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The Connecticut DMV has started a Drive Only program for undocumented individuals who are 16 and older and cannot establish their legal presence in the United States or may not have a Social Security number. The process involves applying for a learner's permit that can then lead to a drive-only license. Learner's permits are now required of all new license applicants regardless of age. The Drive Only license program is authorized under Public Act 2013-89.


Link Seriously?! Instead of giving an ILLEGAL a drivers license, how about when they come to get one, you boot there butt out of the country!

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IMO, the only thing an illegal should be given is their deportation papers.

With all the free this and health care and etc we provide, it only makes hopping the border more appeasing. It's a joke.

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That will never happen. The problem is plain and simple. Votes. Each party wants the hispanic vote, so they are going to do whatever they can to appease the hispanic/latino community. Which will put suffer and stress on the rest of the nation.

I have more respect for an immigrant that has come over here LEGALLY anymore than anyone else in this country I believe. For someone to take the time to do it the right way, when it is so easy and policies are made to make it easy, that is stand-up and the kind of citizens we want in this country.

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My opinion on illegals has been a work in progress over the years.

I thought we should close the border and force them to come in legally but the Nation does not have the will to do that so I have adjusted my opinion to if we are gonna let them in anyway, we are best to make them
part of the system than forcing them underground.

I will also say the Hispanic community is an asset to America as they are some of the hardest working, family oriented people I have seen.

They are already 17 percent of our Population and will probably be around 50 percent over the next 20 years. We must work with them to make America even greater.

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I'm not sure what a Drive-Only program is. It is a driver's license, meant for driving, what else is it for other than as an ID?

So if they get one and get pulled over, and the offer says ID and registration, they reply "Sorry, sir, no ID, I just have a drive-only license"? rofl


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That link stated you can't use the license to vote. However you only need to have proof of identification the first time you vote and then you only need to have a copy of your water bill or other utility bill as this proof of ID.

This is ridiculous.


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You still have to register for a voters card to vote, the DL is just identification to prove you are who you say you are when you step up to vote.


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You have to register, it doesn't say you have to have a voters card, they just put a check by your name once you've voted and shown your water bill or other utility bill. Here's the link to what I read.

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You have to register, it doesn't say you have to have a voters card, they just put a check by your name once you've voted and shown your water bill or other utility bill. Here's the link to what I read.

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I truly do not believe it matters. If you are here illegally, you should not be able to drive around licensed! If you are here illegally, then go to a government run organization to obtain a license, you should be deported as you are here ILLEGALLY

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My opinion on illegals has been a work in progress over the years.

I thought we should close the border and force them to come in legally but the Nation does not have the will to do that so I have adjusted my opinion to if we are gonna let them in anyway, we are best to make them
part of the system than forcing them underground.

I will also say the Hispanic community is an asset to America as they are some of the hardest working, family oriented people I have seen.

They are already 17 percent of our Population and will probably be around 50 percent over the next 20 years. We must work with them to make America even greater.
I agree, however I also will say you would agree that a good percentage of the ones coming over ILLEGALLY are not law abiding citizens and running drugs and guns and killing american CITIZENS. I have the geatest respect for those that come here LEGALLY, however I believe the ones that come over here ILLEGALLY make me question why they are doing it ILLEGALLY

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the ones that come over here ILLEGALLY make me question why they are doing it ILLEGALLY


Because it beats staying in their own country?

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My opinion on illegals has been a work in progress over the years.

I thought we should close the border and force them to come in legally but the Nation does not have the will to do that so I have adjusted my opinion to if we are gonna let them in anyway, we are best to make them
part of the system than forcing them underground.

I will also say the Hispanic community is an asset to America as they are some of the hardest working, family oriented people I have seen.

They are already 17 percent of our Population and will probably be around 50 percent over the next 20 years. We must work with them to make America even greater.


If we keep letting them in, eventually they'll take away our religion (look at all these Muslims crying about the American flag, one example. We have Christian haters here too, obviously like the Boston people (yes they were legals, but example) who are mindset on killing us), they'll take our English (every manual has a Spanish speaking side on American made products, some are before the English instructions), they'll take our jobs, they'll consume tax payer dollars while not even paying any sort of taxes, they'll take over majority population (your kid's kids will grow up not even knowing who George Washington was or what "our" history is) and I could literally go on and on.

Explain to me how that will 'make America greater?'

It's a problem, not an advancement (unless you're the joke cashing in on their votes by increasing their benefits and etc they get by coming here illegally).

This entire post is JMO

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[quote=1day] the ones that come over here ILLEGALLY make me question why they are doing it ILLEGALLY


Im sure it does, but then why dont you go about it the correct way and become a Citizen?

