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Johnny per reports, attempting to negotiate with doctors for his release sooner rather than later, plays the break up card.

Wasn't she still posting a bunch of stuff on the social medias about going out and drinking etc, while her dude was in rehab?

Seems like a nice girl.

Just me, but I hope they keep the kid for however long before they are fully confident he's been remedied of whatever drug(s) issues he has. He's no use as a player or teammate until he gets himself straightened out.

JMO

...wasn't a problem for Johnny until a proposed 4/1/15 discharge date came and went perhaps.

He checked himself in.

He can leave whenever he wants.

Actually he wasn't ordered by a court system or whatever, so technically I think he can check himself out if he truly wanted outta there. Not 100% on that.

Edit, didn't see the post above. My bad.

"He checked himself in.

He can leave whenever he wants."

Don't be so sure.

I think you're underestimating the power of medical doctors.

I think if a couple doctors deem you a danger to yourself or others (and drug/alcohol problems could qualify), you could be held against your will and it would take a hearing before a judge to regain your freedom.

He's famous though.

Famous people don't go to the same kind of rehab you or I would go to.

I didn't see anything in the article saying he was negotiating his release.

I didn't watch the entire video that was posted in it because that dude ain't nobody.

I was thinking the same thing. It was only about his girlfriend.

"Famous people don't go to the same kind of rehab you or I would go to."

That's true ThatGuy.

But remember when they locked up Kris Kringle and he was held during his competency hearing?

And he wasn't doing drugs or drinking. (probably)(maybe)

I wonder how he broke up with her ... did he use "Its not you, its me."? Or did he say "Sorry baby, its either you or football, so ... see ya.".

Shes very attractive.. I can see where she'd be a distraction. Clearly, if she wanted "her man" to succeed, she'd do what all loving spouses (significant others) do, and that's provide support. Don't add to the problem.

Yeah, she's very attractive, but so are hundreds other women who would love to take her place, and would do whatever it takes to keep that meal ticket.

You watch too much TV,it doesn't work like that in the real world.
He voluntarily walked in he can walk out the same way at any time.

I'm not certain about that. As someone else may have mentioned......he can check in - but if the doc's feel he's a danger to himself or others, I believe they can keep him.

Now, if he checked himself in and the doc's feel he's NOT a danger, he can walk out anytime, no doubt about that. But, I'm not an attorney, or a doctor.

Or deemed as leaving AMA then assuming full responsibilty of cost indured.

Let's take for example the nurse that6 was supposed to be quarantined because of Ebola.
She went on her merry way and nothing could be done about it.
You cannot be detained,without a court order,no matter what a bunch of quacks say.
With the money and lawyers that the Manziel's have,it's not going to happen.He can walk out any time he pleases.

I'm still waiting to see where it says Manziel is trying to leave rehab in the first place. . .

What needs to be broken off is someone's foot in Johnny's behind.

That's some high end music on the video at the bottom of that page. The lyrics are about as trashy as they get.

He would have to be in a psych ward for that.
At most, the docs can recommend he stay - and let's face it, this is a rehab - they likely are NOT doctors there at all. They probably have one on staff or on retainer, or a working relationship with one that visits from time to time or something, but the people that run rehabs on a daily basis are not doctors.

In any case, in the absence of a court order compelling him to be there, all he'd have to do (at most) is agree to be released "Against Medical Advice" and sign his name and he's outta there.

by BCbrownie:

"You watch too much TV,it doesn't work like that in the real world.
He voluntarily walked in he can walk out the same way at any time."

Wow.. Ummm... Apparently, I'm not sharing the same "real world" as you.

Two medical doctors can have you "hospitalized" tomorrow. Whether you want to go or not.

If you don't go, the police will take you there and if need be, you will be restrained. And you can't "voluntarily walk out". You don't even need to check into rehab.

You really don't believe that?

So, this thread is basically about a 22 year old breaking up with his girlfriend. Fun stuff.

Thanks for the misleading first post berea!

Read the post above yours.

I'm fairly certain you have to have a court order to be forced into rehab. It is not as simple as a Dr saying you should be there.

If you voluntarily go to rehab, you can leave anytime you want. Even against Dr opinion.

None of this is any of our business.

I'm the first person to rip him when he publicly acts like a moron, but that's usually because he's stupid enough to provide first hand evidence.

If he leaves rehab early and gets snapped drinking a Mai Tai next to a disease-ridden Pi Phi at a Vegas pool, then let's rip him.

Until then, let's let him be. Speculation is one thing...gossip rumors about what a love interest's cryptic social media posts means borders on TMZ.

Not saying not to discuss it...this is the forum for it. Just offering my opinion on it.

My number one worry for Manziel was when he left rehab she would drag him down the same path.He surrounds himeself with the right people and he can make it both off and on the field. Sounds like he is really trying to get his act together.

Berea get back under your bridge. Dawgs don't let this fool troll you.

I'm not talking about "keeping the meal ticket", I'm talking about love.. True and everlasting. Yeah, I know, to many that's just a pipe dream.

But if someone loves him, she would would want what's best and will do what all good spouses or SO's do and that's stand by them.

Anyone looking for a meal ticket is the WRONG one.

An AA mantra is to stay around dry people and dry places.

In other words, if you have a drinking problem don't make a lush, party girl your significant other because eventually you'll join in with her.

And don't hang around bars drinking Coca-Cola because eventually you'll have an alcoholic drink and be back on that journey again.

Dumping the lush, party-girl girlfriend shows me he is beginning to understand what is important and what he needs to stay away from.

I think your kinda making my point for me (which, btw, was tongue in cheek). If she loved him, she would be supporting him, not out partying without him. Therefor, no matter what she looks like, she is wrong for anyone trying to get/stay sober. As for women looking for a meal ticket...just about any woman he meets will, to some degree, be attracted to him for his fame and fortune, it is an inevitable by-product of fame and fortune.

As someone who has had a family member forcibly put into a mental hospital I can tell you that whether you go of your own free will or not if 2 or more doctors say you need to stay then you will never leave till they say so.

Rehab comes with psychological examination in most states. They can and will incarcerate you if they feel they need to.

Johnny was said to have issues with rage. He had drug and alcohol problems too. It is very possible with that combo of issues that he could be held indefinitely if those issues actually exists outside of news reports.

All we know is he checked in but can't check out at this point =)

Welcome to the Hotel California....

No, all we know is that he checked in.

There is absolutely nothing out there to corroborate any claims of "can't check out".

LOL As long as check out is not against medical advice so Ray can win the future press conference. Hopefully the rush through the 12 acute steps to expedite a medically approved discharge will not come at the expense of truly accepting the steps for the young man.

Uh, unless Johnny committed a felony or is under a court order, that's not how it works. Especially not at rehab.

Now if you are there for mental issues, like perhaps Johnny tried to kill himself, sure he would have to be locked up, but I believe the legal allowance for something like that is roughly a week before they have to continue showing proof to the court.

Since it's not likely that something like that has happened, he's free to leave AMA any time he wishes.

by Thebigbaddog:

"that's not how it works."

You guys are too much.

I've seen a delusional alcoholic bound by their wrists and ankles to a hospital bed. They were going through very nasty withdrawal (Delirium Tremens).

They weren't going anywhere. There was no AMA (against medical advice). They had no clue where they were. They couldn't be released.

They did not commit a felony.

They were not under a court order.

They were a friend of mine with a very serious drinking problem.

By the way they have a very interesting new restraining device.

The hospital bed, with the patient bound to it, is enveloped in what looks like mosquito netting.

Except that the netting is made of a very strong polymer.

And the zipper is on the outside.