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I'm working on the second round right now. Here's the first in the meantime. Every year people tell me I'm crazy, but I like to do it my way. I spend a lot of time evaluating team's rosters before making my mock. I'll update with the additional rounds as I get them uploaded. Hope you enjoy.

http://www.cornerblitz.com/2015/Mocks/Final/Default.aspx

1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
QBp Jameis Winston, Florida State
Jameis Winston is easily the best QB in the class, maybe the only real QB in the class. He also might be one of the top three prospects regardless of position, which makes him a no-brainer for this selection.

2. Chicago Bears (from TEN)
QBm Marcus Mariota, Oregon
*TRADE: CHI #7 and Jay Cutler for TEN #2 and #66* Jay Cutler returns home in a big trade sending Marcus Mariota to Chicago to start the John Fox era. Cutler is two years younger than Rivers and has a better arm. Returning to Tennessee, Cutler gets a fresh start on familiar ground, and Tennessee gets a new quarterback. Cutler's mega-deal only has big guaranteed money the next two seasons, so it's not a great risk for the Titans and they have plenty of cap to absorb the hit. Cutler is a more attractive option for Tennessee than Rivers because he's two years younger (29 vs 31) and has three more years left on his contract (4 vs 1).

3. Washington Redskins (from JAX)
5T Leonard Williams, Southern California
*TRADE: WAS #5 and #69 for JAX #3* Washington trades up to solidify their front 3 with Williams, who many believe is the best prospect in the draft. Williams is an ideal candidate for a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4, having already played the position in college.

4. Oakland Raiders
WR Amari Cooper, Alabama
While the Raiders have plenty of holes on defense, they learned last year that if they have no real threats at wideout, they won't be able to succeed with their new quarterback. Adding Cooper provides a consistent, reliable, and dangerous target to pair with Michael Crabtree, who is on a one-year "show me" deal.

5. Jacksonville Jaguars (from WAS)
RE Dante Fowler Jr., Florida
*TRADE: WAS #5 and #69 for JAX #3* After dropping down a couple spots and scoring an additional third-rounder, the Jaguars score Florida's Fowler. Fowler lined up all over the place in Florida's defense, often running stunts or blitzes from different gaps in order to get to the QB. Look for Gus Bradley to utilize him the same way in Jacksonville.

6. New York Jets
OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson
The Jets add the draft's most explosive pass rusher in Beasley. Todd Bowles has a lot of firepower to get after the QB in his head coaching debut.

7. Tennessee Titans (from CHI)
NT Danny Shelton, Washington
*TRADE: CHI #7 and Jay Cutler for TEN #2 and #66* Tennessee adds a key cog to their 3-4 defense in Shelton, who adds a rare combination of power and endurance to the position. While he has all the physical traits to be a dominant nose tackle, he needs work in his technique against the run. Defensive coordinator Ray Horton puts a premium on rushing the passer, and nobody was more productive from the nose in college than this All-American.

8. Atlanta Falcons
CB Trae Waynes, Michigan State
Atlanta's pass defense was embarrassing last year. Atlanta hopes that adding a prototypical specimen at corner will improve their pass coverage. The division is loaded with big receivers and Waynes has the length and speed to keep up with them.

9. New York Giants
SS Landon Collins, Alabama
The Giants are extremely weak at safety, so Collins is the natural fit here. I'm sure New York would like to get some value in a trade down, but I don't see a partner here.

10. St. Louis Rams
LT La'el Collins, LSU
Tough decision for the Rams here, who can go with any offensive lineman in the draft or a big-play wide receiver. In this scenario, St. Louis takes Collins to man the left side, allowing Saffold to play right tackle.

11. New Orleans Saints (from MIN)
WR Kevin White, West Virginia
*TRADE: NO #13 and #78 for MIN #11 and #110* New Orleans moves ahead of Cleveland to grab Kevin White, after having nightmares of how Julio Jones has abused them in the past. With Kenny Stills out and Marques Colston getting older, the Saints need to add a big, strong wideout to pair up with Brandin Cooks.

12. Cleveland Browns
WR DeVante Parker, Louisville
Cleveland didn't expect Parker to fall into their laps at 12, but they select him as the highest ranking player on their board. With offseason additions of Bowe and Hartline to holdovers Andrew Hawkins and Taylor Gabriel, Cleveland has turned wideout from an area of weakness to one of strength.

