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Bowe (6-2, 221) has played in 118 games (112 starts) in eight NFL seasons with the Kansas City Chiefs (2007-14). His career numbers include 532 receptions for 7,155 yards (13.4 avg.) with 44 touchdowns. Bowe’s most productive season with the Chiefs came in 2010 when he tallied 72 catches for 1,162 yards (16.1 avg.) with 15 touchdowns. He started two postseason games with the club in 2010 and 2013, catching eight passes for 150 yards (8.8 avg.) and one touchdown. Bowe originally entered the NFL as the Chiefs first-round draft pick (23rd overall) in the 2007 NFL Draft. The Miami, Florida, native played collegiately at LSU and prepped at Norland Senior High School in Miami.


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I am not being an ass about this, but why not? Who is better than him on our current roster?

I am not even saying I want him, but the word "No" as an answer is not very educational.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I am not being an ass about this, but why not? Who is better than him on our current roster?

I am not even saying I want him, but the word "No" as an answer is not very educational.



I am not a big fan of Dwayne Bowe. Why, inconsistent! He has the size to be a nice red zone target but has not got it done in his career. He has better size and athletic ability than our receivers but his hands are not as good as what is currently on this roster.

With Hawkins, Gabriel, and now Hartline are all move the chains type players. I would say if we sign or draft any other receivers they need to go with big play ability types or big red zone targets.


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I agree and disagree, but that was well said.

Nice job.

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To be fair about Bowe, Man Alex smith just doesn't target his WR last year. Those poor dudes, got NO action.

I think he's one of those that just needs a change of scenery.

So why not? Bowe would give us instant respect at the very least.


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CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Browns "will be exploring" free agent WRs Dwayne Bowe and Stevie Johnson.

Cleveland has the worst receiver depth chart in the league with Brian Hartline sitting atop it as the default No. 1. Luckily, the Browns were able to lure TE Jordan Cameron back to town after he was greeted with a soft market. But they're not done adding bodies. Either Bowe or Johnson would be top dog out wide.


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Originally Posted By: Jester
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Browns "will be exploring" free agent WRs Dwayne Bowe and Stevie Johnson.

Cleveland has the worst receiver depth chart in the league with Brian Hartline sitting atop it as the default No. 1. Luckily, the Browns were able to lure TE Jordan Cameron back to town after he was greeted with a soft market. But they're not done adding bodies. Either Bowe or Johnson would be top dog out wide.


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I can see BOTH signing. They won't count against compensatory picks because they were both released.

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Facts:

1. Farmer was in KC when Bowe was drafted

2. Farmer preferably targets other team's cuts because he's trying hard to copy Ozzie who flat out owned him last offseason, making more out of less.

Opinion: The good part is that it's somewhat an acknowledgement that has been bad at his job compared to others. The bad is that he still has no evaluation skills to make it work and he's trying too hard to force this onto the Browns.

Conclusion: Farmer will go after Bowe....hard


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Bowe or Stevie would fit the mold of being a WR threat that was CUT (hence, we wouldn't lose supplemental pick)

I bet we pick one up


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What do we have to lose at this point? Even if we got Bowe, I still hope they draft a top WR. I know, I know, but I can dream right?

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Originally Posted By: Jester
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Browns "will be exploring" free agent WRs Dwayne Bowe and Stevie Johnson.

Cleveland has the worst receiver depth chart in the league with Brian Hartline sitting atop it as the default No. 1. Luckily, the Browns were able to lure TE Jordan Cameron back to town after he was greeted with a soft market. But they're not done adding bodies. Either Bowe or Johnson would be top dog out wide.


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Lol, I know my minions

Bowe and Stevie Johnson...both cuts, go figure.

Watch out! Mr Farmer has a plan. Here are the details:

Plan for the Browns to show Mr Haslam:

We sign only rejects from other teams so that we get 5th and 6th round comp picks 14 months from now, which I can then waste on projects from West Texas A&M and other hidden gems that take another two years to "maybe" contribute in some capacity. If not, who cares, we have a handful of those comp picks now. Also, I can keep text messaging the coaches to play my precious hand-picked prospect gems. If they catch us again, who cares? We have multiple 3rd day comp picks now to waste. That's playing it like a Brown, Jimmy. How does that sound?


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At least he has a plan. Most GM's we have had did not have a plan whatsoever!!!


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Wouldn't be too epic if we signed him, especially if it were anything of a large chunk of $. He'd instantly help the WR core though IMO. As suggested by the Great, Almighty Jason LaCanfora (lol) - we should at least be exploring and seeing what it'd take.

Even if we signed him, I'd still be looking for a WR in that first round.

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Banner had a plan. You guys just didn't like him even before he made a move.

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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg
At least he has a plan. Most GM's we have had did not have a plan whatsoever!!!


Only problem is, it's a plan that is a complete 180 from last offseason. Basically, they decided to start from scratch once again. Just with the same faces running it.

Last season they swapped Ward for Whitner and signed Dansby. They got older, made a couple of other win now moves. Then in the draft, they go project bananas, which made zero sense at the time and still doesn't 10 months from then.
Now another plan....

See when you switch "plans" like your underpants, the opinion forming in my head is that they either have no plan or have no clue how to implement it.


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You change your underpants 3 times/year? Eww! smile


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Banner had a plan. You guys just didn't like him even before he made a move.