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If we keep letting them in, eventually they'll take away our religion (look at all these Muslims crying about the American flag, one example. We have Christian haters here too, obviously like the Boston people (yes they were legals, but example) who are mindset on killing us),
I am not a religious person, but one I can say is you will not take away anyones religion. That is cause of every war pretty much ever fought on this earth. The flag has nothing to do with religion, they may try to take away our patriotism, but religion will never be taken away from people.

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they'll take our jobs, they'll consume tax payer dollars while not even paying any sort of taxes
This is true. there are now programs to place ILLEGALs into work programs....ummmm, our own citizens are out of work, lets focus on them.

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take over majority population (your kid's kids will grow up not even knowing who George Washington was or what "our" history is) and I could literally go on and on
I believe knowing multiple cultures and history is a plus for children, it shows them how lucky they really are. But I do not believe and ILLGAL should have any rights when it comes to our politics and law making.
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It's a problem, not an advancement
I completely agree with you on the overall premise, minus a thing or two which i pointed out.

Its not about letting them come here to better their lives, its about getting votes and lobbiest money. Plain and simple. BOTH parties are wrong in this topic. It has to stop, or our country will be in a very dire need.

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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
You have to register, it doesn't say you have to have a voters card, they just put a check by your name once you've voted and shown your water bill or other utility bill. Here's the link to what I read.

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Correct, you don't have bring your voters card, but your name isn't in the list if your not registered. You can show up with your license and a million forms of ID, but if you didn't register to vote, your name won't be on the list of registered voters, so you won't be voting.


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Well, I think this is a legit post. Cheers bro.

I'd say though is once with the majority, they'll have more power. Soon political people will be of their religion. We live in a delicate world. Colleges won't even play American Sniper (which showcases a real American hero!) for fear of upsetting the other religious groups.

They already have influence. With more numbers and people becomes even more influence gained.

IMO, nothing good comes outta making it not only easy, but appeasing to border hoppers. The only good goes to the border hoppers who haven't earned it and the dark side of the political spectrum, which then Americans and people who've came to the USA legally are shafted.

Again, to not offend anyone, this entire post is JMO.

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why does Mexico has a terrible Olympic swimming team?

because all the Mexicans that can swim are in America.


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Originally Posted By: 1day
]I agree, however I also will say you would agree that a good percentage of the ones coming over ILLEGALLY are not law abiding citizens and running drugs and guns and killing american CITIZENS. I have the geatest respect for those that come here LEGALLY, however I believe the ones that come over here ILLEGALLY make me question why they are doing it ILLEGALLY



The last time I researched it, I found that the vast majority of illegals are poor Hispanic people with no hope, trying to find a stable place to make money and raise their children without drug lords throwing them into vats of acid. I agree there is a criminal element and they keep coming back after we deport them. That is our fault.
I also understand the process to bring people into America legally is now broken because all quotas are way overfilled. It now takes years to get here legally, days illegally.

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If we keep letting them in, eventually they'll take away our religion (look at all these Muslims crying about the American flag, one example. We have Christian haters here too, obviously like the Boston people (yes they were legals, but example) who are mindset on killing us), they'll take our English (every manual has a Spanish speaking side on American made products, some are before the English instructions), they'll take our jobs, they'll consume tax payer dollars while not even paying any sort of taxes, they'll take over majority population (your kid's kids will grow up not even knowing who George Washington was or what "our" history is) and I could literally go on and on.

Explain to me how that will 'make America greater?'

It's a problem, not an advancement (unless you're the joke cashing in on their votes by increasing their benefits and etc they get by coming here illegally).

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You said a lot in this post but I will try to cover everything.

First, I agree about closing the border but it ain't happening. Nobody in Government will push the issue and mean it.
So we are stuck with the situation. They will continue to come in waves. I want to know who they are and where they are by bringing them into the system with the paperwork.
When we catch the criminals coming in and arrest and deport them, they are back in the next day.
Most of the illegals are Hispanics and are Christians so they will join us in faith and make us stronger. I think English should be our language. I say it is ok to allow the newcomers some time to learn our language but they gotta learn it!

I know many Hispanic people and I gotta tell you, I have never seen such a hard working group in my life. They will do any job and they won't complain. They are all yes sir and no sir, even if they don't have a clue what you are saying. They show up on time and many of them walk everywhere because they can't afford cars. I am really impressed with them as you can tell. They will be good for the future of America. An asset!

