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Report: Browns have been in touch with Washington about No. 5 overall pick

osted by Mike Wilkening on April 27, 2015, 5:47 PM EDT
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A team with a pair of first-round picks has reportedly been in contact with a club selecting in the top five in Thursday’s draft.

The Browns have communicated with Washington about the No. 5 overall pick, Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reported Monday. Cleveland has also reached out to other clubs with top 10 picks, Rapoport said.

The Browns select 12th and 19th in Round One, giving them the trade chips necessary to make a move up in the selection order if needed. What’s more, the Browns have shown they are willing to make a deal; they were involved in three of the five first-round trades in 2014. First, the Browns traded back from No. 4 to No. 9, gaining a 2015 first-rounder in the process. Later, they traded up to No. 8, selecting cornerback Justin Gilbert. Finally, the Browns moved up from No. 26 to No. 22 to take quarterback Johnny Manziel.

Manziel struggled as a rookie, which could make quarterback a position the Browns look to address in the draft. That would likely require a move up from their No. 12 spot.

It might be all smoke, but on the Browns home site they say that Shelton has been told "The Browns" already have his name on a jersey. I wonder if they might be willing to move up just far enough to make sure they get him?

Wow...that's some news there. They must really love Shelton or maybe Mariota? Heck I'm not sure...but sure is getting interesting now

Man, it's so easy to miss on draft picks that I'd much rather have two mid-round firsts than one high one.

I have to believe part of preparation for the draft is due diligence in learning what all your options are regarding trades. So the Browns reach out to various teams to see what each is looking for. The media are looking for anything to report, and every inquiry becomes a new story.

Agreed. I here that we have talked parameters with the Raiders as well. It only makes sense to know pre-draft what it will take to move up if you hve a player you really like or what you can get to mave down should there ber several players you like or none.

Leonard Williams drops to 5 i would trade up for him. dude is a beast.

I am not giving up two first round picks for anyone other than a QB.

If the Browns feel that there is a JJ Watt, or an AJ Green at the top of the draft, then I have no problem with them going up to get him. We need great players, and if we have an opportunity to grab one, we should take us, even if we give up volume for quality. We have had quantity of picks in several recent drafts, without much to show for it.

Obviously if we knew a player was going to turn into a monster, we would have to do it. But no one knows that about any player and the risk is too great if it's not a QB.

To add to this, Suh was that player several years ago. Best player in the draft and a rather dominant D-lineman in the NFL.

The Lions have absolutely nothing to show for it, and he is no longer with the team.

So if we have a choice between a great player, or 2 decent players, we should take the 2 decent players because the great player might leave one day?

They have nothing to show for it and he is not with the team because the Lions failed to put enough pieces in place to win... that's a possibility with any good player you draft.

Which great player are you talking about in this draft?

My whole point has been that if the Browns see a great player, and they have the ability to go get him, then they should do so. One great player is worth more than 2 average players, and can make average players around him better. If the Browns feel that there is a great player available in a spot they can move up to, then they should do so.

I can agree with that. I just don't think that player is available this year (unless we are talking about Mariota, but that is a whole different story because he is a QB).

Oh my gosh if we use multiple picks on Danny Shelton... ugh.

I think what happened with Suh is that his dollar value escalated until Detroit could no longer afford him.

Or maybe that's what you were saying.

I think DC made a very good point in that you have to protect your investment ,like in any other walk in life, you may lose it.

If we can move up to #5 and only have to give up the #12 and #19 and then maybe a mid-round pick next year, I would be OKAY with that. As long as we can land an immediate impact guy such as Danny Shelton or Amari Cooper then I'm good with the move.

I sincerely hope it's not for Marcus Mariota.

This is actually a great point DC, I see a team with lots of talent with no QB, that has to be the focus or as you say we will fail to put enough pieces in place to win. Mack immediately comes to mind but when the time comes I feel certain there will be others that will follow in short order then the whole roster comes unwound and we find ourselves back to 2008 status with no talent.

I just watched Solomon on the Browns sight and he says someone has to step up and seize the Browns starting QB spot, which is true but I just don't see that guy on this roster.

Wow dude you usually makes sense but move up for a nose tackle or a WR, no thanks and no thanks twice on Sunday (well Thursday)....

