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If we didnt have Gabriel, I would say we are desperate for an upgrade at receiver but man this kid was destroying defensive backs in every game last year.

Now I also have a top 10 grade on Maxx Williams. He does all the things that I loved with Tony Gonzalez. I have no issue if we trade up for Maxx here in the 2nd but the raw natural talent of DGB is so amazing, just like Gordon, the reward is worth the risk. We may get the same results as gordon but I would rather take a risk on someone with that much upside than taking a receiver with half the talent but helps old ladies cross the street.

Maxx would be target #1 for me and the Skins are the team to target for a trade up.

Armonty Bryant to OLB this year to take the Sheard role.

Unless we trade up I would be SHOCKED if strong was there at 43

I would be happy with Eli Harold in the second and Chris Conley, WR in the third !

I'm right there with you Mourg, I think Maxx would be a great red zone target and he's only 20 so his best football is ahead of him. Go get Maxx in the 2nd and give Manziel or whoever is the QB another target.

My biggest problem with Maxx Williams is I hate guys who think hurdling is a good idea. If they actually knew how to hurdle and maintain their forward momentum, it wouldn't irk me as much. It just seems that he's opening himself up for injury with little payoff. Peyton Hillis drove me crazy. You are a load, drop the shoulder and punch the other team in the mouth. Too many things can go bad in the air like that.

I'd rather have Jesse James in the third. If they were both there in round three I might take Williams, but I think he's being overrated.

I would think Strong was a lock to go to the Jets but they effed up yesterday and picked a player at the one position they were already set at, and now an edge rusher (or RB) is totally in play for them as well.

Jesse James is a terrible blocker. It doesn't even make sense with how big he is. I'd take Clive Walford in the 2nd before i took James in the 5th.

If Gregory is there in the 3rd, I grab him. I don't think that he will be though. I seem to recall that the Saints have a ton of picks in the 2nd/3rd.and with their needs on defense, they may be the team to give Gregory an early that expected look.

Jaelen Strong or Maxx Williams at #43 would be absolutely fantastic.

It would instantly make it one of our strongest drafts in YEARS.

That's not saying a lot.



and, what we really need is a strong Autumn & Winter, not a strong April/May.... whomever gives us that, I'm all-in on.

You're right. It doesn't make sense. I see that as something he can correct. Besides we already have 2 blocking tight ends. James is a redzone target. You can't teach his size. We need bigger windows in compressed space for our inaccurate QBs.

I'm liking Strong too, but I don't reach on a WR if he's gone by the time we pick.

I think the pass rushers available will be either super solid or actual steals.

Strong Autumns are born in April and May..

And no, saying this could be one of our better drafts isn't saying much but look at it this way...

last year at this exact time, we had drafted 2 guys who would end up contributing very little in the upcoming season, then we went nuts and loaded up on days 2 and 3 and UDFAs on guys who really shined and made a difference.. if we can do that again? with 2 solid players from round 1, this would be a thing of beauty.

From this point forward last year we added Bitonio, Kirksey, West, Desir, Crowell, Agnew, Shaw... The draft is not over.

On top of that, I heard 85% of his routes were straight fly routes. That works in college, but not in the NFL, unless you're Randy F. Moss. This analysis was on an ESPN NFL Draft special a few weeks back, so I don't remember who said it.

If you're drafting a speed freak that can't or doesn't know how to run routes, he better be crazy fast.

Thats the thing, he likely is another Randy Moss.

I'd say more "could be", than "likely is".

I don't care, I want the RB (Coleman) or I'm gonna jump up and down and hold my breath until I pass out!

And I'd say pass regardless. He could be Randy Moss, but he also could be Josh Gordon.

I'm curious which team will pull the trigger and take the risk with him. I just don't have anymore risk in me to feel comfy enough to consider him. Maybe in the 7th round, and for me, that's still a "maybe".

Most likely he will mess up and be out of the league but he has moss like talent.

