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It's a strain of marijhewuana. A good one, at that. Real good.

and the THC is pretty high.

Explains some of the posts.

Some posts lack any explanation.

True, but you usually provide an explanation.

Agreed. Or did you misspell comprehension?

People on here don't believe in miracles but I have witnessed
a weiner turn into a rock.

just sayin'

You guys need to stay away from Josh Gordon. Wouldn't want any of your second hand smoke ruining another season!

That's what all the ladies say.

ZING
ZOWIE

Is the Rock a sheep in wolves clothing?

KABAAM!

Weiner likes that new moniker, maybe the real weiner/rock will step forward?

jc

so anyway, back to the state of the union.

good job, obama. you've managed to piss off the old rich white guys again! because the old rich white guys don't even care about the middle class white guys. cause they're rich!!!

Gosh I hope not. Even he is a Conservative on these boards!

Quite interesting to me that no one on this board is talking about what is going on in Yemen.

Not too long ago, Obama was touting Yemen as one of his greatest victories of diplomacy. Really??? Now the country has overthrown its leaders and Americans are being evacuated.

Someone said Obama was respected worldwide and those who think otherwise must not travel very much. What??? Really?? I guess what is going on in the middle east must be a celebration of Obama and "ally " in nature. Not!!

My what a difference a few months make.

BINGO!

Just another of a long list of American interests going down the drain due to our lack of leadership at the top.

If someone would have wrote a book about Obama 20 years ago and all the antics, policies and lack of leadership that has happened and put it in that book, nobody would believe it. It would be considered far out fiction that could never happen in this country. We have become the laughing stock of the world with ruined foreign policy in Russia, Europe, Middle East and China. After he is long gone and someone writes a book about the inner lies, deceit and manipulation, that book will be a best seller.

Will that be right before or right after a book with that same type of context comes about Bush?

That's the problem here, nobody is willing to look at both sides of the coin when it comes to inept leadership.

Well at least the War on the Middle Class is going well.

So you're gonna point to another craptastic middle eastern country as a sign obama isn't respect world wide?

Maybe I should point to another heroin overdosed woman as a sign that suburban moms are druggies, too.

Yes, as a matter of fact I am. Lump in Iran, Afghanistan and Syria. I do believe it was you, sir, who suggested (and that is ALL it is) that those who do not travel worldwide are misinformed and really don't know how respected the man is. Really?? Examples please.......

Obama has done everything he can to destroy relationships with our middle eastern allies, that is those we have left.

You can use the Mom analogy if you choose. However, it would be ridiculous. But, go ahead if you choose. We will read and snicker!!

you do realize that the only middle eastern allies we have are RICH countries, right?

Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Saudi. they are STILL allies. we have bases there that will never get closed.

you just named off countries that will NEVER be allies with almost anybody. you do realize that these countries have been fighting with each other or other regimes since before USA was a twinkle in anybody's eyes, right?

you do realize that those countries you named off hate everything and every ideology that represents America, right?

you do realize that if you had to find ONE reason for them to not be allies, its because of religion, right?

never mind travel, it seems you failed world history class. might want a redo on that one. Those countries are either ran by dictators or by Terrorist groups.

remind me again why we HAVE to be allies with a region where we already killed TWO, count em TWO(saddam, Osama) and even more dictator and master minds they have to offer.

let me try to get you to understand this. one more time.

those countries you listed off, Afghan, Syria, Iran-hell, let me help you out- Iraq, Pakistan:
those countries will NEVER, EVER, EVER be true or even remote allies with us. they never have, and they most likely never will.

i've already gave a history lesson on why countries like iraq look at us like idiots. they have been conquered by almost every major Dynasty the world has to offer, and it HASN'T WORKED.

that you think the US would some how be different, shows you're just as insane as the war mongering republicans you vote for.

and just to drive home the point.

The US replaced in the afghan government with a president who is nothing but a PUPPET for us, and he STILL started running his mouth, talking trash about the US before Obama even took office.

thats not a shot at bush, thats the reality of the so-called "allies" you seem to think we had with Afghan.

Bb

Thank you. You are right. History and worl civ classes are not my strong point. However, one need not be an historian to understand what common sense dictates.

You do realize we have a leader who bows to other countries.

You do realize we have a leader who missed on most of his "campaign" promises.

You do realize, yes, Yemen was touted by the leader as a great dimplomatic accomplishment......bragged on by our leader. Check your own description of this part of the world then tell me why our leader was so arrogant and willing to associate himself so closely in false pretense.

