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If you have the motivation, you will find the time and the transportation.

The last individual who acted on meaningful change for the impoverished, of all races, was assassinated in Memphis. There has been no Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., or similar figure which fights for the impoverished.

Too many people are willing to go with the status quo in order to secure a lifetime career in politics.

If you have the motivation, you will find the time and the transportation.

Motivation to many: promise of money or "free things".

I just disagree with connecting riots with voting.

I honestly think it's deeper and has less to do with laziness than you do, but that's ok.

Why is it so hard for some to accept that some people are just irresponsible, apathetic and lazy? For some, it is just who they are.

Can you really blame them for not voting? African Americans, as well as minorities as a whole, have lived through broken promises. Continually segregated schools, lowest rate of social mobility among developed nations, and police brutality do nothing but reinforce nothing will ever change.

Some people possess empathy. That's how people avoid putting a blanket statement over multiple individuals.

Uh, he was referring to "some people" and was not making a blanket statement on anyone the way I read it. You crusaders can be very judgmental.

this conversation has turned pathetic.

Leave it to the usual two to talk about people being lazy and entitled. then 40 talking about "in other countries", like that matters, at all.

Thats why rarely bother any more on this board. I already know the responses.

Some people possess empathy. That's how people avoid putting a blanket statement over multiple individuals.

this conversation has turned pathetic.

Leave it to the usual two to talk about people being lazy and entitled. then 40 talking about "in other countries", like that matters, at all.

Thats why rarely bother any more on this board. I already know the responses.

My guess is, and this is just a guess... that the 70% black population didn't feel like anybody running represented them... so evidently before they can vote, they need somebody to vote FOR.

I sincerely hope you aren't talking about me as one of those "usual 2....". If you are, fine I guess.

However, the topic swung just a bit when rocket said this:

"Can you really blame them for not voting? African Americans, as well as minorities as a whole, have lived through broken promises. Continually segregated schools, lowest rate of social mobility among developed nations, and police brutality do nothing but reinforce nothing will ever change."

In reading that, it gave me the impression rocket was saying "hey, don't blame them. The world is against them and they have no means to change it." And that's a crock.

Making excuses is weakening those excuse makers. It's giving them an easy "out"...."not my fault, it's the man".

pfft

Blacks are the dominant ethnic group in Ferguson. That kinda goes hand and hand.

DC posted something about why there was only so many who came out to vote, specifically because there was only 3 candidates, and all 3 were white.

I think it was only you that responded to that, and it went something along the lines of "well why didn't they get a black candidate in there".

Now, I'm no expert in politics, but It seems to be over the years that running for any office usually requires a boat load of money.

On top of that, 3 white candidates, and all the agencies like FPD and such are mainly white. Something just smells fishy about that.

If 2016 rolls along and neither republican nor democrats have ANYBODY worth voting for in the presidency, they both suck, why bother?

yes, I absolutely meant you. definitely. no purple font.

you and Cjrae have been going in on this topic about lazy and unmotivated, see my response to her about that above.

According to the Congressional Budget Office, social programs significantly raise the standard of living for low-income Americans, particularly the elderly. The poorest 20% of American households earn a before-tax average of only $7,600 - less than half of the federal poverty line. Social programs increase those households' before-tax income to $30,500. Social Security and Medicare are responsible for two-thirds of that increase.[24]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_programs_in_the_United_States

The hungry world only wishes they were impoverished in America.

What does that have to do with anything? Seriously. I don't give a damn what people from other countries think about our poor here in the US. That has absolutely zero relevance.

Come on swish - it doesn't take a boatload of money to run for town/city council. Not here, not in Ferguson.

Sure, it takes some printing costs (hey, bet there's a printing company that would donate that for a few mentions - or at least drop the price).

Or, if someone is serious - walk around, talk to citizens. Tell them your desires........word spreads.

Look, we're not talking about being the president here. We're not talking about the fed. senate or HOR. (those take money - real money). Plus, in a town/city that is 70% black....geesh, seems like a black person, had they put their name on the ballot, it seems like they'd have a darn good chance of being elected - doesn't it?

No, I won't accept excuses for people not voting in a town council election/city council election. That is simply tossing the blame on someone else in order to make someone say "golly........the man has me down and I can't get up."

MRAP's? Didn't many municipalities get them? Funded by the federal gov't./homeland security department?

What's the point of voting??????????? Vote for someone that represents YOU, and quit sitting back and crying "I'm a minority, I don't matter." If someone that represents YOU doesn't run, get active - find someone. Sitting on your butt (not you specifically, are we clear on that?) but sitting on your butt and blaming...dang, that's the lazy way.

Well I think that after all the crying I was seeing in this thread about the poor and impoverished in America, that a little balance was in order. How poor are the poor at $30,500 per year?

At this point, take minority out of it, they STILL don't have anybody running that represents their views.

So instead of changing that, it's easier to just piss and moan and blame others, right?

Was that MRAP owned by Ferguson? Or was it brought in due to the looting and rioting? I don't know, do you?

I don't. But when you do some research, and see that a lot of these little towns have MRAP's and NOTHING has gone on seriously, it makes you think.

So how do they change it? Enlighten us.

yes, I absolutely meant you. definitely. no purple font.

you and Cjrae have been going in on this topic about lazy and unmotivated, see my response to her about that above.

of course there are. But when we talk about minorities specifically on this board, that seems to be a very common theme that you and others like to throw out there.

DC posted something about why there was only so many who came out to vote, specifically because there was only 3 candidates, and all 3 were white.

I think it was only you that responded to that, and it went something along the lines of "well why didn't they get a black candidate in there".

Now, I'm no expert in politics, but It seems to be over the years that running for any office usually requires a boat load of money.

I don't see a city like Ferguson having someone thats a minority with that kind of cash.

On top of that, 3 white candidates, and all the agencies like FPD and such are mainly white. Something just smells fishy about that. Then add in the fact that this same police department had MRAP's, and I'm starting to think that there's a level of corruption going on.

But thats my weed-headed brain talking.

My sober side thinks it won't change in that city. Taking away the tin foil hat, If all i got is 3 white candidates to chose from, and none of them represent my interest, then.......

WHATS THE POINT OF VOTING?

Think about that Cjrae. If 2016 rolls along and neither republican nor democrats have ANYBODY worth voting for in the presidency, they both suck, why bother?