If NFL scouts believed it was likely that he was the next Randy Moss, he wouldn't have been the 5th WR taken... or are the other 4 the next Jerry Rice?

nah its because he had a couple failed drug tests, arrested, kicked out of school, went to another school didnt play a down reportedly threw his girlfriend down a flight of stairs. Talent yea its there. the other stuff ouch.

I'm for going with SS Collins. I see him as being the next version of Troy Polamalu. Can anyone imagine have a Haloti Nagta and Troy P types on the field at the same time for the Cleveland Browns.

That being said, I can see the Browns grabbing either Devin Smith or Randy Gregory with their second pick. Not sure with the third rounder. That will depend on whether more 1st/2nd rounder's fall out. Hoping we get one of the following three with picks 2 and 3; SS/WR/OLB

Not a GM but loving the draft so far.

We wont take him cause of the Gordon trouble and Johnny has his own issues to deal with but kid is special, although may be special ed also lol

I would love to see us grab Mannion.

I think we can take a risk and draft Randy Gregory in the 2nd and take WR in the third (Sammy Coates, perhaps). Take another edge rusher in the 4th and maybe a RB in the 4th too. QB Mannion in the 5th. In the 6th, I would take a TE and an ILB. 7th round we should take a player who is a complete football freak who can excel on Special teams- I do not care what position he plays.

Thinking about our WR situation this morning ... as of now we have:

Bowe
Hartline
Hawkins
Gabriel
Benjamin


who else? probably room for 1 more

I just looked at 4 different 2nd round mock drafts and they have us taking Devin Smith in two and Jalen Strong in the other two. I'd be fine with either of those two players.

If Randy Gregory is there at 43, might be hard to pass up. Pre-pot news, he was sure fire top 10 pick. My problem with him is that I just kind of see another Mingo.

I'm hoping for Strong in round 2 or Conley in round 3. I think smart play would be to look to grab a WR and an OLB in the two rounds today. Some may argue TE and I could potentially see that in round 3. I just don;t want Maxx Williams...something about him says average to me.

Jaelen Strong

I'd like to have Strong, Maxx, Gregory, or Collins

For sure room for one more! Say... Jaleen Strong is IMO the best option playing things as safe as possible. If he gone, maybe Chris Conley in the later rounds although I'm not really sold on him. An average press corner will likely shut Conley out.

So yeah, fingers crossed for Strong.

Chris Conley is an excellent player that I'd love to have on the Browns.

Jaelen Strong, however, gives us that red zone threat that the Browns do not have on the outside right now.

Watched a lot of ASU games (normally on later when I'm at work) Strong I've been pimping since September...Best traits is he plucks the ball out of the air...and specializes in catching some really off passes (with our lackluster QB play...this could be handy) He's not as fast as he timed, but that can be said for many...He reminds me of a Boldin/Eric Moulds clone...worst case scenario is he is pedestrian, and he presents excellent 2nd round value...Would love to add him and Maxx Williams at TE (dreaming right?) But imagine that jump start to our O...

We have a huge need at pass rusher OLB...but perhaps someone can fall in our lap in round 3...the cutoff at WR between round 2 vs round 3 is greater than the cutoff at OLB in round 2 vs round 3 IMO...

I've been trying to spread the knowledge about the kid on this board for a month now, not sure why so many want to risk a high draft pick on him. I remember listening to ESPN's Mike & Mike in the morning a month or so ago, they had Schefter on, and they were discussing WR's and DGB came up, and he quoted a Missouri coach in saying that "Green-Beckham is a game changer with the football in his hands but has one of the worst football I.Q.'s he's ever been around. When he doesn't have the ball in his hands he has no idea what's going on".

It's a sad story with him, but given the recent history of guys such as Josh Gordon, Dion Jordan, Johnny Manziel, Darryl Washington and Justin Blackmon (guys with drug issues, suspension history and character concerns), rookies coming into the league with the same type of history are going to be looked at a lot harder and their value is likely to slide.

If Green-Beckham is still sitting on the board in the 5th or 6th round of the draft, then I'm maybe going to take a chance on the kid, but anything higher in my opinion would be a huge risk.

What an idiot.

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