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Tomorrow is gonna be an interesting day. A lotta things happen at 4pm. Tomorrow is when all of our good FAs sign elsewhere...and we do nothing lol Odd still no tender news on Gibson, Robertson, Bademosi
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Tomorrow is gonna be an interesting day. A lotta things happen at 4pm. Yes it will be. Cecil Shorts to Cleveland  Don't want to be a buzzkill, but Shorts drops a ton ( a ton) of passes. Like Greg Little level case of the dropsies. I hope we don't sign him.
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Tomorrow is gonna be an interesting day. A lotta things happen at 4pm. Tomorrow is when all of our good FAs sign elsewhere...and we do nothing lol Odd still no tender news on Gibson, Robertson, Bademosi I expect Gibson and Robertson to be tendered. I wouldn't be shocked if the didn't tender Bademosi, but then tried to re-sign him at a lower salary.
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It sends a bad message when you let your home grown talent just walk. If you're going to be a build through the draft team, you MUST keep your guys. I would agree IF we were running the same schemes they were drafted to play. These homegrown guys have been through 3 regime changes since being drafted. - Sheard was drafted to be a 43DE. - Rubin's contract was extended to be a 43DT. Next year there will be some other homegrown players who will become FA who were drafted to play in a 43. Taylor, Winn, Hughes. And this is another major problem. You can only develop and keep your talent if you have some stability and continuity in scheme. Switching from the 3-4 to the 4-3 and back to the 3-4 only means you have a hodge podge of talent that doesn't fit. They weren't brought here to play the scheme they are playing in and their talents are best suited to play in a totally different D, and sometimes O. To me, that's why FA signings are more important for us than they are some other teams. If you've had the same type of D and a similar O in place, you can develop drafted players and draft players, that fit what you are doing. With a constant turnover in coaching, FO's and schemes, talent you drafted a few years ago don't even fit what you are running now, so that development simply doesn't work with a lot of the players that were drafted for other coaching groups. #1 rubin was drafted in 2009 as a 3/4 NT sheard? true enough but he was drafted to play the right side DE. he sucked at it and had to be moved to the left side to go up againts less capable RTs and RGs. his year under horton had him playing the best ball i ever saw him play. this year he was playing on a bum ankle and he still wasnt near as bad as people think. i saw enough of him as a 3/4 linebacker to know i would have liked to see more. all letting him go was make another hole that we have to fill. JMO
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If Sheard leaves and we sign someone (i.e. Trent Cole or Derrick Morgan), there is no hole.
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The Texans brought back quarterback Ryan Mallett earlier Monday, agreeing to a two-year, $7 million deal with the quarterback, a source told ESPN. Mallett's deal includes $1.75 million in guaranteed money, according to a source We gave McCown $6.25M guaranteed. I'd rather have Mallett.
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Tomorrow is gonna be an interesting day. A lotta things happen at 4pm. Tomorrow is when all of our good FAs sign elsewhere...and we do nothing lol Odd still no tender news on Gibson, Robertson, Bademosi I expect Gibson and Robertson to be tendered. I wouldn't be shocked if the didn't tender Bademosi, but then tried to re-sign him at a lower salary. I'm hoping that's the deal...just odd that its so late and still zero buzz about those guys...would hate to loose any of them with the amount of holes we still need filling... Hopefully things pick up here soon
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There is a 0% chance we let Gibson leave with no compensation.
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If Sheard leaves and we sign someone (i.e. Trent Cole or Derrick Morgan), there is no hole. so we have to bring some one in to replace him. that means a hole had to be filled. pretty simple huh?
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Trent Cole
Dan Williams (guy I badly want)
Cecil Shorts
Brian Hartline
Resign Gipson
All will be good in the world.
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I guess you are correct technically. But if the hole only existed for a few hours, is it really a hole?
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 Things do look pretty dire up there at guard.
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Trent Cole
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Cecil Shorts
Brian Hartline
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All will be good in the world. I agree about dan Williams. ...but from what I understand the redskins are going to be going after him hard
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Washington signed Paea, so that probably took them out of the Williams race.
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I would love to sign Dan Williams and Cecil Shorts tomorrow.
Shorts might not be a #1 or even a solid #2 but he would still be a great signing for depth and competition.
I also am curious to know if we're still in the running to sign Brian Hartline?
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People are going to be so pissed when Shorts drops a pass a game.
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Does anyone have an opinion on an OLB like Brian Orakpo? I really have not heard his name much. He's had a lot of injury history over the years so I'm not sure what kind of money he would demand, but him & Kruger together would be a nasty combination.
