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Browns reach out to Brian Hoyer's camp about extension

MOBILE, Ala. -- The Cleveland Browns have expressed interest in re-signing Brian Hoyer, agent Joe Linta told ESPN.com.

"We've left the door open both ways," said Linta from this week's Senior Bowl about his correspondence with the team.

Hoyer, who led the Browns to a 7-6 record in games he started but struggled late in the year, is due to meet with general manager Ray Farmer and new offensive coordinator John DeFilippo in the coming weeks. Linta said Hoyer has heard good things about DeFilippo, the former Oakland Raiders quarterbacks coach who spoke Thursday at a team press conference.

Talks between Hoyer's camp and the Browns could heat up closer to the NFL combine in late February.

Hoyer and the Browns had contract discussions over the summer that fell through, and negotiations were nonexistent during the year.

In 13 starts and one relief appearance, Hoyer completed 242 of 438 passes for 3,326 yards, 12 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. The Browns started 6-3 with minimal receiver help. Five of Hoyer's interceptions came in his first seven quarters with Josh Gordon, who returned from suspension in Week 12.

The Browns benched Hoyer in Week 13 at Buffalo, then brought him back for a 25-24 loss to the Indianapolis Colts. He was replaced by Johnny Manziel as the starter in Week 15.

Regarding an extension, Farmer said in late December that "leverage is definitely in [Hoyer's] court to make that happen," but cautioned that teams and agents don't always agree on terms.

Farmer said at the Senior Bowl he would not discuss free-agency matters.

The Browns will likely push to sign Hoyer for backup quarterback money; Hoyer's camp will want more. Farmer and coach Mike Pettine have said they'd like to give Manziel a chance to compete in training camp in 2015.

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns...tract-extension

(getting popcorn ready)

Get it done. Sign the man and pay him what he deserves. Then focus on Oline depth and some quality receivers in the draft.

hoyer better take whatever he can get from us.

the browns FO and fans aren't the only ones who watched hoyer's mechanics completely go to crap mid season. we aren't the only ones who watch a "Vet" act like a a kid in the sandbox when his favorite toy(gordon) came back.

it's like we can't even get a complete QB around here. Hoyer had ice in his veins with regards to game winning drives. he HAD great decision making, even though we all know how many INT he dodged by drops from the defenders.

but he has no mobility, his arm is suspect.

then we have a guy who's super mobile, but hasn't showed ANYTHING else.

before that, we had a guy with all the typical QB stuff(weeden) but just freaking sucked.


i dunno yall.....sorry if i'm not motivated by this announcement.

of course we are reaching out to him, we don't have a choice. nobody out there is any better.

If we don't get Hoyer signed before free agency opens, I have a feeling we'll be on the phone to Sanchez's agent immediately.

Eeny meeny miney moe.. will he stay or will he go ?

I don't care much any more.. Don't perform your, out the door..

In all serious ... I'm more interested on how Shaw will do..

Maybe Flip is the guy who can help Brian perform better and if he does start ..keep him playing well into the second half of the season..

I don't want to see a good start and horrible finish from our QB like we saw last season ever again...

agreed. it still surprises me that some are so adament that we "have to re-sign him" when he is coming off arguably the worst 4-game stretch in Cleveland Browns QBing history.

You bet. Lets hope Hoyer is our QB for the next ten years. I don't EVER want a Browns QB to thorw more than 12 touchdowns a season. 55% completion percentage and more interceptions than touchdowns is EXACTLY what this team needs! Come on Farmer, pay Hoyer 80 million with 50 mill guaranteed.

By the way, Farmer has said on many occasions he isn't going to draft a WR. EVER. He thinks the position is useless. NOT an area of concern. He didn't draft one when he KNEW meathead was out for the season, why would you think he'd drraft one now?

If Johnny hype can't beat out a 55% 12 TD a season Hoyer then he's a BUST right now. Cut his ass and find someone that can. Hoyer is a backup. Period. Any QB that can't break 60% completions and throws more picks than TD's ISN'T the answer. Time to move on to someone that might be.

Farmer said the leverage or whatever was on or in Brian's favor. To me that means, you better not be expecting the money that you likely wanted at an earlier time lol!

In all seriousness though, I like it I guess. Even though he pretty much collapsed at the end of the season there, has shown his deep ball game is NOTHING to write home about and so forth - I guess not much is available in terms of free agent QB. In any case, it better not be a big chunk of $ if we resign Brian.

There's got to be SOMEONE out there better than Hoyer. Someone that can at least thorw the ball more than 20 yards and can complete more than 55%. I'm not that picky right now. Sign a journeyman in FA and draft another QB in April. Of course, Farmer is the one that gave us Johnny Hype, so any hope that he has a CLUE about what a real QB looks like should be tempered. If passing on Bridgewater and Carr for Johnny is any indication... we are in DEEP trouble.

Pretty much.

Translated-------------they want him to start.

