|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,248
Legend
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,248 |
Not sure I'm going to get sleep tonight ... What a game! 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284 |
Kinda makes you miss the good ol days of Samardo, Eyenga, Harangody and Joey Graham
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,248
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,248 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284 |
Kyrie playing the way he did had to make Lebron feel confident. He knows he can trust Kyrie in crunch time.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,341 Likes: 98
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,341 Likes: 98 |
great game, I turned over after the Buckeyes won and enjoyed every minute 
John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,349
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,349 |
Kyrie playing the way he did had to make Lebron feel confident. He knows he can trust Kyrie in crunch time. Kyrie playing the way he did had to make Lebron feel confident. He knows he can trust Kyrie in crunch time. Yeah, because he doesn't trust himself. People try to put Lebron in the same breath as Jordan, while Lebron continues to be a decoy when his team needs a buzzer beater, just like in Miami
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635 |
Irving just ridiculous. Just flat out ridiculous. The shots he was throwing down in OT I mean, wow! What else can you say about that? Very entertaining game!!! Suspense was on edge throughout the entire game.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,445
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,445 |
Wow, I can't believe the Cavs won last night! I watched bits and pieces of it and turned it off when Danny Green hit the corner three in the 4th Q that put the Spurs up by 9 or so.
I love Kawhi's game. He is just so well-rounded, so coachable, and makes LBJ work so hard to get even contested shots. That was something great to watch in the Finals, not so great to watch last night but that guy does not get nearly enough credit for being a great player.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284 |
I just love that we have 3 guys who can get the "tough as hell baskets" if we need them to.
That's talent.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,445
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,445 |
I just love that we have 3 guys who can get the "tough as hell baskets" if we need them to.
That's talent. Yeah LeBron and Irving are playing great and J.R. Smith has really stepped up his game since coming here from the Knicks.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 |
J.R. Smith has really stepped up his game since coming here from the Knicks. In what way?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,003 Likes: 370
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,003 Likes: 370 |
J.R. Smith has really stepped up his game since coming here from the Knicks. In what way? Defensively, in one way. He has also been a great teammate since joining the Cavaliers.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,398 Likes: 280
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,398 Likes: 280 |
It was a great game but it highlighted the Cavs biggest problem. The Spurs played a solid but not great game, the Cavs as a team played a solid but not great game... and it took an epic performance by Kyrie just to force OT... Kyrie would make a tremendously tough contested shot and the Spurs would go down and move the ball around and get a layup.... If we're honest with ourselves, what the Spurs did is far more sustainable and they will win that game 9 out of 10 times. Which is going to be the Cavs problem once the playoffs start, you can't count on epic individual performances to win playoff games.... at least not 4 out of 7. I think they can win the first couple series they will have on talent alone, but after that, if they can't play a little more team ball and get some easier looks, it's going to be tough.
I still think this team relies way too much on individual talent, beating a man one on one, and shooting contested 3s..
yebat' Putin
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 |
J.R. Smith has really stepped up his game since coming here from the Knicks. In what way? Defensively, in one way. He has also been a great teammate since joining the Cavaliers. So now he's only horrible, instead of atrocious. I think he is better than he was on the Knicks, but not by much.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,248
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,248 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,248
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,248 |
It was a great game but it highlighted the Cavs biggest problem. The Spurs played a solid but not great game, the Cavs as a team played a solid but not great game... and it took an epic performance by Kyrie just to force OT... Kyrie would make a tremendously tough contested shot and the Spurs would go down and move the ball around and get a layup.... If we're honest with ourselves, what the Spurs did is far more sustainable and they will win that game 9 out of 10 times. Which is going to be the Cavs problem once the playoffs start, you can't count on epic individual performances to win playoff games.... at least not 4 out of 7. I think they can win the first couple series they will have on talent alone, but after that, if they can't play a little more team ball and get some easier looks, it's going to be tough.
I still think this team relies way too much on individual talent, beating a man one on one, and shooting contested 3s.. To be fair, the Cavs have still really only been together (in their present form) for about 2 and a half months. They will move the ball around, but when it gets to crunch-time, they fall into the comfort of going ISO ... frankly, because they have two of the best ISO players in the game. I'm a little more concerned about them giving up open looks on defense. Hopefully they will continue to improve on both facets as the season goes on.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,615 Likes: 500
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,615 Likes: 500 |
Kyrie is my favorite player. I went to bed thinking they wouldn't win. Wish I had stayed up.
No Craps Given
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 16,775 Likes: 404
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 16,775 Likes: 404 |
LeBron is a huge problem right now. Too much ISO dribbling and trying to play one on one ball.
He's supposed to be setting an example. I guess he is, but the wrong one.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,445
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,445 |
J.R. Smith has really stepped up his game since coming here from the Knicks. In what way? It was meant more as a joke than as a sincere basketball analysis. warning: am going to make my already lame joke even less funny by explaining it Candy made a comment about having three players who can get tough as hell baskets in an obvious reference to Lebron, Irving, and Love. I agree with the first two being able to get tough as hell baskets but as I mostly see Love being used as a stretch four who gets many uncontested shots due to playing with James and Irving and being part of nonarchaic offensive system, I don't really see Love getting many tough looks. J.R. Smith is obviously not at the level of any of those three players but he does create and hit some tough shots (it would obviously be ideal if he missed less shots as well but I don't think he has been terrible.)
