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I wonder if smoking weed all the time can make a person feel lethargic. . . I've been feeling like this since year 7 in the military. Wasn't allowed to smoke. Marijuana is a depressant and stays in your system long after the buzz is gone. I smoked a lot until my early 20's, and couldn't believe the energy, motivation and mental sharpness I had after I stopped. At the time, I didn't realize the effects it had on me...and if someone were to point them out I would have attributed it to something else (i.e. working long hours, not enough sleep, crappy diet, etc.) Take a month or two off and see if you notice a difference. Yes. I agree a zillion percent. Marijuana is what I call the slow demotivating drug, at least for some. After awhile it just burns some of us out. ...And I'd take two or three months off instead of just one or two, if you can. Note: That's not always that easy to do, especially if you're a daily smoker. Waaaaaaaaaay back when I was in High School, there was a group of heavy pot users, and they were called burnouts. They smoked frequently, including sneaking out to smoke pot during school. Pot never hurt anyone, but these guys lost all incentive for much of anything except more pot. Now I admit that I am not a drug expert, and I have no way of knowing whether or not pot in those days was the same as it is today ...... but I saw its effect over an extended period of time in those kids.
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It's 10 times stronger than even when I was in high school (class of '94). Everyone I know including myself has only toked the indoor grown stuff over the past 7 to 8 years. Which is grown with water that has tons of chemicals in it. I can feel the effect it has had on my memory and common sense majorly. I never really considered myself lazy since I've always been a good worker. But I'm doing nothing but work in my time off from work since I stopped. I've finally just quit smoking and feel the change and my outlook on life is improved. My brain is functioning again and I'm getting much more work done on my house than ever. It's only been 35 days since I quit but I'm starting to enjoy life again. I'm 39 years young and I smoked the crap for the last 20 years. I'm finished with it. All it does is make me want to sit around play video games. 
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It's 10 times stronger than even when I was in high school (class of '94). Everyone I know including myself has only toked the indoor grown stuff over the past 7 to 8 years. Which is grown with water that has tons of chemicals in it. I can feel the effect it has had on my memory and common sense majorly. I never really considered myself lazy since I've always been a good worker. But I'm doing nothing but work in my time off from work since I stopped. I've finally just quit smoking and feel the change and my outlook on life is improved. My brain is functioning again and I'm getting much more work done on my house than ever. It's only been 35 days since I quit but I'm starting to enjoy life again. I'm 39 years young and I smoked the crap for the last 20 years. I'm finished with it. All it does is make me want to sit around play video games. ...And watch movies. ...And eat! (((MUNCHIES!)))
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these stories about pot sound extremely exaggerated.
I felt more burned out from military abuse. i never felt burned out from smoking pot. pot isn't the reason my knees are giving out on me. pot isn't the reason i wake up with a sore back.
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pot isn't the reason i wake up with a sore back.
That would be because you wore out your mattress by laying on it so much when stoned.
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pot isn't the reason i wake up with a sore back.
That would be because you wore our your mattress by laying on it so much when stoned. wow.
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Get a Fitbit, do 10,000 steps per day and eat right. It might not do much for your knees but it's darn good for your heart.
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I asked my personal Doctor about your condition and he said you lack enough lard in your diet.
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pot isn't the reason i wake up with a sore back.
That would be because you wore our your mattress by laying on it so much when stoned. wow. I'm 69 and it appears that I have more energy than you (not the way it should be though). Then again, I have never smoked pot either... 
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Well, I asked MY personal Doctor and he said:
"Put the lime in the coconut and drink 'em both together
Put the lime in the coconut and you'll feel better
Put the lime in the coconut and drink 'em bot' up
Put the lime in the coconut and call me in the morning"
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It may be the reason you lack energy. Not moving increases the severity of pain.
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I felt more burned out from military abuse. i never felt burned out from smoking pot. pot isn't the reason my knees are giving out on me. pot isn't the reason i wake up with a sore back.
Don't know about pot - but for your back - stretch, stretch, stretch. Get those hammy's stretched out. Obviously, stretching isn't going to fix disc problems, etc. But often times consistent back pain for "no apparent" reason can be helped by stretching.
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You are getting old Swish. Hell, we all are. Question is do you use it as an excuse?
Find a reason to do more and do it.
But hell, don't beat yourself up for having a lazy day or two. We all do. If it becomes habitual, you need to get motivated. What happened to the whole Africa real estate deal?
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i mean...i like it though.I just don't be caring about anything lately.
"bruh, lets go out"
"nah, i'm good"
"dude lets go to this rave"
"but this netflix show is tight"
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"but the new episode of ancient aliens is on" Sounds to me like you just need to find some new interests. It's not uncommon for people your age to start going through that period where they just don't feel like fighting through crowds of 22 year old kids just to get a beer with music pounding so loud you can't even hear yourself think.... Heck you're also married which means finding somebody to hook up with isn't even the objective any more. It was a rough age for my wife too, we had a kid, a lot of her friends were still single and out partying 3 or 4 nights a week. She was happy where she was but at the same time struggling with the fact that she either couldn't or didn't want to, do the things she used to do. Just hang in there and keep your eyes open for new things that interest you..