And it explains two things:

1. It's one of the main reasons Shanny wanted out of Cleveland.

2. It will also probably spell the end of Hoyer in Cleveland.

But no, this franchise is not set up to fail. Everything is rosy and anyone who questions this team is simply wallowing in misery.

lose your faith in johnny chuckles?

I guess you haven't been reading my posts about him. I have said he has looked terrible and hasn't shown me anything in the NFL that makes me think he can play in this league.

Now, he may turn it around.....but as of right now, he looks like a dud.

I agree.

I would be fine with some other viable option at QB but I don't see one at this time. The best way to improve this team next year is to make sure we can run the ball at will. Become a much better defending the run and get pressure on the QB. These are all more doable than magically producing a franchise QB for 2015.

Hoyer on a decent three year deal makes sense to me. As limited as many of you consider Hoyer to be the team won 7 games with him as a starter. If the team can address the priorities that I mentioned then the Browns have a chance to surpass the 7 win mark.

to be truthful. not much after you said you were going to suport him no mater what because he was a underdog. when people start talking like that it isnt worth reading what they think of the talent on the roster.

kinda like eo with lava and marcy. "just defend them because they are browns and underdogs" makes it so you cant believe one word they say about talent.

You don't have to believe me. It doesn't bother me if you do or don't.

I will defend him from unfair attacks that are based on hate and not legitimate evaluations.

However, I am not going to lie about things and say he played okay. He stunk! He looked lost! His game against the Bengals was perhaps the worst I have ever seen and his second start was not much better.

Now, if you wanna just make this personal.........go ahead, but I did try to answer your question as best and as honestly as I could.

I can support an underdog like no one else can ... if they are working the hardest and doing the most they can to become better. Rich, entitled, party boys who lie through their teeth don't warrant my support.

I judge a man by his deeds and not his words. I don't think Pettine has the time to let Johnny grow up. That being said the best way to probably make Johnny grow up or quit is to make him the starter. Let him feel the wrath of an entire area and I bet he gets tired of sucking it up REAL FAST. No amount of money can hide that kind of shame.

I suspect he wouldn't really care.

You had the networks shuffling their schedules to get him on TV, and he embarrassed himself on a national stage at a pretty epic level.

The next week he missed treatment because of a party.

That doesn't sound to me like someone who cares if he is embarrassed or not.

what hate? his off field conduct is a wreck. his play on the field is a wreck. his study and film watch is a wreck. just tell me where all this unfair attacks are. heck the guy said he is not changing for any one. personal? the fact is when people like you start talking about protecting players only because you feel they are being picked on instead of pure football it more than less makes you a liar. not only to the board but yourself too. jmo.

not personal to me one bit. i dont do personal. just want you to be the great poster you were like on the other board. the no BS what you truly think poster you were. jmo. and take it for what its worth. not much i would think.

I view Hoyer as better than Manziel or anything that we could get in the draft to immediately help

Sign him to a 2-3 year incentive-laden deal if possible.

If another team steps to the plate with a guaranteed contract then I'd say goodbye

How much do you consider a low ball offer and how much would you offer him?

I'm sure others have said before that the money offered would depend on whether you see him as a starter or a backup. You certainly aren't going to pay Hoyer 8-10 million to ride the pine...

Not that Hoyer, or a majority of qbs who've played for the Browns, are better than good enough, but I'm a little reluctant to judge ANY qb based on his success with THIS team.

I would be OK if Hoyer signed, even if it's a little more than back-up money, but I'd prefer finding a free agent, if possible, and have the 3 compete.

The trouble I see with my idea is I'm not sure Manziel can play in any offense that's not specifically designed for his talents or lack of talents.

I view Connor Shaw as better than Manziel, no sarcasm either.

Based on what we saw at the end of last season, I believe that is accurate. JM's upside is probably greater than Shaw's however...

My guess is that they go after Mark Sanchez in free agency if they can't get Hoyer back. I think it's even more likely now that the new OC is Sanchez's former QB coach when they were in New York together.

Chad Pennington right now has a better arm than Shaw. Shaw is not the answer and never will be. Sorry.

Convinced we can do more with him than without him. Paying him isn't playing him. Lock him up and do the dumb competition dance if you want. We need a known temp at least. If JM can be a project, so be it. Nail down the known if we can. The top doesn't seem sold on JM.

Think the "Johnny Hype" decision is separate from Hoyer decision. And maybe much more pressing than the other. I favor moving on with something known; mechanics can be fixed; not sure it is the same with attitude.

Don't see another "competition" helping. Get to a known set and go with it. And ignore the lip service and hype.

I was pleased with Shaw. All this upside talk about JM is accurate and true, but if it isn't on the field and realized, it is pointless and academic.

To crack on Shaw with little prep time and give JM a pass for miserable outing is wrong IMO.

j'c:

I think Hoyer can be a "silent contributor".

I haven't given up on JM but his off the field antics have got to stop or his talent on the field is mute ...

" did Hoyer earn a Dalton type of contract..."

Dalton didn't earn his Dalton sized contract. Lol

one doesn't have to have faith in Manziel to acknowledge how badly Hoyer played his last 4 starts.