You do realize I am an Independent
You do realize I an am independent thinker who does not require guidance
You do realize I vote for those who suit MY personal thoughts and feelings on our societal mores
You do realize you are wrong, yet again, accusing someone you know nothing about of voting along party lines.

All it takes to see what is going on in this country are eyes, ears and a bit of brain activity.

You would serve yourself much better to stick to the FACTS and stop the interpolation of others. it does not become you Swish!

When you reply, be nice. You can cease the name calling and attacks on others who you truly know nothing about. I'm going to spend time with my family now. Catch your snarky reply tomorrow!

stop, it was hard for me to continue reading once you stated the "bow to other countries".

you need to expand on this. because if what you mean is, he bows to other leaders when he meets them, you're argument is gonna get destroyed.

if you mean he does whatever other countries tell him to do, you're argument is gonna get destroyed as well.


so does every president, we've gone over this already. i've said over and over Obama hasn't done a stand up job. but me and you are talking about the middle east right now.

every single president has had a screw up with regards to "accomplishments" with other countries.

should i remind you about the "mission accomplished" Bush said with regards to Iraq and Afghanistan? exactly.

its the middle east, none of our presidents, nor congressmen for that matter, have learned that those guys can NOT be trusted.


look at everything you posted in this part of the forums. you're saying one thing, but your post up until now says something completely different.


everything i said about the middle east is facts. sorry bout it. sure you can see whats wrong with this country. but globally? you got some work to do.

Why not let individual states take care of that problem then. If they have the tax base to make CC free, then that's up to them.

Not everyone is cut out for CC or any college. Some people are more apt to be plumbers, electricians, or fast food workers. Would you send one of your kids if they were a D student? I wouldn't pay for that.

we don't know if some kids are good in college because they can't afford to go in the first place.

Any one can afford to go to community college IF they really desire to - and if they have that desire, they'll do well.

Giving it for free is a handout. If you're going to give people a free 4 year education (high school), and then give a free 2 year degree - why not go all out and give people a free Bachelors? Maybe even a masters degree?

It's great that TN has the money to pay community colleges for everyone to go............(I'll bet the community colleges were in favor of it).

I paid for community college while working minimum wage at a grocery store.

I am curious, if Tennessee pays for community college for anyone who wants to go, have tuition costs for each student gone up, or down? Someone has to be paying the bill eventually. Does anyone know what the per student cost is with the government picking up the tab?

I couldn't find a job when I wanted to go.

Just clicking;The CC thing will be and is a joke because all this will do is appease the entitlement crowd, the teachers union, and the colleges that spew progressive rhetoric so the libs can strengthen their base all on the backs of the honest working middleclass. Don't get me wrong im all for helping a person to educate their selfs but I believe that trade schools would be a great step for the poorest people and it would be a great first step to get people out of poverty.

This is coming from the guy who tried to argue that Obama was a Robin Hood president stealing from the haves and giving to the have nots?

That's why it's required that you have to have certain grades and graduate on time to be eligible. Not only that, but you have to maintain a certain grade point average once you begin college to continue getting it paid for. It's not some program where everyone gets in no matter what.

Now as far as it being a state to state program, I really have no issue with that. Since so far the state I live in is the only state to offer it, it gives the state I live in a leg up on everyone else. Our Gov. has the vision and foresight to understand that a better educated people draws in more better paying jobs to our state.

I don't believe every American deserves the same opportunity.

Middle-class savings like blood in the water

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Glenn Harlan Reynolds 12:33 p.m. EST January 26, 2015
Obama goes where the money is to pay for 'free' education programs - your savings account.


Bank robber Willie Sutton is said to have explained his career this way: "That's where the money is." Whether Sutton ever really said that, it's an aphorism that, according to Bloomberg's Megan McArdle, explains President Obama's plans to go after middle class assets like 529 college savings plans and home appreciation.

Though millions of Americans have been putting money into "tax free" 529 plans to save for their children's increasingly expensive college educations, President Obama would change the law so that withdrawals from the plans to fund college would be taxed as ordinary income. So while you used to be able to get a nice tax benefit by saving for college, now you'll be shelling out to Uncle Sam every time you withdraw to pay for Junior's dorm fees.

This doesn't hurt the very rich — who just pay for college out of pocket — or the poor, who get financial aid, but it's pretty rough on the middle– and upper–middle class. In a double-whammy, those withdrawals will show up as income on parents' income tax forms, which are used to calculate financial aid, making them look richer, and hence reducing grants.