13. Minnesota Vikings (from NO)
RB Todd Gurley, Georgia
*TRADE: NO #13 and #78 for MIN #11 and #110* The Vikings' relationship with the reinstated Adrian Peterson is in disrepair. No team knows the value of a dominant running back quite like these Vikes, and they add possibly the best running back prospect since the aforementioned AD.

14. Miami Dolphins
CB Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest
Cortland Finnegan retiring digs a deep hole for the Dolphins at corner. It's clear from Miami's pre-draft visits that they are seriously considering a first-round cornerback, and to many, Johnson is the best available.

15. San Francisco 49ers
CB Marcus Peters, Washington
San Francisco gives a boost to their secondary as they nab the extremely talented Peters. He is easily the most talented corner available and San Francisco needs a lot of help at corner.

16. Houston Texans
5T Arik Armstead, Oregon
Houston nabs Arik Armstead to match up with JJ Watt and Vince Wilfork to create a dynamite front 3. One of the rush linebackers is tempting here, but that might seem like giving up on last year's number one overall pick.

17. San Diego Chargers
OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska
The Chargers nab Randy Gregory, who has fallen due to the failed drug test at the combine. Melvin Ingram and Jeremiah Attaochu aren't providing the pass rush San Diego would like, and Gregory is too good to pass up at this point.

18. Pittsburgh Steelers (from KC)
OLB Shane Ray, Missouri
*TRADE: PIT #22 and #87 for KC #18 and #193* Jason Worilds retirement has left the Steelers in a lurch. While Pitt hasn't forced James Harrison into retirement yet, he and Arthur Moats are on one-year deals and Jarvis Jones hasn't made the impact they had hoped for. Moving up gets Pitt the player they covet and ensures he doesn't go to another team in the division with the next pick.

19. Cleveland Browns (from BUF)
5T Malcom Brown, Texas
In Brown, Cleveland gets a player they considered at 12. The Browns were 32nd in the league in rush defense last year, and the Longhorn is one of the premeir run defenders in the draft.

20. Philadelphia Eagles
OG Jake Fisher, Oregon
Philadelphia let Todd Herremans go this offseason, despite him performing well at guard. Chip Kelly puts a premium on athleticism for his offensive linemen, and has shown no hesitation in the past to accumulate Oregon players he recruited.

21. Cincinnati Bengals
RE Alvin Dupree, Kentucky
The Bengals add depth to the pass rush as they nab the highly-thought-of Dupree to rotate with Dunlap and Johnson.

22. Kansas City Chiefs (from PIT)
RT Ereck Flowers, Miami (Fla.)
*TRADE: PIT #22 and #87 for KC #18 and #193* The Chiefs have a lot of tackles on their roster, but they don't really have a good one. Flowers is a powerful drive blocker who will start immediately at right tackle and has left tackle upside should Eric Fisher not improve.

23. Detroit Lions
RT Brandon Scherff, Iowa
Detroit has had recent success drafting an Offensive Tackle from Iowa who slid in the draft in part due to non-ideal arm length at the position. They try to strike gold twice, nabbing Scherff, who most expect to go top 10.

24. Arizona Cardinals
CB Byron Jones, Connecticut
Arizona needs a second starting corner on their roster, and they opt for Jones, the physical prototype.

25. Carolina Panthers
LT Andrus Peat, Stanford
The Panthers needed a left tackle going into last year's draft and didn't get one. They breathe a sigh of releif here as the run on offensive linemen continues and the last first-tier left tackle goes off the board.

26. Baltimore Ravens
WR Breshad Perriman, UCF
Baltimore grabs Torrey Smith's replacement in a player that reminds me very much of his predecessor. Smith is big and fast and a vertical threat and should fit in well with Baltimore's offensive scheme. DGB is a very tempting option here, but I just don't see how they can draft him after dealing with the Ray Rice issue last season.

27. Dallas Cowboys
RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
The Jones' get just the player they need as Gordon falls into their laps at 27. This would be the ideal scenario for the Cowboys.

28. Denver Broncos
RT D.J. Humphries, Florida
Denver selects D.J. Humphries to man the right side of their line. TJ Clemmings was a tempting option here, but he is just not good enough in pass protection right now for this offense.

