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No they didn't go out and sign Julius Thomas.. Or Clay..

But they brought in another guy, like Starks, Williams, Bowe.. Professional guys that will do their job..

But can also be easily replaced if an upgrade comes..

I have no problem in letting Cameron walk. I hope he has a nice career, and by nice, I mean.. He is able to choose when it ends, and doesn't have to leave it.. But I didn't really want to worry about him taking another hit and being gone..

Meh.

Still would like TE depth addressed, including the starting job. If Housler suprises....great, all the better.

Barnidge and Dray were great additions. Will see how this one works.

+ 1 on that, not "superstars", but reliable and beyond serviceable.

Welcome to Cleveland!!!

Not a bad signing. He did well a few seasons ago before Palmer got hurt last year. This gives us a stop gap for a year and prevents us from overreaching for Maxx Williams at 19. If he's there in the 2nd I take him but this allows us to take an O'Leary or Heuerman later in the draft and let them develop for a year.

I love this signing. he was a square peg in a round hole in Arian's offense in Arizona. He is not a great, or even god blocker, but he is an excellent athlete, has plus speed and hands for the position, along with great height. He should be a very good target down the seam, and in the red zone.

I really like this signing a lot.

was he cut by zona? wondering how signing him will impact our compensatory pick strategy

On a one year deal, I doubt much..

If it's $2.4 million or lower, it doesn't affect our comp picks due to it cancelling out the Philly Miles Austin signing. If it is $2.5 to $3.9 millions, it cancels the Rubin 6th and we instead get the Austin 7th.

So depending on the amount he signs for, we either have 4, 5, 5, 6 or 4, 5, 5, 7.

Glad we signed Housler.

Athletic, under used guy who might be able to raise some eyebrows here in Cleveland if someone can get him the ball on a regular basis.

I also like this because it frees up an early draft pick making tightend less of a priority.

Draft a NT, Edge pass rusher, RT, WR and QB and I think our roster will look much better going into 2015 than it did going into 2014...

Good pick-up. He is a healthy Jordan Cameron. There really isn't much of a drop off in talent between the 2.

Now we can wait and draft Huerman from tOSU in the 3rd-4th rd.

Quality-wise, I see the Cameron/Housler "swap" as a wash. We do however, benefit from a lesser injury risk and saved a pile of money. A solid, but unspectacular move by Farmer...

i'[ll take singles and doubles all day long. I'm sick of swinging for the fences and striking out.

What's left?

You nailed two needs. A real NFL fullback (Jaleston Fowler out of Alabama would be nice) and a kicker to at the very least compete with Hartley.

Other than the obvious franchise QB I would say that nose tackle and edge rusher both remain extremely important.

There is no such thing as a bad one year deal.

I don't know, if they signed me for a year for $1M, the Browns would clearly be wasting their money...not that I'd complain.

Quality wise it's a wash? How so?

Neither can block, bout Housler had 9 catches in 15 games last year.

Cameron had 24 in 10 games.

The year before Housler had 39 in 13 games.

Cameron had 80 in 15 games.

How is that a wash in regards to quality?

Deceitful.

Both have similar attributes. Number of catches? Perhaps Housler will have more balls thrown his way this season. Deceitful? You behaved yourself very nicely yesterday, but it looks like you are back to normal. And you are the one who constantly complains about being attacked... And I suppose you want a link...

Arians likes to use his TE as blockers first, and receivers 2nd.

Here is an ESPN article about Housler, and his time in Arizona. He was just a poor fit in Arians' offense. I think that he will fit our offense, similar to the way we used Cameron last year.

Arizona Cardinals' unrestricted free agents: Rob Housler - Arizona Cardinals Blog - ESPN
http://espn.go.com/blog/arizona-cardinal...nts-rob-housler

My look at the Arizona Cardinals' list of unrestricted free agents continues with an athletic tight end who didn’t fit the Cards’ offensive scheme

Next up: Rob Housler, TE

Reason to re-sign: It took him 75 percent of the season, but Housler started showing signs of progressing as a tight end in the final four games, catching 53 of his 129 yards after Week 13. That production may carry over into 2015, but he may not get a chance to show it. Housler’s athleticism always made him a threat because he’s tall, lean and quick after the catch. His 9.22 yards after the catch per reception were fifth most in the NFL, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Although he caught just nine of 17 receptions, he didn’t drop any passes -- an upside in Bruce Arians’ offense.

Reason not to re-sign: The main reason for the Cardinals not to re-sign Housler is that he’s not a good fit in Arians’ offense. Housler is built like a new-age tight end: He’s tall, long and athletic like a basketball player. He’s a better fit as a receiving tight end than a blocking tight end. Unfortunately for Housler, Arians wants a tight end who’ll block first and then be able to catch a pass. He can do the latter better than he can do the former. That’s simply not Housler’s game. The Cardinals had hope for Housler heading into 2013 but he proved he wasn’t the blocker player Arians wanted. In 2014, he had a pass-block efficiency rating of 93.8, the third-highest on the Cardinals.

