DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Who realistically can the Browns land in Free Agency?

Seriously though, I recognize the Center, Wisniewski. Would he be a decent backup center to Mack?

Other than that, it doesn't look all that hot.

I guess it depends on your definition of "Big Money Guys"

Go after Suh, and throw 100 mil at him? No.

But give guys like Kruger 40 mil? Yeah. I'm ok with that.

You're absolutely correct. We need a pass rusher BIG TIME. Hell, we need a COUPLE pass rushers big time. We have NONE at the moment. Not one. We had 31 scaks last year. That's pathetic in the modern NFL. Completely unacceptable.

Suh won't come to a 3-4 team unless we SERIOUSLY overpay. He's not going to want o play Nose and just eat block so our linebackers can stand around looking stupid as they are want to do.... He's a 4-3 defensive tackle and a damned GOOD one. I really wouldn't want us to pay him 100 million and then force him to play out of position.

As to the receiver position, our glorious leader Ray Farmer has stated many times he doesn't think much of the position. He's perfectly content with the one's we have. If Jerry Rice was starring him in the face, he would pass. So any hope of our acquiring a real weapon at the position will have to wait for Farmer Brown to get the axe. As it stands the Browns will never have a WR corp worth spit.

I agree about Skrine as well. A MUST. He's our starter opposite Haden for the foreseeable future. No one else on the team seems capable of beating him out. And he played very well for the most part last year.

I think of the players you mentioned JPP is the only one that fits our scheme, and Farmer might be interested in. But MAN I would love to see Dez Bryant in a Browns uniform. And I would love to see us switch to a 4-3 and bring in Suh. But Pettine and company are sold on the No Pressure 3-4. I despise the NPD.

Here we are arguing about whether we should re-sign Jordan Cameron. Meanwhile Cameron is the best offensive skill player on the Raiders by a mile.

It could be worse people. . .

It doesn't look good because there are multiple reports about the FO interfering w/the coaching staff and our best coach wanting out after just one year because of the dysfunction in the FO/ownership.

Put it this way...........if I am a free agent w/choices, Cleveland is going to have to pay me way, way more than any other team before I sign there.

Farmer is a freaking moron!

No wonder we passed on Teddy [a franchise qb] for Manziel [a ticket and merchandise seller.]

The more I think about it, the more I think someone above Farmer made that pick.

That is probably the case no matter what in free agency? Teams always overpay for the top tier talent.

It sure seems that way. No, I don't have proof. It just seemed that way. Then again, it could have been Farmer and Haslam overruling what the coaching staff and scouting department wanted.

True, but I wasn't even talking about top tier talent. I was talking about anyone.

I think cold weather cities like Buffalo, Green Bay, and Cleveland have a tougher sell.

I think inept franchises like Oakland, Cleveland, and Jacksonville have a tougher sell.

I think that teams that are always changing things like Cleveland, Washington, and Oakland have a tougher sell.

See any common denominators, there?

I think in the end money talks. Offer more money than the next team and you get the guy. It's pretty simple.

That's a valid opinion, but I think that teams such as of those I mentioned have to overpay.

Would you say we overpaid for any of Whitner, Dansby, Kruger, Bryant, or Hawkins?

Yes. Would you say we didn't?

Furthermore, after the recent news of why Shanny left Cleveland---and not including the ignorant Cleveland homer bias---would you say that that incident helped our cause at all?

Just curious..................

I would say that we overpaid for Whitner and Kruger, but got fair value on Bryant, Hawkins, and Dansby.

I am not sure what happened with Shanahan. I don't think players will care as long as they feel comfortable with the current coaches and get paid enough money to be satisfied.

There is a pretty good crop of free agent wide receivers out there, I will be disappointed if we don't get one of them. I think the two big guys (Dez Bryant and Demaryius Thomas) will return to their current teams. That would still leave guys like Jeremy Maclin, Michael Crabtree, Randall Cobb, and Torrey Smith out there. Another tier below those guys would be a player like Cecil Shorts.

We have to get one of these guys so that we don't have to rely on a rookie to be our #1 guy if Gordon is gone.

I have said it before, but we need to throw some money Jerome Felton's way. He is the best fullback in the league and it sounds like we are going to go run heavy on offense.

We have a ton of cap room and we should be able to use it to fill some major holes in free agency.

We will need a receiver, but will Farmer try to sign one? He has made comments about a top tier receiver not being important.

so top tier WR AND QB's aren't important to this guy?

nevermind seattle, he's trying to go the 2000 ravens route.

I was huge on grabbing Maclin last year coming off of his injury...But I believe there is zero chance we sign him, Eagles have a a lot of cap space too, and an actually team in place...Maclin tore the league up this year and I believe will settle for top money and a place he can get the ball on a consistent basis(top tier QB)...Ditto for Cobb...Crabtree I think will go wherever the money is, may have a chance with him...Torrey Smith is interesting as well, always love the idea of stealing an AFC north weapon, but Baltimore will probably try in every offort to secure a weapon for FLacco as all they really have is aging Steve Smith, Thompson and Jacoby Jones (whom will probably get released as they barely played him in WR sets, and his salary is way too high for that)

"If defensive tackle were our primary concern, than sure, pay him a boat load to come here, but we need help at OLB/DE, RT, RG, and WR too..."