As far as the Muslims you talked about being against America, well, if they don't like the place maybe when Mexico is finally empty, we can send them there. wink

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If we keep letting them in, eventually they'll take away our religion (look at all these Muslims crying about the American flag, one example. We have Christian haters here too, obviously like the Boston people (yes they were legals, but example) who are mindset on killing us), they'll take our English (every manual has a Spanish speaking side on American made products, some are before the English instructions), they'll take our jobs, they'll consume tax payer dollars while not even paying any sort of taxes, they'll take over majority population (your kid's kids will grow up not even knowing who George Washington was or what "our" history is) and I could literally go on and on.

Explain to me how that will 'make America greater?'

It's a problem, not an advancement (unless you're the joke cashing in on their votes by increasing their benefits and etc they get by coming here illegally).

This entire post is JMO


You said a lot in this post but I will try to cover everything.

First, I agree about closing the border but it ain't happening. Nobody in Government will push the issue and mean it.
So we are stuck with the situation. They will continue to come in waves. I want to know who they are and where they are by bringing them into the system with the paperwork.
When we catch the criminals coming in and arrest and deport them, they are back in the next day.
Most of the illegals are Hispanics and are Christians so they will join us in faith and make us stronger. I think English should be our language. I say it is ok to allow the newcomers some time to learn our language but they gotta learn it!

I know many Hispanic people and I gotta tell you, I have never seen such a hard working group in my life. They will do any job and they won't complain. They are all yes sir and no sir, even if they don't have a clue what you are saying. They show up on time and many of them walk everywhere because they can't afford cars. I am really impressed with them as you can tell. They will be good for the future of America. An asset!

As far as the Muslims you talked about being against America, well, if they don't like the place maybe when Mexico is finally empty, we can send them there. wink


You will be going there because soon Christian non Muslims will be the minority population in this country.


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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
That link stated you can't use the license to vote. However you only need to have proof of identification the first time you vote and then you only need to have a copy of your water bill or other utility bill as this proof of ID.

This is ridiculous.


Can't use your drive only license to vote.....for now. Change is a comin.


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the ones that come over here ILLEGALLY make me question why they are doing it ILLEGALLY


Because it beats staying in their own country?


Somtimes takes years to become "legal" . A friend of mine from England has been trying for 3 years. Letters required from friends, family, neighbors, photos of their marriage as well as documentation.


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You will be going there because soon Christian non Muslims will be the minority population in this country.


Not when my people and my Hispanic pals are 85 percent of the population in 20 years. Then it will be "Get with the Program or VAMANOS,andale!

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80 something percent identify as Christians in this country.

Soon? Try almost never. Your fear mongering when it comes to religion is getting old.

And taking jobs?

Sorry but most of Yall wouldn't be caught dead picking fruit or vegetables and whatever.

As a lot of Americans feel theyre too proud for that.

I don't like the idea of giving illegals drivers licenses, as the word illegal is kind of straight coward.

However, the crap some of you guys say is simply astounding.


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80 something percent identify as Christians in this country.

Soon? Try almost never. Your fear mongering when it comes to religion is getting old.

And taking jobs?

Sorry but most of Yall wouldn't be caught dead picking fruit or vegetables and whatever.

As a lot of Americans feel theyre too proud for that.

I don't like the idea of giving illegals drivers licenses, as the word illegal is kind of straight coward.

However, the crap some of you guys say is simply astounding.


Hi Swish! Thanks for expressing so eloquently, your thoughts!!!!!


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Funny! But really, Peurto Rican getting disability in this country because they don't speak English. What the he** is that????? Yes, read about it but waiting for a reliable source for posting.


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I'll wait too. If it's true, it's stupid. And I'll agree with you until my last breath.

But if this was true, every major new sources, mainly FOX would've already brought it up.

So I dunno.


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You said a lot in this post but I will try to cover everything.

First, I agree about closing the border but it ain't happening. Nobody in Government will push the issue and mean it.

Truth!

So we are stuck with the situation. They will continue to come in waves. I want to know who they are and where they are by bringing them into the system with the paperwork.
When we catch the criminals coming in and arrest and deport them, they are back in the next day.

IMO, there is no justifiable cause to, if you're heartset on entering another country, then why not do it like the right way?

I know that unless a large, endless structure was built - we cannot monitor every aspect/location on the border at every moment - it would be costly, but SURELY there are solutions out there we can come to that can help trigger and monitor the border jumpers. It's just too easy because there are so many ways for them to enter the country. And yes, many we deport are back in route the next day, there has to be something we could do (without flooding our jails) to prevent this. I don't know.



Most of the illegals are Hispanics and are Christians so they will join us in faith and make us stronger. I think English should be our language. I say it is ok to allow the newcomers some time to learn our language but they gotta learn it!

I would agree. My buddy hit an Asian female on accident, she was okay but the cop that was there, and my brother, could not understand a word she was saying. Must learn the native language, even in just for the case of an emergency of some sort.