Prediction: Housler’s time in Arizona has run out. With Darren Fells coming on and Troy Niklas planning on being healthy, both will complement John Carlson again in 2015 in the blocking schemes. Housler simply doesn’t fit and it’ll cost him a chance at re-signing with the Cardinals.

Thanks for the article, YTown...

Here's one from the Browns site today:

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...ba-f7f1a99b557c

Speedy pass catcher wants to ‘stretch the defense’

After being courted by AFC North rivals Baltimore Ravens and the Cincinnati Bengals, tight end Rob Housler chose the Cleveland Browns on Thursday.

“I had really good conversations with coach (Mike) Pettine and Ray (Farmer), the coaching staff – and I just felt a really good vibe from this place,” Housler said. “And opportunities. I’m looking for opportunities.”

There will be opportunity in Cleveland, where Housler and his sub 4.5-second 40-yard dash speed arguably catapult to the forefront of the tight ends room alongside Jim Dray and Gary Barnidge.

Offensive coordinator John DeFilippo communicated to Housler that he wants to line up receivers, running backs and tight ends all over the field, something that suits Housler’s playing style. Housler said DeFilippo was adamant about bringing out the strengths of all of his players on offense.

“I like to be able to stretch the defense,” Housler said. “It will help the guys on the outside. If you can have a tight end that can threaten the safeties down the middle, then it opens up guys on the outside.

“And if you’ve got guys on the outside, like Cleveland does, that can really stretch the field, then it opens up the middle. I’ll bring balance to the passing game and an element to the run game. That’s what I can bring to this team.”

While recalling his four seasons with the Arizona Cardinals, Housler agreed his former team maybe could’ve used him as more of a vertical threat. The former third-round pick out of Florida Atlantic amassed 168 targets in Arizona, but was rarely utilized in the red zone. The 6-foot-5, 250-pound Housler totaled only one touchdown.

“If you have the targets, then you can have the stats,” Housler said. “Without trying to spitball any numbers or anything, there is that opportunity here. I think with Flip’s offense, he’s going to spread it around. I saw that chance to be here and make an impact.”

Another reason Housler chose the Browns, an insight that was echoed by quarterback Josh McCown, was Cleveland’s offensive line and running game. Opposing linebackers who will be marking Housler will also be just as concerned with stopping Isaiah Crowell and Terrance West – or getting mauled by a pulling guard like Joel Bitonio.

“This offense has balance,” Housler said. “That’s going to open up play-action passes, which does get your tight ends and slot guys open, which is an intriguing element in my mind.”

Housler is expected be in attendance when OTAs begin on April 20. (YTown note: The day before my birthday)

Well if he wont block for god he wont block for anybody lol

Another solid signing by Farmer...another guy to plug in and play...another guy who fills a need...another guy to free up options in the draft.

This should close out the free agency season for us...very, very well done by Pett-Farm...looking forward to the draft.

Through reading and having my ear open, I think this could end up being a sleeper signing. He could be a threat on anything but running plays. Plus, when he gets hit I won't have to worry about him missing three weeks with concussion symptoms and, with Dray and Barnidge - it gives the staff options on draft day.

Even found a decent highlight video. Looking like a Cameron clone, really...

Well analyzed IMO. Short of a Gronk, I do not favor a first round TE. Want some quality upgrades in the first, like a NT, wideout, or LB.

Hey, God is hard to block. Really sets the edge, too.

On the bright side, 2013 Housler compares with 2014 Cameron.

I don't think there's any way to sell this as an improvement over Cameron, but there weren't many TE options. We tried to pay Cameron top-dollar, he preferred Miami.

Hopefully we find a gem in the draft. If not, Housler gives us veteran depth.

Similar type player. Cameron gets the edge because he's got a season of massive production. But who knows? Maybe Housler is ready to break out.

Value wise, I think it is a wash. Got a historically less productive player than can be used in the same way but without the injury history or inflated paycheque.

And really Vers, just making the point is fine. Calling someone "deceitful" is unnessecary and just makes you look like a jerk.

Dittos!

Guys, I am NOT saying that he won't be good. I am NOT saying that it was a bad move. I am saying that 32 saying it was a "wash quality wise" is BS.

A jerk? It's amazing how perception affects reality. I personally think that someone who would purposely make false statements in order to further their opinion on a current FO is more of a jerk than someone who calls him on it.

But, that is just me.

I have seen that many of you and I have a very different set of morals, and that was never more clear in the Gordon thread.

Sometimes I just think hope overrides common sense.

Maybe, but when you have a guy who bad-mouthed everything Mangini did, no matter how small and then ignored everything bad that H and H did and praised all their moves and then bad-mouthed every move Banner made and then defends every move Farmer makes..........well........I call BS!

And I call BS (to use your own words) on your statement. Once again, you overplay your hand...

Sorry 32.

I like you as a person, but as a poster, you are very biased and unfair.