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WR's.....Dwayne Bowe, Cecil Shorts, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson, Denarius Moore, Hakeem Nicks, Kenny Britt.
TE's.....Jermaine Gresham, James Casey.
CB's.....Patrick Robertson, Tramon Williams, Shareece Wright, Perrish Cox, Kyle Williams.
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We can still salvage this free agency period if we could land Dwayne Bowe, Perrish Cox and either Jermaine Gresham or Charles Clay.
Personally I'm hoping we can land Bowe & Clay.
Those two instantly make our skill players not look so bad...
Still not great, but a step up from last year (as Cameron missed most of last year anyway).
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Charles Clay still available at TE, although he has a transition tag @ $7M.
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I'd be happy about:
DL: Fairley, Ellis, *Big Snacks (even giving up the second... he's better than any nose tackle we could get at 12 anyways) WR: *Bowe, *S. Johnson, maybe Britt RB: *R. Bush (our OC says he wants to throw to RBs a lot)
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Charles Clay would be an ideal fit for this team. He's built like a TE but runs like an RB. He's a young, and very tough dude. I would gladly offer him a long term deal for very generous money. KFFL reported he visited Cleveland yesterday (or is set to today); they also stated the Browns were looking at Stevie Johnson and Dwayne Bowe. Again, crossing my fingers for Bowe & Clay. 
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I'm also curious to know if we've contacted Cecil Shorts III.
A few weeks ago it was reported their was mutual interest.
Signing Bowe, Clay AND Shorts III would actually give us a pretty respectable group of skill players.
Allows us to sure up the DL and OL early in the draft as well....
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Charles Clay still available at TE, although he has a transition tag @ $7M. transition tag has no impact on the Browns or any other team, outside of Miami
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Charles Clay still available at TE, although he has a transition tag @ $7M. transition tag has no impact on the Browns or any other team, outside of Miami I thought it meant we had to top their offer. Am I wrong about that? +$7M seems like a high price for Clay.
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I really don't want Clay. Miami could conceivably match, and if Clay signs with the Browns, the impact would be similar to trading Cameron plus a draft pick to the Dolphins for Clay. I can almost hear Grossi now ... 
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I really don't want Clay. Miami could conceivably match, and if Clay signs with the Browns, the impact would be similar to trading Cameron plus a draft pick to the Dolphins for Clay. I can almost hear Grossi now ... How would it involve a draft pick? That's not part of the equation.
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Clay has a franchise tag. I'm not saying that Miami would match, but as of yet, they have not removed Clay's tag.
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No, he has a "transition" tag...
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He has the Transition tag which requires no compensation.
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No, he has a transition tag, simply meaning the Dolphins can match any offer made to him, kind of like what we did with Mack last year. We don't have to fork over a draft pick to get him.
Clay would be an upgrade over Cameron because he can block, and he's a much better running. Cameron is just bigger.
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You getting slow on the trigger, dawg?  You also, Mr K...
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No harm, no foul. Better two replies than none (or three in this case)...
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McFadden went to Arkansas Jerry Jones went to Arkansas Jerry Jones likes McFadden.
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McFadden has shown he can be productive when healthy.
The Cowboys have the best offensive line in football.
This has come back player of the year written all over it.
IF McFadden stays healthy.
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NOT been following lately but did we lose AUSTIN also?
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I'd be happy about:
DL: Fairley, Cross him off the list.... Follow Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet #Rams signed DT Nick Fairley on a 1-year deal worth $5M base, source said. He can make up to $7.5M in incentives. A prove-it deal. Tweet
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Reading the (lack) of information, it seems that we lost Austin when he stayed at that hospital in Buffalo.
I don't know about you guys, but I haven't heard zip about the guy since that Buffalo game (he got hospitalized with a kidney issue from a hit, and stayed in the hospital long after the team flew back to Cleveland.
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Yeah after Austin got hurt I forgot all about him
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@Rand_Getlin · 3m 3 minutes ago
Source: The # Saints are in the process of trading WR Kenny Stills to the Miami # Dolphins.