29. Indianapolis Colts
NT Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma
Indy's defensive needs a lot of help right up the middle, and Phillips can provide that anchor up the middle for to stop the run.

30. Green Bay Packers
TE Maxx Williams, Minnesota
The Packers have been missing that seam tight end ever since Finley's injury occurred. Williams available for them seems a natural fit, as the Packers' offense is predicated on feeding Aaron Rodgers with lots of weapons.

31. New Orleans Saints (from SEA)
OLB Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA
The Saints add their pass rusher in Owa Odighizuwa. A phenomenal athlete and good run stuffer to boot, OO has the potential to become an elite edge defender if he is over his hip injuries.

32. New England Patriots
WR Nelson Agholor, Southern California
Nelson Agholor is the ideal wideout for the Patriots. He is a good team player, runs precise routes, and has great yards-after-catch ability.

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Looks pretty good. Interesting having Cutler heading back to Nashville.


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I see a lot of the draft happening this way. I have Parker at 12 and Shelton at 19. I think Dupree comes off the board in that 5-9 range. Hottest name in the draft right now.

Miami is the one i expect to make the jump up for a receiver.

chicago going up to 2 is very itneresting.

OO and I dont see Sherff falling that far, i think he has a strong chance to go to Jets, Giants or Rams.

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gotta agree in fact I just posted a mock i did a few minutes before this one and nabbed both Parker and Brown with the picks you took them at....I would be stoked with a first round like this.


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We come out with Parker and Brown or Parker and Shelton and its a home run.

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Where do you go if Parker is not there at 12 ? I have a feeling the top three WIDE OUTS WILL BE GONE BY 12 ..

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Originally Posted By: waterdawg
Where do you go if Parker is not there at 12 ? I have a feeling the top three WIDE OUTS WILL BE GONE BY 12 ..


In your scenario, say the Giants take DeVante Parker instead of the SS, then we don't have Parker to take at 12......then it's simple, we draft Gurley. thumbsdown tongue


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Originally Posted By: waterdawg
Where do you go if Parker is not there at 12 ? I have a feeling the top three WIDE OUTS WILL BE GONE BY 12 ..


I would take Brown. I actually wish I would have had us trade up to Miami's spot to take Brown (#19 + #77).

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19. Cleveland Browns (from BUF)
5T Malcom Brown, Texas
In Brown, Cleveland gets a player they considered at 12. The Browns were 32nd in the league in rush defense last year, and the Longhorn is one of the premeir run defenders in the draft.

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Parker and Brown? I'm ok with that!


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Scherff 23? I would be super PO'd we'd pass on him twice and especially #19. The kid will be a PRO BOWL RG from day one and possibly a RT day one where ever he plays he will be GREAT!!!

But my shock is that 21 other teams pass on him?

jmho good mock as far as they go.


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I'm not sure Atlanta will pass on Shane Ray or Randy Gregory. Their pass rush was worse than their pass defense. It was quite pathetic.

Other wise, this mock actually looks pretty good, very believable.



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DeVante at 12 and Malcom at 19,call me satisfied! thumbsup

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The twist with Cutler going to Tenn is interesting.. Hadn't heard that one expressed before..


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I'd love to hear your thoughts on White vs Cooper. Maybe it is reminders of Al Davis, but I think White with the Raiders over Cooper.

I'm not high on Parker, though I wouldn't be upset with him. I'd consider Ray (or Armstead) or try to trade down if the first 11 went the way you have them. Parker isn't a bad pick though.

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Cooper easily. I can post more on it when I get home. I have five 1st round wideouts just on my own personal opinion and White isn't one of them.

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33. Tennessee Titans
WRf Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma
With several great options available at this point, Tennessee goes for the troubled player who might be the most talented in the entire draft. Jay Cutler has a history of getting great production out of troubled players, so Tennessee opts to swing for the fences.

34. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
LT Cameron Erving, Florida State
Tampa Bay made a mistake letting Donald Penn go last year, and now they need a new left tackle to protect their new QB. Who better to do it than the man who did so most of Winston's collegiate career? Some may interject that they want Erving to be a center in the pros, but he's also the best available blindside blocker.