I'll give him that. Problem was that had no talent evaluation skills and even worse people's skills. Go read his twitter page. He's like your twin brother: notoriously contrarian, constantly seeking attention, judgemental, constantly feeling misunderstood, carelessly dishing out punches but very sensitive when criticzed. A strange mix of inferiority complex and delusion of grandeur. No wonder you loved the guy. He was you in a GM job, lol

So what's left? A plan nobody wants to follow. Pure idiosyncrasy


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At least he has a plan. Most GM's we have had did not have a plan whatsoever!!!


Only problem is, it's a plan that is a complete 180 from last offseason. Basically, they decided to start from scratch once again. Just with the same faces running it.

Last season they swapped Ward for Whitner and signed Dansby. They got older, made a couple of other win now moves. Then in the draft, they go project bananas, which made zero sense at the time and still doesn't 10 months from then.
Now another plan....

See when you switch "plans" like your underpants, the opinion forming in my head is that they either have no plan or have no clue how to implement it.


I've got to admit I am scratching my head with this team. For well over ten years now. One bad decision after another. The only hope this franchise has is to find a QB that player can rally around. I do not see them having a chance to find that QB this year so let's tank the season for next years draft for Christain Hackeburg or Cardell Jones.


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And I am the abrasive one............LOL

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Bowe hasn't been good since 2011. I would only sign him for the minimum. Same with Stevie Johnson. He is better out of the slot and we already have Hawkins.

Hawkins, Gabriel, and Hartline are all better than both of these guys.

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Originally Posted By: Jester
You change your underpants 3 times/year? Eww! smile


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The Browns will/have talked to the agents for Johnson, Bowe, Crabtree and Shorts....interest varies, Browns not going to break the bank

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Hawkins, Gabriel, and Hartline are all better than both of these guys.


Bingo. Bowe and Johnson are legends in their own mind.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Bowe hasn't been good since 2011. I would only sign him for the minimum. Same with Stevie Johnson. He is better out of the slot and we already have Hawkins.

Hawkins, Gabriel, and Hartline are all better than both of these guys.

Bowe always seem frustrated in KC. I wonder if a different environment creates a change. Otherwise, I agree. I don't think he is anything special.

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The Browns will/have talked to the agents for Johnson, Bowe, Crabtree and Shorts....interest varies, Browns not going to break the bank

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I'm taking Crabtree out of those three. I doubt we would want to pay him what he thinks he is worth.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
And I am the abrasive one............LOL


Sorry Vers, really wasn't meant as an insult, although I realize it could be taken that way. My apologies if that was the case. I thought and think you're a good sport about it. In some way it's a compliment

Speaking of regime wars, TRich was released by the Colts today. In a strange twist of irony, Heckert's worst and Banner's best move in one player. And I hated the pick abd applauded the trade. But all three have one thing in common, they all busted at the end.


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I think we're covered at WR2 and the slot, I'd say we should draft WR1 at 12 or 19 in the first round.

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I think we're covered at WR2 and the slot, I'd say we should draft WR1 at 12 or 19 in the first round.


I agree. Unless there is some sort of high upside free agent that I am unaware of, we shouldn't sign anyone else.

I wouldn't mind having Miles Austin back at a reasonable price.

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The complete radio silence since shortly after his injury is saying to me that he's going to call it quits.

That, or the FO upgraded his spot and won't bring him back.

Either way, I don't see him on our opening day roster. Too bad, he always seemed like a really good guy.


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I don't really LIKE Dwayne Bowe, but I understand that we still need another veteran wide receiver. I think he could be a solid #1 receiver for another year or two as a rental.

I'm not sure we can land White, Parker or Cooper at #12.

Having Bowe, Hartline, Hawkins and Gabriel wouldn't be terrible.

I wouldn't over pay for Bowe, but if he would come here for a reasonable price, then sure.



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Bowe hasn't been good for years. And he's getting old. I don't see any point in signing him.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Bowe hasn't been good for years. And he's getting old. I don't see any point in signing him.



He caught 60 passes last year. I would still take that over Travis Benjamin, Miles Austin, Marlon Moore, Jim Dray and Gary Barnidge lining up on the outside at wide receiver.



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Originally Posted By: MrKelso
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Bowe hasn't been good for years. And he's getting old. I don't see any point in signing him.



He caught 60 passes last year. I would still take that over Travis Benjamin, Miles Austin, Marlon Moore, Jim Dray and Gary Barnidge lining up on the outside at wide receiver.


He had 60 catches because they had no one else at receiver.

You are right though, I would take him over all the guys you listed. But that would still make him our fourth wide receiver.

I amend my previous statement; I would take Dwayne Bowe on a very cheap, one year deal.

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Bowe hasn't been good for years. And he's getting old. I don't see any point in signing him.


Once he got paid, he disappeared. Pulled a "Shaun Alexander".


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Bowe hasn't been good for years. And he's getting old. I don't see any point in signing him.


Once he got paid, he disappeared. Pulled a "Shaun Alexander".


And he got paid off of basically one good year where he had 15 TDs (which is one of the most random stats in football).

Holmgren ran Alexander into the ground by the way. Dude averaged 330 carries over a five year span. He had 373 (!) carries in his MVP season.

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Bowe hasn't been good for years. And he's getting old. I don't see any point in signing him.


Once he got paid, he disappeared. Pulled a "Shaun Alexander".


And he got paid off of basically one good year where he had 15 TDs (which is one of the most random stats in football).

Holmgren ran Alexander into the ground by the way. Dude averaged 330 carries over a five year span. He had 373 (!) carries in his MVP season.


I did not know that....that is boat load of carries. I apologize to Shaun Alexander fans everywhere! laugh


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We have the money. I say try to bring in both bowe and stevie johnson on one or two year contracts. You know someone is going to get hurt. And as well as gabriel played I don't see him as a starter


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