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And now the Saints are acquiring... Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter Saints reached agreement with former Bills RB CJ Spiller. Saints backfield getting crowded: Spiller, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson. More on the Stills trade... ProFootballTalkVerified account @ProFootballTalk Saints trade young and cheap (Kenny Stills) for old and expensive (Dannell Ellerbe) and a third-rounder http://wp.me/p14QSB-9JlT Tweet 1 Tweet 2
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Seems like we're the least active team on all fronts right now
Pittsburgh and us
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Can someone shed some light on what the Saints are trying to accomplish?
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Can someone shed some light on what the Saints are trying to accomplish? It looks like a teardown / rebuild to me. I'm starting to think Brees might really be available.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/23/2015-top-free-agents-cornerbacks/Perrish Cox 2014 Grade: +1.2 2014 Snaps: 965 Cox has always been a beguiling talent. He’s long enough, athletic enough and skilled enough to be one of the better corners in the league, but has struggled to convert that natural talent into playing time and production. Of his five seasons as a pro, Cox has been a significant contributor for just two of them, the first as a rookie with the Broncos in 2010, and then this past year in San Francisco. Between those two seasons, Cox bounced between teams and made little impact. Cox began 2014 in good form, he was our seventh ranked cover corner after nine weeks, allowing a 48.9% completion rate, and holding passers to a 42.3 QB rating. However he struggled down the stretch, with those figures rising to 61.5% and 78.0, respectively. He’s shown enough to merit starting somewhere in 2015, but not enough to warrant a true starters contract. ---------------------------------- Sounds like a more inconsistent version of Skrine
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Can someone shed some light on what the Saints are trying to accomplish? So they've accumulated two firsts, one second, and two thirds? Brees' eventual replacement?
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we have our first round QB we traded up for waiting in the wings. A rehab with wings?
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Reading the (lack) of information, it seems that we lost Austin when he stayed at that hospital in Buffalo.
I don't know about you guys, but I haven't heard zip about the guy since that Buffalo game (he got hospitalized with a kidney issue from a hit, and stayed in the hospital long after the team flew back to Cleveland. Miles Austin hopes to return to Cleveland next season Nearly two weeks removed from a scary lacerated kidney injury, Austin has returned to the facility to attend practice and be a part of meetings. “I’m more or less here for support,” said the 30-year-old Austin, who chooses to be in the building even though it’s not required. “It’s good to be around and still be able to help the guys however I can.” http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...d7-c890d44ad0b5he is like sheard skrine and rubin. they dont play like a brown so he wont be back.
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WAS in Cleveland. Today he's visiting the Titans.
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I'm not convinced Cox could hold off Gilbert. Hopefully if we land a CB it's a one year prove it deal.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/23/2015-top-free-agents-cornerbacks/Perrish Cox 2014 Grade: +1.2 2014 Snaps: 965 Cox has always been a beguiling talent. He’s long enough, athletic enough and skilled enough to be one of the better corners in the league, but has struggled to convert that natural talent into playing time and production. Of his five seasons as a pro, Cox has been a significant contributor for just two of them, the first as a rookie with the Broncos in 2010, and then this past year in San Francisco. Between those two seasons, Cox bounced between teams and made little impact. Cox began 2014 in good form, he was our seventh ranked cover corner after nine weeks, allowing a 48.9% completion rate, and holding passers to a 42.3 QB rating. However he struggled down the stretch, with those figures rising to 61.5% and 78.0, respectively. He’s shown enough to merit starting somewhere in 2015, but not enough to warrant a true starters contract. ---------------------------------- Sounds like a more inconsistent version of Skrine Skrine had a negative rating with Pro Football Focus. So going be their standards, which I trust, Cox was better than Skrine last year.
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Harvin to the Bills Bills are going all in. Too bad their coach is Rex Ryan and their QB is Matt Cassell.
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