There are only 3 players you move up for and that is QB, LT, and elite edge rusher and maybe a CB but a nose tackle NEVER and this draft has 5 great WR's in the 1st round why move?

I would ASSume that Pet and Farmer have been working the phones hard trying to gauge who might move and for what in all directions....

Just doing their jobs I would say dotting the i's and crossing the t's getting ready for Thursday night.

I think you nailed it.

one sure would like to think that..

assuming they have a player in mind say MM,... so you gauge each teams interest in trading from pick 1 to pick 10 ( for example) and if interest is there, then you talk picks, players etc. Of course it all goes out the window if that trading partner's board gets screwed up by a run on a position they might be targeting...

I would also assume some of these contacts may have been initiated by other teams as well

they dealin rg3 before draft? i wouldnt doubt it

Yup. These trades don't happen until that pick is actually on the clock. There isn't enough time then to figure out who would want what for a pick, so you do that now.

"So, if a certain player drops to 5 on Thursday, what would you want to trade out of that spot?"

If we wanted to give up something for a NT, I'd rather have paid Suh $20 Million than send The 'Skins 12 & 19 for a rookie.

^This.

^ And this.

I would be in favor of trading up with the Falcons in order to get Parker. I think they would welcome a trade back and then pick up an offensive linemen or a drug addicted pass rusher, cause its doubtful Bud Dupree will be there for them now.

I agree....especially this draft. If we do move up with Washington, I'd have to expect something else in return.

Or they anticipate a lot of movement from teams trying to move, so they are positioning themselves to be part of it to maybe pick up picks elsewhere.

Man Thursday can't get here soon enough.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your logic, but our run defense last year was BEYOND embarrassing and ranked dead last in the league at #32. If our front office is convinced that Shelton is a can't miss prospect that can help us from the word go, then sure, move up and take the kid. If he's going to be the next Haloti Ngata or the next Vince Wilford I would rather not miss out on him.

I'm not disagreeing that we could certainly use both first round picks, but if Shelton is a stud and helps us stop the run and makes our defense better this up coming season, who the hell is going to care what we traded to get him? We'll just be glad we have him.

Maybe it's all a smoke screen too.

I'm with the majority of you all here, the safest thing to do is hang on to all of our picks and draft smartly. I just merely stated that as long as we land an impact player who can start and help us from day one, I would be OKAY with a trade to move up.

Also.

If we were to send Washington #12 and #19 to move up to #5

It's possible one of the elite defensive lineman fall into our laps, such as Dante Fowler or Leonard Williams.

Tennessee goes Mariota at #2
Jacksonville goes Amari Cooper at #3 (which I've read is very possible)
Oakland could go Leonard Williams, Dante Fowler or Kevin White at #4.

That leaves one of those higher graded players falling right into our lap at #5.

I would love to be able to land Dante Fowler or Leonard Williams.

You know, in theory that has some logic to it. But I simply don't see that in the cards. While I'm not trying to turn this into a QB thread, I think having the two 1st round picks should be included in that conversation.

As long as we have two 1st round picks in any draft, we are in contention to move up for a QB. Without two first round picks the odds decline drastically.

While I agree with you about Williams and Leonard, I believe the wise thing to do would be to trade one of those picks for a future 1st rounder if at all possible. Unless this FO feels confident we have our future QB on the roster, which I don't see how they could, moving that investment forward seems to make the most sense.

Maybe Kirk Cousins is part of the deal... not hoping, just thinking out loud.

Yeah no kidding. I wish our FO would just stop reaching for players and draft. Geeez.

It was our first year in a new system and our front seven was decimated by injuries. I'm not as concerned about our run defense as some. It clearly needs to improve, but I see our need for pass rush pretty much equally.

I don't see Shelton as can't miss. With Dupree climbing up mock drafts (and I believe draft boards) and other pass rushers falling, I could see us trading up for him at five if it plays out Winston, Williams, Beasley, Fowler and the price was right. I'm not saying it's what I would do, but I see it as a possibility. Dupree has the versatility Pet and Farmer seem to look for, and there is the Joker tie. Pass rusher is more of a high value position than DT from what I can glean. Dupree doesn't seem to have any character red flags.

Dupree article I found interesting

I particularly liked the fact that Dupree was a film junkie even in high school.

Who are they trying to get at 5? who's the target

Any bust will do.