Our interior defense was pretty crappy this season as it has been for a long time, especially against the run. In my opinion, defensive tackle is a top concern and they should do whatever they need to in order to sign the best defensive tackle in the league. Suh would be an instant game changer and impact player.

FYI

Terrence Cody is now available.



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Not to make excuses, but the bulk load of our d-line was injury ridden. Rubin was never full perfect, Phil was injured, we didn't get John Hughes back until I think the last game and he was one of our better run pluggers and the list continues. Winn, Armonty Bryant and etc. It shouldn't be too much of a shocker why teams could pound the ball on us.

But, I'm not saying we should ignore the position. I'd have no qualms getting this monster Danny Shelton, even if it requires a little wheeling n dealing on draft day. Suh, as dirty as he is, would be a good addition to any d-line.

So if Cody was cut before his contract ends, is he now a FA and doesn't have to wait until the FA Period begins to sign with a team?

That's a good question and I was thinking the same thing. I feel like he can sign with anyone and doesn't have to wait until March but I could be wrong.

That is correct.

Just wanted to put this out there:

We can realistically sign any free agent. We just have to offer the player a ton of money.

There's zero chance Raiders Center Wesniewski comes here to backup Mack...the cost is way too great and he is a legitimate elite center on his own, whom is only looking to start (I remember when they took him in the second round a lot of people thought it was a reach...was actually a superb pick) Now unless the Browns trade Mack, which I doubt.

And say no to Terrence Cody...horribly conditioned player with poor attitude... They don't play him for a reason, for being giantic he is weak and stands too erect...a rare wiff by Ozzie Newsome

Report: Jordan Cameron Turns Down $6-7 Million from Browns

It looks like the Cleveland Browns are serious about keeping Jordan Cameron but may have some trouble doing so. According to a report this morning the Browns have started negotiations with Cameron but he has already turned down a contract between 6 and 7 million dollars:

Cameron’s free agency will be a very interesting one. Cameron had a break out year in 2013 but dealt with a ton of injuries, and some poor quarterback play, last season. His numerous concussions have kept him out of games and are a big concern for teams moving forward. Unlike other injuries, where once back to full health it is in the past, more concussions are likely after having a few.

Cameron is a West Coast guy as well. He may be interested in returning out that direction as well. There are plenty of teams that could use the services of tight end that showed signs of being elite. Yet how much might he be willing to leave on the table to be closer to family? The Browns have a ton of cap space and are likely to over pay for some players that they really want.

Fans will likely wonder if the instability at both the quarterback position as well as the offensive coordinator position will play a role in free agent’s decision. Could Cameron, who has experienced all the bad with the Browns, not want to subject himself to more change? Could he be worried about who, besides Johnny Manziel, could be throwing him passes?

If Cameron moves on the Browns will have a few options. Julius Thomas and Charles Clay, far different types of players, would be great, if expensive, fits in free agency. The NFL Draft doesn’t have a “for sure” guy but Maxx Williams leads an interesting crop of players that could intrigue the Browns.

Even if they sign Cameron the Browns could look for another tight end. That would give them insurance against Cameron’s injuries as well as give the team two tight ends to cause havoc for defenses.

http://dawgpounddaily.com/2015/01/26/report-jordan-cameron-turns-6-7-million-browns/

That's it right there, folks. The cost of the churn.

I can see this both ways:

--Why in the world would he want to stay here w/yet another new OC and no QB?

--Why would the Browns want to commit so much money to a guy who can't stay healthy and has one good season in his entire career?

Wherever he goes he has to learn a new system. He just might want a change of scenery. On the other hand, he is 1 good hit away from retirement although no matter where he ends up I hope it doesn't happen.

If this report is true about trying to re-sign Cameron for $6 to $7 million, then I would be shocked if we didn't eventually franchise him (transition tag) as the rate of salary is pretty similar.

Let Cameron walk. Looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.
He's not a difference maker. Had a good 1st half of 2013 and disappeared since then.
He's barely worth a mil.per year.

Colts have option to exercise voiding Trent Richardson's contract

INDIANAPOLIS – Colts running back Trent Richardson's status with the team and contract situation has been a hot topic ever since he was suspended for two games after he missed walkthrough the day before the AFC Championship Game against the New England Patriots on Jan. 18.


Richardson
A source who has seen Richardson’s contract told ESPN’s Field Yates that it has default language in it that would void the $3.1 million in guaranteed money he’s owed next season. But it’s up to the Colts to exercise that option.

Based off the recent events recently you can expect the Colts to exercise that option.

Richardson, who has been a disappointment since being acquired by Indianapolis in September 2013, missed the walkthrough and suspended for two games for conduct detrimental to the team. The first game of the suspension was the AFC Championship. He’ll serve the second game next season if for some reason the Colts decide to keep him, which at this point is highly unlikely.

Of course that won’t be the end of things if the Colts cut Richardson as expected. You can expect the NFLPA to challenge the ruling.

Stay tuned. This could get ugly between the Colts and Richardson.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_...rdsons-contract

Hate to make it seem like I'm always trying to rip the kid, but IMO that decision is a no brainer for Indy! A total no brainer. He's been outplayed by pretty much everyone.

get ugly? it's been ugly since the day they traded for him.