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I never saw this one coming.

Is Philly nuts?

We could all be wrong.



Also, The way I read it is the 2nd round pick from Philly is conditional. If they trade Bradford and he never plays for Philly, they get the pick back.



Incentive to move the guy IMO.



Strange stuff no doubt. Maybe turns in to #12 for Bradford and a 2nd rounder in 16.

The Browns were one. RT @SI_PeterKing: There were other teams, multiple, involved in the chase for Bradford.

Okay, we're going into the season with JM backup by McCown.

My continuing scenario is that Bradford will be used as bait for a move up trade to get Mariota.

This was a move long in the works. The Eagles eyed Rams quarterback Sam Bradford for weeks, and on Tuesday they made the move, acquiring Bradford in exchange for Nick Foles. Draft picks were involved. It was a huge move.

A former No. 1 overall draft pick (2010), Bradford's NFL career has been stunted by a lack of offensive talent around him early in his St. Louis tenure and by injuries late with the Rams. He played only seven games in 2013 after being pulled down on a run to the sidelines and tearing the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee and then missed all of 2014 when he was drilled in the pocket and tore the same ACL in the preseason opener.

An extremely talented quarterback who is 6-4 and 224 pounds, Bradford is able to make every throw from every position on the field. When the Eagles studied him -- and they did so very, very extensively before the trade -- they saw a quarterback with special accuracy, with touch, with a big arm. A quarterback who can get the ball out quickly, who can make fast, good decisions. Bradford is, the Eagles think, a classic pocket quarterback with just enough mobility to work the pocket well and keep plays alive.

And so a deal was done on Tuesday, one that brings to Philadelphia the quarterback that head coach Chip Kelly wants. He wanted Sam Bradford. He identified Sam Bradford as a special talent who can make this offense soar. It cost the Eagles Foles, and everyone wishes him the best of luck. It cost the Eagles a second-round draft pick in 2016 and a swap of picks in 2015 that is a difference of, roughly, 20 spots in the draft after compensatory picks are considered.

It is a gamble, no question about that. Kelly isn't afraid to make difficult, out-of-the-box decisions. But it is a gamble with a lot of upside because the Eagles think Bradford has the goods to be a franchise-type quarterback.

The misconception, perhaps, is that the offense the Eagles is one that we saw at Oregon, where the quarterback was mobile and a running threat. That's not what the Eagles are offensively. The Eagles can run the football effectively with their running backs -- and there is a need there that will be filled -- and their blocking scheme, and they need a quarterback who can be accurate, who can play tempo football and who can get the ball to the receivers -- a need position that the Eagles will address -- in a timely fashion down the field and in the short passing game.

Bradford, the Eagles feel, can do it all. He had his troubles in St. Louis throwing to the likes of Brandon Lloyd and Brandon Gibson and Danny Amendola and Austin Pettis and Lance Kendricks and Laurent Robinson and Greg Salas and Jared Cook and Tavon Austin. The Rams didn't have much other than Steven Jackson running the football to exhaustion working with a pretty bad offensive line.

And they had Bradford. And they pinned all of their hopes on him and just didn't give him much help as he absorbed 105 sacks in his first three seasons (42 games) and another 15 in the seven games he played in 2013 when Bradford threw 14 touchdown passes and four interceptions. Oh, and consider this: Bradford has five games (of 49 played) in which he has thrown multiple interceptions. Foles and Mark Sanchez combined for seven multiple-interception games last season alone.

That's the player the Eagles think they have acquired, a special talent with far more upside than they saw with Foles -- and no lack of respect for him. He was very productive here and everyone wishes Foles the best of luck in St. Louis -- or any other quarterback they saw in the market -- free agency or the draft. The Eagles, despite the overwhelming rush by the media and fans to think otherwise, were not going to move up, up, up in the draft and take Oregon's Marcus Mariota, the Heisman Trophy winner whom Kelly recruited. Nor did the Eagles feel their best option was to stay put and stick with Foles and extend his contract for the future.

Certainly, the deal hinges on Bradford remaining healthy and staying on the field for this offense. He had a concussion and some shoulder injuries at Oklahoma. He has the two ACL injuries and a shoulder injury in the NFL. Only twice in his five seasons has Bradford played a full 16 games.

The Eagles believe in their sports science program and their strength and conditioning program and they have the plan to put the right pieces around Bradford to help him stay healthy and make him more productive than he's been in his career.

