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I hate CP3. Makes me glad he's gonna be in the T-Mac / Melo category for his legacy. Stat padders that won't be remembered.

Candy, why do you hate CP3?

He's a flopping, whiny, fake tough, crybaby (insert expletive of choice).

so, he's like the majority of nba players, including lebron. got it.

Miller chucking looked worse than Scalabrine out there. When he tossed up that near airball with a minute left and nine seconds on the shot clock i was like "oh man are we gonna lost this?"

Lebron has never cheap shot players (Marc Gasol and Julius Hodge).

Miller was extremely disappointing yday. Had some great looks and kept missing and missing very badly. The bench all together didn't help. The only reason the score was what it was toward the end was bc the lack of production from the bench yday.

but he has done everything else you just listed.

i think the bench needs to get more PT. Miller rarely even plays. i think when we got a sizable lead, they need to see some minutes that actually matter. cause come playoff time, they can't be coming off cold like that.

I agree. I think people always looked at guys like Hakeem, Robinson and Shaq and said that teams were winning without those kind of big men scoring in the middle, so big men were no longer needed. But those guys were amazing two-way players, not only could they put up points in the middle, but they also gave you defense. You don't necessarily need a two-way big man, but you still need that defensive presence in the middle.

You can see the 180 difference with Moz in there. While he doesn't always put up huge stats, you can see other teams guards scared as heck to drive the lane. They seem to be taking a lot more jumpshots, which lead to quick rebounds, which lead to quick offense. Guys like Love and Thompson can focus much more on rebounding. Guys on the perimeter can focus on their defense as well, knowing they've got a guy behind them that can pick them up.

It's all lead to a much better defensive effort, which in turn has spurred the offense. It's been fun to watch!

Come playoff time, most teams won't get any deeper than the 8th guy on the bench, unless there are injuries.

I think Blatt has been giving the main guys huge minutes early in the season because he wants them to gel NOW rather than later. It's already starting to pay off. You can see the guys getting a lot more used to each other and it's part of the reason they're playing better. Kyrie and Lebron have both kind of found their roles within the team. Love is still working on it a bit. Come March and April, they'll probably get a LOT more rest and you'll see a lot more bench minutes. Then when the playoffs come around, we'll go back to an 8-man rotation and stick with it. By then, those guys will know how to play together from the big minutes earlier in the season, but they'll still have lots of rest from an easier Spring.

I would agree, I think the first team is still building that chemistry and getting to know each other so even with the leads, they are still getting the playing time but for sure, bench needs more time. With that said, the bench needs to make more an impact when granted that time.

I checked the box score during the 3rd quarter, we had only played 8 players to LACs 11.

Absolutely agree with you. If we reach the finals, Blatt is riding our Big 3 to the finish line. All 3 of them would probably average 40+ min a game in a series of that magnitude. It's why I want us to shut it down in April.

I would even be ok if we dropped a few spots in the East, because we gave everybody some rest..

But with the way the East is going, we may not even have to worry about that..

I think we can finish 2nd, while still giving guys rest...

If you give LBJ, Kyrie, or Love they day off when were playing a bad team, we can still win that game.. etc.

I'll go further. I don't care where we finish as a seed in the East. If everyone is healthy and rested, then I think we will run through the conference pretty easily (and, yes, that includes Atlanta).

The Cavs look like a different team. I think it starts w/LBJ. He was being lazy, careless, and soft earlier. He is not playing much harder, much smarter, and w/more of a purpose.

The trades helped a lot. They really did. But, I still think it starts and ends w/LeBron.

What was his relationship w/Waiters? Anyone know.

I just don't want to fall in the 4th or 5th slot. I want a freebee in round 1.

Well he apparently hasn't communicated at all with Dion since the trade, so I doubt they were "buds"

Whatever LeBron did on his vacation worked really well.

A Cleveland versus Miami (two versus seven) would be pretty fun.

There is a zero percent chance Cleveland runs through Washington, Chicago, and/or Atlanta. All of those teams are very good and the series would go six games at least.

GO CAVS!

That late three from Irving was sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love's defense is atrocious.

Lebron in takeover mode

man love is having a very craptastic game on both sides of the ball.

What is Blatts love obsession of playing TT over Mosgov at the end of games?

I know they played last night, but man, these are the Pacers. Let's close this out.

ref's coming with some mystery calls right now

Oh well

A streaky shooter went off. Love is so God damn soft. Looking at him and Jordan Cameron I kind of wonder if "California soft" is a real thing.

George Hill making a ridiculous one handed "throw" for a 4 point play...

Love is from Oregon. He went to college at UCLA for one year.

Also from California:

Tom Brady
Russell Westbrook
Aaron Rodgers
Troy Polamalu
Haloti Ngata
DeSean Jackson
Alex Mack
James Harden
Clay Matthews
Steve Smith
Marshawn Lynch

There are many more, should I keep going?

Jr is still fighting

Kind of funny you posted some injury prone guys and James Harden in an attempt to be your condescending self. All are great players though.

Injuries = soft?

It doesn't help

Also, not playing because you have a concussion is soft?

What are you even talking about?

Yes, because concussions were Jordans ONLY injury issues.

Based on the fact that your argument is horrible, I would guess that the concussions are the injuries you are talking about.

Road trip on a back-to-back. Those are always tricky games. Indiana also hit a 4 point prayer shot which was pretty much the difference in the game. Hopefully we can bounce back and win the three before the All-Star break.

The Pacers did a whole lot of things better than the Cavaliers, especially as far as moving the ball, and getting to the line. We also went cold shooting the ball after a strong 1st quarter.

We're back in 4th, tied with the Bulls.

Oh well, time to start a new streak.