Last edited by hasugopher; 03/13/15 07:35 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,025 Likes: 1
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,025 Likes: 1 |
Watching Tony Parker try to check Kyrie Irving last night was downright laughable.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 16,775 Likes: 404
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 16,775 Likes: 404 |
Watching Tony Parker try to check Kyrie Irving last night was downright laughable. It was a bit laughable the other way as well. Bottom line, it was two great players going at each other and getting theirs. Sometimes that's just the way it goes. I am more happy than anything that Kyrie kept coming back at him and took the challenge personally. Didn't back down at all. Didn't hang his head when Parker was schooling him.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,003 Likes: 370
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,003 Likes: 370 |
J.R. Smith has really stepped up his game since coming here from the Knicks. In what way? Defensively, in one way. He has also been a great teammate since joining the Cavaliers. So now he's only horrible, instead of atrocious. I think he is better than he was on the Knicks, but not by much. In what way do you think that he is "atrocious"?
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 |
Defensively with the Knicks J.R. Smith was atrocious. He didn't even try and is not good defensive player to start out with. Now he at least tries, but is still not good.
Smith is the same player, he is just surrounded by players who can cover up his mistakes/not let him shoot the ball.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,003 Likes: 370
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,003 Likes: 370 |
Smith has often been the best, or 2nd best defender on the court for the Cavaliers.
He has improved in steals, turnovers, points scored, and rebounds since joining the Cavaliers from the Knicks.
Smith is actually 1st in steals/game with the Cavaliers, by a large margin. He is playing his butt off on defense. He gets after his man, and even plays solid help defense. He has bought completely in to the defensive concepts and is a huge reason why our defense has improved so much since he, Mozgov, and Shumpert joined the team in those 2 amazing trades.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 |
I agree that he is trying hard. That doesn't mean he is good.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,259
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,259 |
Could be worse... we could have Larry playing at the 2... ;P
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 51,494 Likes: 728
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 51,494 Likes: 728 |
I agree that he is trying hard. That doesn't mean he is good. good enough that our team completely changed for the better when him and Mosgov came. That's all that matters.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284 |
I like Jr Smith and appreciate what he's given us, but damn. Could you imagine a guy like Kyle Korver just camping at the 3 point line? Kyrie and Lebron attacking the rim would be giving Korver basically layups at the 3 point line. Not trying to disrespect Milsap and Teague, but Lebron and Kyrie are different beasts.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,025 Likes: 1
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,025 Likes: 1 |
I like Jr Smith and appreciate what he's given us, but damn. Could you imagine a guy like Kyle Korver just camping at the 3 point line? Kyrie and Lebron attacking the rim would be giving Korver basically layups at the 3 point line. Not trying to disrespect Milsap and Teague, but Lebron and Kyrie are different beasts. That's very similar to what the Heat ran with Lebron and Wade. Surround yourself with shooters. Allen, Posey, Jones, Miller, etc... I think that's probably why Love has been around the perimeter so much. Hard for LBJ and KI to do damage when Mozgov + defender and Love + defender are clogging the lane.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,025 Likes: 1
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,025 Likes: 1 |
Another great Cavs W today. Kyrie's streak of 3 pointers hit 11 (from Thursday night) he finally missed about halfway through.
I'm just so impressed with how he's carried himself. He knew he was scorching hot, but he didn't press the issue. No heat checks, no ridiculous shots 2 seconds after crossing half court. He shot his threes when it was the right play. He never stops doing what he does best, and what seems to be better than anyone else, and that's driving the lane.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,003 Likes: 370
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,003 Likes: 370 |
Love got today off to rest his cranky back, and the team didn't miss a beat. I hope that we can find rest for him during the rest of the season, so that he can be as close to 100% for the playoffs as possible.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635 |
Rough first quarter, but thereafter we were playing good ball. Delabadova(sp) is getting comfortable launching that three ball as of late. Good win!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284 |
Shot almost 60% and 51% from 3.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,398 Likes: 280
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,398 Likes: 280 |
Kyrie's streak of 3 pointers hit 11 (from Thursday night) he finally missed about halfway through. And that was a bad shot. Should have never been taken, too early in the shot clock for a well contested off-balance 3 point attempt.
yebat' Putin
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635 |
Looking like LBJ did indeed injure himself, or is very sore, when he hurt himself yesterday. His knee did indeed get underneath him when falling.
Hopefully it's nothing serious and really would like to see the King in tonight's lineup against his old team.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284 |
Miami is shooting a bunch of midrange jumpers. You can't ask for anything better than that. They're making them, but you definitely live with it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635 |
If Double T keeps hitting those jumpers, it'll be a good night for him!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 51,494 Likes: 728
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 51,494 Likes: 728 |
EEWWWWWW that mosgov dunk!!!!!
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635 |
EEWWWWWW that mosgov dunk!!!!! Freaking sick! Count the and one to boot! THROWING THE HAMMER DOWN!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284 |
Heat are outshooting us 61% to 37% and we're only down 5. Yeah, we're fine.
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum NBA/Cavs Discussion III
|
|