35. Oakland Raiders
RT T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh
Finally, Oakland selects Clemmings, the most powerful run blocker in the draft from either tackle position. Menelik Watson hasn't performed well enough to deserve another year, and Oakland must do something to get their ground game kickstarted.

36. Kansas City Chiefs (from JAX)
WRf Devin Smith, Ohio State
*TRADE: KC #49 and #87 for JAX #36* The Chiefs swap the pick they got from Pittsburgh to move up and grab Devin Smith ahead of a number of teams who are primed to take a wideout. Smith adds a second legitimate receiving threat to Kansas City's offense and is just the kind of receiver that Andy Reid has shown an affinity for in years past.

37. New York Jets
WRp Jaelen Strong, Arizona State
While the Jets may appear set at wideout now that they've added Brandon Marshall, he's a bit of a wildcard now that he's away from Cutler again. Strong is the best offensive player available at this point and probably the best available overall, so adding him is an easy pick for New York.

38. Washington Redskins
OLB Eli Harold, Virginia
The Skins address their pass rush with Eli Harold, a long athletic rusher needed to replace Brian Orakpo in Washington's 3-4.

39. Chicago Bears
WRd Sammie Coates, Auburn
The Bears add a home run threat with Coates. Coates' strength and speed make him a threat to take a slant into the end zone just as easily as a go route.

40. Jacksonville Jaguars (from NYG)
FS Damarious Randall, Arizona State
*TRADE: JAX #49 and #103 for NYG #40* The Jags trade once again to move back up and take Randall ahead of St. Louis. In the meantime, they turned their 4th rounder into another 3rd. Randall is considered by many as the best free safety in the draft and the Jaguars certainly need a lot of help in the back end of their defense.

41. St. Louis Rams
OG Laken Tomlinson, Duke
St. Louis continues the rebuild of their line with the addition of Laken Tomlinson. They have now added two experienced and decorated collegiate linemen to the squad.

42. Atlanta Falcons
RE Preston Smith, Mississippi State
Atlanta could go several directions here, but nabbing the top remaining pass rusher is where they ultimately go. Smith will help re-tool the Falcons' anemic pass rush in their return to a 4-3 after their short-lived time in an odd front.

43. Cleveland Browns
NT Carl Davis, Iowa
The Browns continue to shore up their run defense with the powerful Davis. Phil Taylor is in the last year of his deal and it appears the Browns are willing to let him walk when the season is up. They don't have anyone of consequence behind him, and Davis is too good to pass up here.

44. New Orleans Saints
TE Clive Walford, Miami (Fla.)
New Orleans breathes a sigh of relief as Cleveland passes on the most complete tight end in the draft. After losing Jimmy Graham, the Saints bring in another red zone threat who is a strong blocker, aiding their new commitment to the running game.

45. Minnesota Vikings
MLB Paul Dawson, TCU
Minnesota nabs the playmaking Dawson to round out their linebacking corps with Anthony Barr and Chad Greenway. A poor showing at the combine dropped Dawson out of what might have been a first round selection, based solely on on-the-field production, but Minnesota stops his slide here.

46. San Francisco 49ers
ILB Eric Kendricks, UCLA
Back-to-back inside 'backers as the 49ers look for a replacement they didn't expect to have to make two months ago. The retirements of Willis and Borland pushed San Fran to use a second day pick on a position where they thought they were set.

47. Miami Dolphins
WRp Rashad Greene, Florida State
With Kenny Stills on board to take the top off of the defense and Jarvis Landry to work the slot, the Dolphins need a guy to run all the right routes, get open, and move the chains. Rashad Greene is the perfect candidate for that role in this offense and the 'Phins are lucky to get him here.

48. San Diego Chargers
C Hroniss Grasu, Oregon
Nick Hardwick's retirement was rough on San Diego's line. The Chargers hope adding the athletic Grasu can stablize a unit in flux.

49. New York Giants (from KC)
OG A.J. Cann, South Carolina
*TRADE: KC #49 and #87 for JAX #36* *TRADE: JAX #49 and #103 for NYG #40* The G-Men pick up the athletic Cann to man the left guard spot, pushing Weston Richburg inside to center where he was intended to play. New York hopes to upgrade two positions with one pick in this move.

