schedule last year playing the NFC South we wouldn't have had 7 wins. More like 4.

Johnny is a head case that was incapable of staying healthy for more than two games. A scenario I feared the day we drafted him. He's TINY. Just a little bitty guy. Now, that wouldn't be so terrible if he was a pocket passer. But he likes running around. So he's a small little guy that likes to run. Is anyone surprised he got hurt? Does anyone think he can survive a season in the NFL? So who in their right mind would develop an offense around a guy that likely won't be there all season? If you do, you better find a couple VERY similar backups so they can run the same offense when he goes down again. Add to that his penchant for screwing up and his attitude toward studying and he's looking like a bust already. Right now he's off in party land. hanging with his friends. Drinking himself in to a stupor. That going to really help him face NFL defenses next season.... right.

We are wihtout a QB. And the likelyhood of us acquiring one is virtually nill. Farmer and company drafted Johnny over Bridgewater and Carr. So I'm supposed to buy that they can find a quarterback in the draft this year when they passed last year in favor of Hype boy? And it's not like good quality starters are available in FA every year.... so where will this magic quarterback come from?

Unless a miracle occurs a return to 4-12 or 5-11 seems very likely next season.

Im cool with the hire. At the end of the day its all about player execution and talent..

Can't wait for next season.. Hopefully with the draft, we can add a few more offensive pieces.

Proof Positive that some folks are not happy unless they are wallowing in self pity and misery.

I like the hire. Pettine got the guy he wanted. I'll sit back and watch what happens instead of crying and wringing my dress.

Listening now. A lot of great things to say about "Flip."

They should have the podcast up later that can be posted here.

P.S. Don't forget it's Golden Boy(z). Hammer likes to keep it fresh, yo!

I hope he proves me wrong but most likely by this time next year you'll be liking the next guy we hire while the rest of us are crying and wringing our dresses out.

I listened to a little of it then got a phone call from a customer (how dare they call at that moment)

Carr had some very good things to say. Very positive about "Flip".

I don't know, maybe he'll be the guy that makes JM work. that's the key, who ever we hired needs to make JM work.. either that, or Farmer better find another QB in a hurry.

His resume is light. but I guess we'll see.