Likewise, Obama proposes to tax the appreciation on inherited homes. When you sell property at a profit, you pay capital gains on the difference between the basis (what you paid) and what you sell it for. (Obama also proposes to increase the capital gains rate). That's not a big issue for most middle class people, because right now if your parents leave you their house, you get what's called a "step-up" in basis.

That means that the basis isn't what your parents paid for the house decades ago, but rather what it was worth when you inherited it. Thus, the appreciation your property experienced while your parents owned it comes to you tax-free. For many families, that appreciation is their biggest inheritance. Now, subject to some exemptions Obama plans to tax those gains, and other gains via inheritance.

Why would the White House even consider such a thing? As McArdle observes: "The very fact that we are discussing taxation of educational savings — redistributing educational subsidies downward — indicates that the administration has started scraping the bottom of the barrel when seeking out money to fund new programs. Why target a tax benefit that goes to a lot of your supporters (and donors), that tickles one of the sweetest spots in American politics (subsidizing higher education), and that will hit a lot of people who make less than the $250,000 a year that has become the administration's de facto definition of 'rich'? Presumably, because you're running out of other places to get the money."

When a government is desperate for cash, it goes after the middle class, because that's where the money is. Yes, the rich are rich, but the middle class is far more numerous. And this has raised other fears. As McArdle also notes, if 529 plans aren't sacrosanct, what about Roth IRAs? People have worried for a while that the government might go after retirement accounts as another source of income — to the point that there have even been calls for Congress to make such grabs explicitly off limits. But, ultimately, no one is safe, as what is enacted by one Congress can be repealed by another.

The truth is, in our redistributionist system politicians make their careers mostly by taking money from one group of citizens that won't vote for them and giving it to another that will. If they run short of money from traditional sources, they'll look for new revenue wherever they can find it. And if that's the homes and savings of the middle class, then that's what they'll target.

For the moment, Americans are safe. With both houses of Congress controlled by the GOP, Obama's proposals are DOA. But over the long term, the appetite for government spending is effectively endless, while the sources of revenue are limited. Keep that in mind as you think about where to invest your money ... and your votes.

-No worries folks, what some call the fiscally irresponsible Republicans are gonna shut this crap down.

The Republicans are fiscally irresponsible.

That's not something 'some folks say'. It's a flat out fact.

That's like saying 'what some call the earth rotating around the sun'.

I guess you don't read before you reply.

You shouldn't just spew, you should educate yourself first.

Republicans are shutting ole Obama Clause down because of his being irresponsible and once again robbing the middle class.

This is coming from the guy who thought that Trayvon Martin beat George Zimmerman to death?

May I suggest mastering the ability to speak in complete sentences and understanding the words you use before advising others to educate themselves?

Well you haven't changed at all. In case you haven't noticed, Zimmerman is still alive and I said Trevon tried to beat him to death by bashing his head on the concrete.

Now stop making up falsehoods, stop trying to change the subject, and open your eyes to the FACT that Republicans are being responsible by shutting down Obama-Clause and his fiscal irresponsibility.

Once again, Obama leads us to believe that doing without to fund your childs tax free 529 college education fund is foolish for Nanny Government will take care of everything.

When you take that money out for college, he will now tax it!
If you want to send your child to a good private college, which of course Obama will not fund, you get slapped with taxes on your savings! This hurts the middle class, the child and private colleges! Oh shame on the irresponsible Nannys!

Here's your quote:



It's hard to take someone seriously when they can't spell, can't write in complete sentences, don't understand the meanings of the words they use, and find themselves unable to back up any claims they make outside of shouting them louder.



Are you honestly trying to argue that the Reublicans trying to defund a political opponents proposal - the savings of which will undoubtedly be spent on a corporate subsidy - is evidence enough to argue it over half a century of unabashed fiscal irresponsibility?

When was the last fiscally responsible Republcian outfit in government? President? Congress?

"Hey, they've spent like drunken teenagers for 50+ years, but they want to defund this Obama proposal, so...fiscally responsible."

That's your argument? Seriously? Did you spend even thirty seconds thinking that one through?

I get that this is half-baked troll job, but you think you'd have given up the fifth or sixth time you embarrassed yourself with an inability to argue a basic point.

Didn't you tell Pit you were going to try to make a coherent argument to back your views? Can you not do that, or did you just give up trying?

President Obama’s Executive Order to Control the Internet and all of the Other Unconstitutional Executive Orders From The Fascist Government:

When the Obama internet grab goes into play and it becomes a utility, your fees and taxes to post BS in support of Barrack will be rather costly.