50. Arizona Cardinals (from BUF)
NT Eddie Goldman, Florida State
*TRADE: AZ #55 and #159 for BUF #50* Arizona, seeing a number of teams in front of them interested in a defensive tackle, moves up to snag Goldman to man the nose. Goldman is someone who many think will go in the first round.

51. Houston Texans
ILB Stephone Anthony, Clemson
The Texans select Stephone Anthony, the high-energy linebacker from Clemson. Anthony can fill gaps, tackle, blitz, and cover. He was a big reason Clemson had the top-ranked defense in the country in 2014 and may end up being the best inside linebacker in the draft.

52. Philadelphia Eagles
WRf Phillip Dorsett, Miami (Fla.)
Chip Kelly selects the speedster from Miami to fill the void left by Jeremy Maclin. Dorsett reminds some of another ex-Eagle, Desean Jackson, due to his speed and quickness. Chip Kelly loves to win with speed, and he adds a lightning-fast pass catcher tailor-made for his offense.

53. Cincinnati Bengals
UT Grady Jarrett, Clemson
Cincinnati continues to bolster the D-Line with the addition of Jarrett, the lightning quick tackle who will initially rotate with Geno Atkins.

54. Detroit Lions
CB Ronald Darby, Florida State
Detroit has tried drafting corners for years, but they are still lacking in quality players at the position. With Green Bay and Chicago in the division, they need to have better talent outside. Rashean Mathis is too old to be considered a difference maker at the position. Here they select Darby, after the corner market hit a dry spell for about a round.

55. Buffalo Bills (from AZ)
5T Xavier Cooper, Washington State
*TRADE: AZ #55 and #159 for BUF #50* Buffalo exercises patience and moves back, gaining another pick after seeing their top target, Carl Davis, already off the board. With their initial selection in the draft, the Rex Ryan-led Bills look to add their own Sheldon Richardson in the quick, slippery talented run defender from the Northwest. In moving to a 3-4, the Bills have Pro Bowler Marcel Dareus and Jarius Wynn at end. Wynn is fine depth, but they need more impact and certainly more depth along the line.

56. Pittsburgh Steelers
CB P.J. Williams, Florida State
Pittsburgh grabs the best-tackling corner in the draft at 56. The Steelers need a lot of help on the perimeter, but have also suffered a major lapse in run defense. This move helps address both areas of concern.

57. Carolina Panthers
RE Danielle Hunter, LSU
Carolina's pass rush needs a boost, and LSU's Danielle Hunter is a terrific athlete at the position. LSU ends tend to not accumulate a lot of sacks because of their contain scheme, but Hunter has the length and athleticism to be a good pass rusher in the NFL.

58. Baltimore Ravens
CB Eric Rowe, Utah
Ozzie Newsome lets the board fall to him and he lands Eric Rowe, the long, fast corner/safety combo player for Utah. Baltimore has issues at both positions, so his selection offers flexibility for the Ravens.

59. Denver Broncos
ILB Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State
Denver is disappointed to have missed out on the best nose tackle prospects, but boosts their run defense with the addition of McKinney, who runs fast and hits like a Mack Truck.

60. Dallas Cowboys
UT Michael Bennett, Ohio State
Michael Bennett is a quick interior lineman who can add some pass rush from the inside. Dallas needs more disruption on the interior to improve their defense.

61. Indianapolis Colts
FS Quinten Rollins, Miami (Ohio)
Indianapolis drafts Quinten Rollins to play Free Safety for the team. The Colts need more turnovers from the safety position, which was Rollins' specialty in his one season at Miami. There will be an adjustment period for him, as he is still new to football, but he can sit a year and learn from Pops Adams in the meantime.

62. Green Bay Packers
CB Jalen Collins, LSU
Green Bay replenishes the cornerback position with the selection of Collins. With Tramon Williams gone, a new starter is needed, and the pool of startable corners is dwindling.

63. Seattle Seahawks
WLB Shaq Thompson, Washington
Shaq Thompson gets to stay home as the Seahawks snag the playmaking, undersized defender to replace Malcolm Smith. Thompson consistently finds ways to create turnovers, and the Seahawks waste no time on their way to the podium to turn in the card with his name on it.

64. New England Patriots
OG Ali Marpet, Hobart
New England selects Ali Marpet, the small school offensive lineman with a mean streak. New England has some retooling to do on the interior of their line, and Marpet is a good candidate to do it.

