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Are there people who honestly think that, anyway?

Here's one. Me. Perhaps you don't take things that way......?

And dang, I'm a white dude that doesn't smoke pot, and I'm a Christian to boot! Imagine that!!!

encouragement from dozens of people (many who don't like you).

Here's one. Me. Perhaps you don't take things that way......?

And dang, I'm a white dude that doesn't smoke pot, and I'm a Christian to boot! Imagine that!!!

Why are you praying to God if you did everything by yourself?

What??? Where did I say that??

You are saying you do not believe in the phrase "You didn't build that" correct or "No one achieves anything alone"?

I guess it depends on how we're reading Swish's post.

No one ever achieves anything alone.

I will always disagree with this thought. When I was a child in school, I was a good student. Was that because the teacher was a great teacher? No, it was because I was smart. I learned because I wanted to learn, and I did much of it totally by myself.

When I was in school learning my trade, I paid money for that. I was taught the same curriculum everyone else was, but I had the drive to make something of myself through what I was taught.

When I was in my first job based on the training that I had, did I settle for the role they wanted for me? No, I pushed myself to learn more so I could have more options on what I could do with my life.

Now, you say that no one achieves anything alone, but that statement is wrong in its conception. I have achieved what I wanted because I had the drive to do it. I learned what I needed and wanted because of that drive. I have made myself into what I wanted to be. No one pushed me to become who I am. Were other people there along they way? Obviously, but they didn't make me who I am. I did that through my own choices and desires.

I understand what you say and certainly your being smart, and driven has added greatly to your success... but someone had to give you that job so you could excel.

By your own admission... "most" of your education success was on your work... not all.. so someone aided you along the way.

Until which time we operate in a vacuum, away from all outside influences,.. can we ever deny we are not acting alone?

Secondly, no one 'gave' me a job. I convinced someone I was worth hiring to fill a position of need, and that I was the best person for them to hire.

I will always disagree with this thought. When I was a child in school, I was a good student. Was that because the teacher was a great teacher? No, it was because I was smart. I learned because I wanted to learn, and I did much of it totally by myself.

When I was in school learning my trade, I paid money for that. I was taught the same curriculum everyone else was, but I had the drive to make something of myself through what I was taught.

When I was in my first job based on the training that I had, did I settle for the role they wanted for me? No, I pushed myself to learn more so I could have more options on what I could do with my life.

Now, you say that no one achieves anything alone, but that statement is wrong in its conception. I have achieved what I wanted because I had the drive to do it. I learned what I needed and wanted because of that drive. I have made myself into what I wanted to be. No one pushed me to become who I am. Were other people there along they way? Obviously, but they didn't make me who I am. I did that through my own choices and desires.

Not even Kanye West is this egotistical...

And now we all know you're full of crap.

Are you employed? Did you get the job because the employer thought you were the best for the job, or were you given the job because they felt sorry for you?

Well, you could start by thanking your parents for bringing you into this world, otherwise, none of that other stuff happens. So I guess you didn't do it alone.

I convinced them I was the best for the job. They still gave me the job. I deserved it, but they still gave it to me. I didn't take it. Look, I know that you might think the world revolves around you, but it doesn't.

You may as well say we can never act alone, because we are never really alone. Secondly, no one 'gave' me a job. I convinced someone I was worth hiring to fill a position of need, and that I was the best person for them to hire. As for the education, teachers teach, but they can't make someone learn. That is up to the student.

I guess one will have to live on a completely deserted island to be able to claim "I did this myself", but someone had something to do with them getting to that island, right?

still a job was available... what of the people that ran the company that hired you... their success at the business was what opened the position in the first place... without their success that job would not have been available.

Life will be easier once you realize that Eric created himself on the 7th day.

8th day. The creator and I had problems agreeing to the length of a standard terra week. Please learn to spell.

What creator? You did everything by yourself. Remember?

I only claimed to have created myself, but please continue to take things out of context, as you so often do. You might have also noted that I was being sarcastic and sardonic, but I doubt that.

Yes, that job was available, and they hired me as they saw me as the best way to continue their success. So, did they give me the job, or have I contributed to their continued success? You could almost say they owe me, which is why they pay me nicely. As I have said before, they didn't give me anything. They gave themselves a way to continue making money, though my assistance. I earn my continued place there everyday through my hard work.

Then you're using things someone else created? So you didn't build that.

Really? You didn't actually create yourself? I'm in shock! Everything I know is lie! How will I go on living?

By the by, since you lack self awareness, I doubt you'll be able to pick up that sarcasm even when it's hamfisted like that -- so, for the record, that was sarcasm.

You're arguing a joke? You must lead a terribly small life. If I were you, I'd start questioning my own self worth, as it appears you have none. In fact, your self worth is obviously so low, that you are unhappy unless everyone else's is a low as yours.

CONTINUED success implies it was enjoyed prior to your being there without said success no job available , so again you build on what others have done.

BTW not sure I buy that creator thing... Now if you were created on the 8th day how did you have a discussion with him about how long the week should be? you spoke before you were?

On the 2nd point first, time is a paradoxical illusion of physics. Deal with it.

On the first point 2nd, success leads to stagnation, stagnation leads to failure. Their success is based on my success, so you could also say I have continued and perpetuated their growing prosperity. This is due to my knowledge for the part I do at work, which I worked very hard to obtain. I determined problems that they had, which a new viewpoint was able to pick out. I advised my company to make certain changes, which would improve their business model. Therefore, their success is my success, which is their success again. Think of it as a symbiotic relationship.

Once again, they didn't give me anything. We made an agreement with each other to improve each other and keep each other going.

Wait you can not invoke Zenos Paradox...that implies someone else did something and now your entire argument is dismissed.