That's why the Eagles did the deal, one on which they worked extremely hard and one that was, according to reports, off and on a couple of times -- at least -- in the last few weeks. They got the quarterback they wanted, one they think can be special in this offense. You may like the deal. You may not. You may have questions that just don't have answers right now, specifically how the Eagles will replace the production from departed running back LeSean McCoy and wide receiver Jeremy Maclin and the weapons Kelly and vice president of player personnel Ed Marynowitz will bring in between now and September. Fair enough.

Wins and losses will dictate the wisdom of this decision. It was gutsy, no doubt about it. But being gutsy and having conviction is why Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Lurie hired Kelly after the 2012 4-12 season. Twenty regular-season victories and a playoff appearance was a nice way to start Kelly's NFL head coaching career, but it wasn't the goal. Winning the whole thing is the objective, and the Eagles wanted the best quarterback they could get and Kelly wanted Bradford and then went out and made the deal.

Sam Bradford is the quarterback Kelly thinks can operate this offense to maximum efficiency. That's why he is an Eagle today.

My continuing scenario is that Bradford will be used as bait for a move up trade to get Mariota.

Philly may not be done.

I do not see how this helps Philly get Mariota. If anything, I think they are further away now than they were before the trade. I heard Philly gave up a future 2nd as well. That pick would do more for a move up than Bradford will. To get up to the top 5 or so, Philly needs a lot of ammo. Philly would need to be able to get really close without Bradford in order to get there with Bradford.

The Browns reportedly tried trading for Sam Bradford before he was shipped to the Eagles in the Nick Foles deal.

Despite coming off back-to-back ACL tears, there was a multi-team market for Bradford's services. The Philadelphia Inquirer is somewhat noncommittal, but tentatively expects the Eagles to keep Bradford and start him in 2015, as opposed to using Bradford as a trade chip to move up and draft Marcus Mariota. We'll believe Bradford is staying in Philly if the sides strike a restructured contract. Bradford's 2015 base salary of $12.985 million is entirely unreasonable for a player of his injury-riddled and largely ineffective pedigree.

Anyone believe Chip Kelly is not going to try to move up in the draft to get Mariota?

I don't....not anymore.

And I don't think the Browns are going to give a 1st/2nd rounder for a QB with an injury history, making $12M in the final year of his deal and will be a FA next year.

Think about it....if the Browns were willing to do that, Bradford would have been traded to us yesterday.

I agree, it is a huge risk for the Browns to give up a 1 & 2 for Bradford...

Bradford is a huge injury risk, based on his injury history.

The reason the deal for Bradford could not happen with the Rams...they needed a starting QB in exchange for Bradford. Obviously the Rams felt Foles would fill their needs, thus they dealt with the Eagles and not the Browns.

Also, I'm guessing that Bradfords contract get renegotiated down to a more reasonable level.

I agree, it is a huge risk for the Browns to give up a 1 & 2 for Bradford...

Bradford is a huge injury risk, based on his injury history.

The reason the deal for Bradford could not happen with the Rams...they needed a starting QB in exchange for Bradford. Obviously the Rams felt Foles would fill their needs, thus they dealt with the Eagles and not the Browns.

Also, I'm guessing that Bradfords contract get renegotiated down to a more reasonable level.

The starting QB thing could be true. Still in comparison to what you are afraid the Browns will do and what package the Eagles send over, I have a hard believing Foles > #12 or #19.

Again, I don't think it is a package the Browns are considering and even though I like Bradford, not at the price. To much future uncertainty to give up that much.

cant believe all the effort the eagles are going through just to try and trade bradford for johnny manziel!!!!

..and my fear is, it's the Browns giving up a first and second round pick to Philly for Bradford.

Chip Kelly says he thinks Marcus Mariota is the best QB on draft, but wants to "dispel" rumors. Says he won't mortgage the future.

Chip: I was offered a first round pick for Bradford this morning.

Chip: I was offered a first round pick for Bradford this morning.

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I find this hard to believe but if true I hope it wasn't from us.

I could see us offering pick #19 for Bradford and the Eagles second round pick. The overall point is this, if Kelly was trying to trade up for Mariota, he would take the pick. He didn't. Bradford is the Eagles QB.

For what it's worth, most people around the league seem to think Bradford is staying in Philadelphia.



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For what it's worth, most people around the league seem to think Bradford is staying in Philadelphia.



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