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Originally Posted By: clwb419
I'd love to hear your thoughts on White vs Cooper. Maybe it is reminders of Al Davis, but I think White with the Raiders over Cooper.

I'm not high on Parker, though I wouldn't be upset with him. I'd consider Ray (or Armstead) or try to trade down if the first 11 went the way you have them. Parker isn't a bad pick though.


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Rank	Name		School		Pos	Height	Weight	Round
1	D. Green-BeckhamOklahoma	WR	6'5"	225	1
2	Amari Cooper	Alabama		WR	6'1"	210	1
3	Nelson Agholor	Southern Cal	WR	6'1"	190	1
4	DeVante Parker	Louisville	WR	6'3"	209	1
5	Devin Smith	Ohio State	WR	6'0"	190	1
6	Jaelen Strong	Arizona State	WR	6'3"	215	2
7	Rashad Greene	Florida State	WR	6'0"	180	2
8	Sammie Coates	Auburn		WR	6'2"	213	2
9	Kevin White	West Virginia	WR	6'3"	210	2


2. Amari Cooper, Alabama 6'1", 210# Round: 1
Extremely productive, terrific route runner who knows how to get open down after down. Good change of speed and will go up to catch the ball between the hashes when needed. Tries to help block in the running game but is generally ineffective when doing so. Was often lined up in the slot to create mismatches. Will jump cut after the catch to try to wriggle past defenders. This sometimes leads to big plays, but he will leave yards on the field he would have otherwise gained just turning it up. Can be a little inconsistent on off-target passes. Pushes off a lot, similar player to Antonio Brown.

9. Kevin White, West Virginia 6'3", 210# Round: 2
Gets up to top speed quickly and is very fast on flys and skinny posts. Is not an accomplished route runner. Fight for extra yards on shallow crossers and screens which have resulted in fumbles. Inconsistent on slants. While he is strong and fast he is not very creative after the catch. Doesn't make great adjustments when the ball is off-target. Seems very similar to Cordarrelle Patterson, who was also highly thought of when entering the draft.

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The prospect of adding Brown and Davis to our defensive front is very appealing to me.

If this were our draft it adds three players who should provide impact immediately. Nice job.

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thanks, completely forgot about cornerblitz

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thanks, completely forgot about cornerblitz


Its easy to, I don't touch it for like 11 months out of the year, lol.

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BTW - Juts na FYI,I'm getting the following error for most links to other positions.


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I get the same.


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12 - Nelson Agholor
19 - La'el Collins
43 - Shaq Thompson
77 - Tyeler Davison
111 - Jalston Fowler
115 - Duke Johnson
147 - Jeff Heuerman
189 - Ty Montgomery
202 - George Farmer
229 - Ellis McCarthy

1 - Winston (Bucs)
2 - Mariota (Trade with Chargers.)
3 - Cooper (Jaguars)
4 - Beasley (Raiders)
5 - Scherff (Washington)
6 - Fowler (Jets)
7 - Williams (Bears)
8 - Ray (Falcons)
9 - Peat (Giants)
10 - White (Rams)
11 - Parker (Vikings)
12 - Agholor (Browns)
13 - Gordon (Saints)
14 - Green-Beckham (Dolphins)
15 - Waynes (49ers)
16 - Jones (Texans)
17 - Gurley (Titans)

That is far as I am going to go. I did this in about five minutes, so if there are mistakes I don't care.

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you might get your wish .. (12 - Agholor (Browns).. ) as I think there is an outside chance cooper , white and Parker just might be off the board .. I would go Shelton or Brown at 19 ..

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Here's how my Mock ended up for us... finished 7th round last night.

http://www.cornerblitz.com/2015/Mocks/Final/CLE.aspx

12. Cleveland Browns
WRf DeVante Parker, Louisville
Cleveland didn't expect Parker to fall into their laps at 12, but they select him as the highest ranking player on their board. With offseason additions of Bowe and Hartline to holdovers Andrew Hawkins and Taylor Gabriel, Cleveland has turned wideout from an area of weakness to one of strength.