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Tomorrow is gonna be an interesting day. A lotta things happen at 4pm. Yes it will be. Cecil Shorts to Cleveland Don't want to be a buzzkill, but Shorts drops a ton ( a ton) of passes. Like Greg Little level case of the dropsies. I hope we don't sign him. Damn, this is why I really value the members of this forum. Had to do the research but yes... I'm ashamed to have been pimping him now. In 2013, the only person to have more drops was the nut head we had here, Davone Bass. I believe Shorts was targeted more than most WR which couldn't have helped the dropsies. For sure not as warm and fuzzy feeling regarding Shorts as I once had. Thanks man for the info.
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Does anyone have an opinion on an OLB like Brian Orakpo? I really have not heard his name much. He's had a lot of injury history over the years so I'm not sure what kind of money he would demand, but him & Kruger together would be a nasty combination. He plays Scrabble with Cavemen. He is injured often. I would take him on nothing more than a one year deal.
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Patriots not picking up $20 million option in Darrelle Revis' contract; now set to become free agent Tuesday. This was expected. Revis would be one helluva replacement for Skrine.
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People are going to be so pissed when Shorts drops a pass a game. Yeah, I don't think Shorts is very good either. Which is why I prefer Hartline to him. To that end, I'm sure we'll end up with Shorts.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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The Texans brought back quarterback Ryan Mallett earlier Monday, agreeing to a two-year, $7 million deal with the quarterback, a source told ESPN. Mallett's deal includes $1.75 million in guaranteed money, according to a source We gave McCown $6.25M guaranteed. I'd rather have Mallett. Would you rather have no one? Because that's who we'd have if we had waited till tomorrow, seeing as Mallett signed today.. Unless you wanted to trade for Cassell..
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The Texans brought back quarterback Ryan Mallett earlier Monday, agreeing to a two-year, $7 million deal with the quarterback, a source told ESPN. Mallett's deal includes $1.75 million in guaranteed money, according to a source We gave McCown $6.25M guaranteed. I'd rather have Mallett. Would you rather have no one? Because that's who we'd have if we had waited till tomorrow, seeing as Mallett signed today.. Unless you wanted to trade for Cassell.. We didn't negotiate with any of the already signed players because we got McCown. Matt Moore, Jake Locker, Michael Vick, and Christian Ponder are all still available. McCown was literally the last QB I wanted.
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Revis would be one helluva replacement for Skrine. Revis would make our defense elite. Teams wouldn't be able to pass on us. It would be fun for a year. Might even make us competitive next year.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Revis would be one helluva replacement for Skrine. Revis would make our defense elite. Teams wouldn't be able to pass on us. It would be fun for a year. Might even make us competitive next year. I would say there is almost no chance of it happening. It is fun to think about though.
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The only people that are actually allowed to negotiate are players and the team they were on..
And just because we signed McCown doesn't mean we still didn't talk to other QBs.
Maybe we called Mallett and they said he's going back to Houston..
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I agree with no chance of it happening but fun to think about.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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The only people that are actually allowed to negotiate are players and the team they were on.. Like Suh, Maclin, Gore, Odrick, Maxwell, and many more. . .
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Meh. Not a surprise. Good for him, now he can go sign with Indianapolis, Green Bay, Seattle or New England and enjoy some sustained success.
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Ew. Gresham has stone hands. Maybe a good blocker, but don't we already have Dray and Barnidge for blocking!? I would rather try and get Charles Clay or Niles Paul.
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Patriots not picking up $20 million option in Darrelle Revis' contract; now set to become free agent Tuesday. This was expected. Revis would be one helluva replacement for Skrine. Revis isn't going to trade in New England for Cleveland unless we make him the highest paid player in NFL history, and for a team not expected to compete for anything next year, that wouldn't make sense. It's certainly fun to think about though 
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The only people that are actually allowed to negotiate are players and the team they were on.. Like Suh, Maclin, Gore, Odrick, Maxwell, and many more. . . Yeah, pretty much. The NFL set up this "negotiation" period, but told teams they couldn't "offer" a contract.. Makes sense.
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The only people that are actually allowed to negotiate are players and the team they were on.. Like Suh, Maclin, Gore, Odrick, Maxwell, and many more. . . Players agents can start talking to other teams on March 7th I'm pretty sure, but they can't officially sign until tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. I wonder if we've reached out to anyone as of yet?
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My understanding was they simply couldn't negotiate directly with the player but could negotiate with their agent.
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