I know many Hispanic people and I gotta tell you, I have never seen such a hard working group in my life. They will do any job and they won't complain. They are all yes sir and no sir, even if they don't have a clue what you are saying. They show up on time and many of them walk everywhere because they can't afford cars. I am really impressed with them as you can tell. They will be good for the future of America. An asset!

I don't know about hte "future" part, but I cannot deny you one bit their work ethic. By God they are some of the most consistently friendly people too!!!!!!!!! Most hispanics i've been around were an upmost pleasure to be in their company. Again, no denying those pieces.


As far as the Muslims you talked about being against America, well, if they don't like the place maybe when Mexico is finally empty, we can send them there. wink

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You will be going there because soon Christian non Muslims will be the minority population in this country.


Not when my people and my Hispanic pals are 85 percent of the population in 20 years. Then it will be "Get with the Program or VAMANOS,andale!


You seem to be having difficulty separating illegals from hispanics.


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You will be going there because soon Christian non Muslims will be the minority population in this country.


Not when my people and my Hispanic pals are 85 percent of the population in 20 years. Then it will be "Get with the Program or VAMANOS,andale!


You seem to be having difficulty separating illegals from hispanics.


Not at all. Just look to the future and you will see they are all gonna be citizens thanks to our government. Then consider that the ones already here have more kids than the other Races in America. The handwriting is on the wall.

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You will be going there because soon Christian non Muslims will be the minority population in this country.


Not when my people and my Hispanic pals are 85 percent of the population in 20 years. Then it will be "Get with the Program or VAMANOS,andale!


You seem to be having difficulty separating illegals from hispanics.


Not at all. Just look to the future and you will see they are all gonna be citizens thanks to our government. Then consider that the ones already here have more kids than the other Races in America. The handwriting is on the wall.



And that has to do with giving illegal aliens drivers licenses how?
I don't live in the future, I live in the here and now, and I am discussing the topic of DLs for illegals, not how the US population will be 80% Hispanic in 50 years.

But thanks for your participation, and if you would like to start a new thread about population demographics in the coming 50 years, feel free to do so.


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But thanks for your participation, and if you would like to start a new thread about population demographics in the coming 50 years, feel free to do so.


Well my point was a drivers license for illegals is documentation of their existence in America which serves us all.

Secondly, this is 1day's thread so where you want to steer it is of no concern. Start your own thread if you want to lead.

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But thanks for your participation, and if you would like to start a new thread about population demographics in the coming 50 years, feel free to do so.


Well my point was a drivers license for illegals is documentation of their existence in America which serves us all.


See that wasn't so hard now was it, why didn't you just say that?


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I did, quite a few times in my posts, why didn't you read them? Too busy being snarkey perhaps.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
80 something percent identify as Christians in this country.

Soon? Try almost never. Your fear mongering when it comes to religion is getting old.

And taking jobs?

Sorry but most of Yall wouldn't be caught dead picking fruit or vegetables and whatever.

As a lot of Americans feel theyre too proud for that.

I don't like the idea of giving illegals drivers licenses, as the word illegal is kind of straight coward.

However, the crap some of you guys say is simply astounding.
I wouldnt say they are too proud for it. But the incentive to not work is greater than taking that job. If I can make 500 on entitlements but only 400 working 40 hours, im gonna take the entitlements. Now, you can say that maybe we need to pay more, which is an argument I somewhat would agree with, however then we are getting off topic and would be in a different thread.

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But thanks for your participation, and if you would like to start a new thread about population demographics in the coming 50 years, feel free to do so.


Well my point was a drivers license for illegals is documentation of their existence in America which serves us all.

Secondly, this is 1day's thread so where you want to steer it is of no concern. Start your own thread if you want to lead.
I would say that my intention of the thred was to open up discussion not only on the topic, but to the general idea of illegals in the country. But yes, it seems a bit of a loose idea that having a documented drivers license for "undocumented" workers is a little weird. I believe it is a back door to make them documented adn get their vote

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But yes, it seems a bit of a loose idea that having a documented drivers license for "undocumented" workers is a little weird. I believe it is a back door to make them documented adn get their vote


It is weird but somebody is finally documenting who is here. Why can't this Country just do things straight forward instead of weird? Wish I knew.

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Originally Posted By: 1day
But yes, it seems a bit of a loose idea that having a documented drivers license for "undocumented" workers is a little weird. I believe it is a back door to make them documented adn get their vote


It is weird but somebody is finally documenting who is here. Why can't this Country just do things straight forward instead of weird? Wish I knew.
Very weird. I think it is because they understand if they documented them for the correct purpose (to get them out of the country for being ILLEGAL) they know they will loose votes.

But instead, lets give them more and more reason to come over here illegally.

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