14. Cleveland Browns (from MIA)
5T Malcom Brown, Texas
*TRADE: CLE #19 and #77 for MIA #14* In Brown, Cleveland gets a player they considered at 12. The Browns were 32nd in the league in rush defense last year, and the Longhorn is one of the premeir run defenders in the draft. Brown was a risk to go to San Fran, Houston, or KC in the next four picks, so Cleveland moves up to secure the player they want. Miami is happy to get back the selection they shipped off for Kenny Stills.

43. Cleveland Browns
NT Carl Davis, Iowa
The Browns continue to shore up their run defense with the powerful Davis. Phil Taylor is in the last year of his deal and it appears the Browns are willing to let him walk when the season is up. They don't have anyone of consequence behind him, and Davis is too good to pass up here.

111. Cleveland Browns
OLB Markus Golden, Missouri
Back on the clock for the first time in almost 70 picks, Cleveland selects Markus Golden, the productive playmaker from Missouri. Golden has made tons of impact plays for the Missouri defense the past couple years and stood out even as a backup to Michael Sam and Kony Ealy in 2013. A poor combine showing dropped him this far, but he showed the athleticism necessary to play outside linebacker in the NFL at his Pro Day. Golden has tremendous instincts and plays team defense, creating opportunities for him teammates to make plays.

115. Cleveland Browns (from BUF)
C Max Garcia, Florida
Last year, when Alex Mack went down with injury, the Browns had no good option as a backup and the offense fell apart. The team dropped from 7-4, finishing 7-9. Mack's contract is such that he can opt out after next year, and unless some miraculous turnaround happens this year, he will do so. Garcia is the most powerful center in the draft and has started at guard and tackle in addition to the position he played his senior year. With the Browns expected to focus on their running game, Garcia is a valuable component of the future.

147. Cleveland Browns
TE Nick O'Leary, Florida State
Nick O'Leary is maybe the most natural catcher in the entire draft, regardless of position. The 2014 AP 1st-team All-American can fill the F tight end role in Cleveland's offense and provide a reliable target for their quarterback... whoever that may end up being.

189. Cleveland Browns
RB Trey Williams, Texas A&M
Trey Williams is a fast and shifty running back with good hands, and provides a nice change of pace to Terrance West and Isaiah Crowell for the Browns' backfield.

202. Cleveland Browns (from BAL)
LT Darrian Miller, Kentucky
Miller is an underrated blindside protector. Playing in the SEC, there are plenty of opportunities to see him against what is considered top competition, and he had terrific games against both Shane Ray and Dante Fowler, Jr. Here the Browns pick up some cheap injury insurance for Joe Thomas, something they've played without his entire career.

229. Cleveland Browns
CB/FS Donald Celiscar, Western Michigan
DJ Celiscar has got very good man cover skills and is a willing tackler. He doesn't have ideal long end speed for a corner, but he is sturdy enough to play free safety if need be.

Link to full mock if interested:

http://www.cornerblitz.com/2015/Mocks/Final/default.aspx

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That's an A+ draft in my opinion CLEVESTEVE

I've said before that I think Schwartz could use competition at RT, but this draft addresses virtually every need we have EXCEPT quarterback and right tackle (just in my opinion).

Still, a very realistic and effective looking draft.

Knocked it out of the park with the first four picks.



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If we can come away from this draft with three or four immediate starters, I'll call that a win. I won't expect Farmer to land us seven or eight playable rookies every season. Parker, Brown Davis and Golden are all guys who could push to start and see the field almost immediately, which would be fantastic.



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I like that draft a lot.

What would your thoughts be on:

Instead of Davis DT Iowa and Golden OLB Missouri, taking Orchard OLB Utah and McCarthy DT UCLA?

I really have no idea where McCarthy will go. I have seen mocks with him as high as mid 2nd round and others where he is around in the 4th.


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I refuse to like any draft that has us trading up for a marginal run stopper.


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Love the mock as it addresses our top 3 most pressing needs: Impact pass rusher, Worthy enough DT, and a star receiver to play this year and groom to start in 2016.

Absolutely love Parker at WR, love the added depth at C, LT, TE, and S...

I wonder if Trey Williams can return punts? I know he returned kicks at A&M...I would take your entire mock draft, with the addition of trading WR Travis Benjamin for a late 5th round pick, and nabbing WR Ty Montgomery to be our punt returner and replace Benjamin as our bottom WR...I just think Benji is damaged goods and has no worth on punt returns anymore. Would be nice to trade Phil Taylor for a possible late 4th round pick and select a RT to push or provide depth...As we have plenty of bodies on the DLine with (Desmond Bryant, Winn, Hughes, Malcolm Brown, Carl Davis, Randy Starks, Armonty Bryant) Superb mock and I know it took a long time!

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Originally Posted By: Jester
I like that draft a lot.

What would your thoughts be on:

Instead of Davis DT Iowa and Golden OLB Missouri, taking Orchard OLB Utah and McCarthy DT UCLA?

I really have no idea where McCarthy will go. I have seen mocks with him as high as mid 2nd round and others where he is around in the 4th.


Hey, that's a tough one. Davis pushes the pocket a lot better but Orchard has less physical question marks than Golden. I really like Golden, though, the guy is just such a danged good football player. I also think he would have ended up with more sacks than he did this year if they didn't line up Shane Ray next to him at DT on 3rd and long. That was a great scheme and a free win for Missou almost every time.

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I like it Steve. Thanks once again for giving me names to look up.


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To be honest, I don't like that mock for the Browns, mainly because I think Parker is a bust waiting to happen. Not sure what people see on tape, but this guy isn't a 1st rounder. Also not a big fan of Davis, he's too one dimensional and he wasn't an elite run stopper when I saw him. Getting Parker, M.Brown and Davis out of the top 4 picks doesn't look like good value to me. More like what I expect from Farmer: one hit and 3 misses


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Originally Posted By: DjangoBrown
To be honest, I don't like that mock for the Browns, mainly because I think Parker is a bust waiting to happen. Not sure what people see on tape, but this guy isn't a 1st rounder. Also not a big fan of Davis, he's too one dimensional and he wasn't an elite run stopper when I saw him. Getting Parker, M.Brown and Davis out of the top 4 picks doesn't look like good value to me. More like what I expect from Farmer: one hit and 3 misses


The idea is that Taylor and Davis are pushing the interior OL into the backfield disrupting the run design, giving time to Brown / Bryant / Hughes / Winn to shed and tackle. That was my take anyway.

I know you hate Parker, but for months reports have been that Parker is the receiver they want. I am trying to give my idea on how the draft could go, and I don't see the Browns realistically passing up Parker at 12. I do think Parker is a first round guy. He has better run after catch than White and Cooper. He high points the ball better than anyone in the draft. He has great size and doesn't drop passes. He does run similarly to Gordon with the long strides which I think is playing into your perception of him being lazy.

Anyway, that's my take on how the draft unfolded at the beginning.

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I would love that draft except I would take the best ILB on the board before any OLB


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I think Parker is probably the 2nd best player in this draft behind Leonard Williams. I hate Louisville but this kid can ball.

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I think Parker is probably the 2nd best player in this draft behind Leonard Williams. I hate Louisville but this kid can ball.


I watched a game where he had something like 200yds and he was pretty bad. He gets zero separation and pushed off for most of that production. I haven't seen one above AVG trait other than maybe size (and well, pushing off, if that counts).
I'm not saying he has zero talent and won't contribute in the NFL, but I see a possession receiver that thinks he's further ahead than he really is. Draft this guy high enough and give him millions to reassure him of that and he won't work hard enough, which he needs, because he isn't ready to be a starter yet. That right there is the recipe for a buuuust.

Agholor is a much better WR


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My problem with Agholor is I see him as a slot at the next level. With Hawkins and Gabriel, I think we are set there. I'm not as down on Parker as you. Every outside receiver pretty much uses that arm bar or push off as you call it to create separation any more. I think they are actually teaching it as a technique. He's bigger and has a better catch radius than Agholor so I prefer Parker. I'm not a big fan of either in the first, particularly not at 12. I do think if Agholor ended up in Denver with Manning as a Welker replacement he could have a great start to his career, but a lot of guys could.

I'm actually okay with where our receivers are at right now with the addition of Bowe and Hartline. I would like to see a bigger redzone target. I wouldn't mind taking a shot at Waller from Georgia Tech later in the draft as a move Tight End and redzone fade/ box out target like a super-poor man's Jimmy Graham but leaning more towards the flexed out wide position.


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