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32, I'm turning 66 this latter part of July and neighbor I help with his landscape/tree removal business says I can outperform and do twice work younger workers in 20s and 30s do. Oh by way I only help to to stay busy,get Mrs P little extra spending cash (Happy wife,Happy life),since I've been retired (Architectural/Structural design draftsman,aluminum product design draftsman,bulding structural inspector). Guess we are the Great grandpa of the board--HA!!
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Guess we are the Great grandpa of the board--HA!!  . I would suspect that we are very near the top of the list. Now if only the young'uns would show us some respect...
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Swish, I am not that much older than you are and you sound like a lot of my friends. lots of whining about getting older, responsibilities, lack of energy/motivation, etc. It's not that you are getting old (you aren't), you just feel old because you have bad habits-- just like the large majority of people our age.
Start by selling the PS4 and all your games, no matter how much of a loss you take on them. Cancel your Netflix subscription (You can always resubscribe later.)
What do you do on the computer? Most people I know spend way too much time on the internet and this includes smart phones, tablets, and computers. If all you really use them for is to watch random videos, surf the web, social media, games, porn, etc., don't even turn them on. Use them for real work and research only.
Cut back on substances of abuse. If you can't moderate yourself, quit altogether.
Use your free time for positive activities. Go out and party/socialize, exercise, meditate, work on a business/side hustle, spend more time with family; do whatever it is you want to do or know you should do but aren't doing currently. It might seem odd to include partying/socializing in a list of positive activities but most people I know need to do these things more. Too many people just want to stay in and watch TV, play video games, surf the web, etc.
How does all of this affect your energy levels and motivation? I know that I can make a convincing argument as to why, but ultimately it will fall on deaf ears unless you actually do what I'm recommending you do. That is about all I can say about it. You have to willing to be uncomfortable now to pay dividends down the road.
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Move to Fla, take up shuffle board. Don't sell short "Mall Walking".
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Swish, I am not that much older than you are and you sound like a lot of my friends. lots of whining about getting older, responsibilities, lack of energy/motivation, etc. It's not that you are getting old (you aren't), you just feel old because you have bad habits-- just like the large majority of people our age.
Start by selling the PS4 and all your games, no matter how much of a loss you take on them. Cancel your Netflix subscription (You can always resubscribe later.)
What do you do on the computer? Most people I know spend way too much time on the internet and this includes smart phones, tablets, and computers. If all you really use them for is to watch random videos, surf the web, social media, games, porn, etc., don't even turn them on. Use them for real work and research only.
Cut back on substances of abuse. If you can't moderate yourself, quit altogether.
Use your free time for positive activities. Go out and party/socialize, exercise, meditate, work on a business/side hustle, spend more time with family; do whatever it is you want to do or know you should do but aren't doing currently. It might seem odd to include partying/socializing in a list of positive activities but most people I know need to do these things more. Too many people just want to stay in and watch TV, play video games, surf the web, etc.
How does all of this affect your energy levels and motivation? I know that I can make a convincing argument as to why, but ultimately it will fall on deaf ears unless you actually do what I'm recommending you do. That is about all I can say about it. You have to willing to be uncomfortable now to pay dividends down the road. This.....in spades....this. Well said gopher. Although while I do agree with you, I'm not about to sell off all the video games. A man needs some vices.
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Swish, I am not that much older than you are and you sound like a lot of my friends. lots of whining about getting older, responsibilities, lack of energy/motivation, etc. It's not that you are getting old (you aren't), you just feel old because you have bad habits-- just like the large majority of people our age.
Start by selling the PS4 and all your games, no matter how much of a loss you take on them. Cancel your Netflix subscription (You can always resubscribe later.)
What do you do on the computer? Most people I know spend way too much time on the internet and this includes smart phones, tablets, and computers. If all you really use them for is to watch random videos, surf the web, social media, games, porn, etc., don't even turn them on. Use them for real work and research only.
Cut back on substances of abuse. If you can't moderate yourself, quit altogether.
Use your free time for positive activities. Go out and party/socialize, exercise, meditate, work on a business/side hustle, spend more time with family; do whatever it is you want to do or know you should do but aren't doing currently. It might seem odd to include partying/socializing in a list of positive activities but most people I know need to do these things more. Too many people just want to stay in and watch TV, play video games, surf the web, etc.
How does all of this affect your energy levels and motivation? I know that I can make a convincing argument as to why, but ultimately it will fall on deaf ears unless you actually do what I'm recommending you do. That is about all I can say about it. You have to willing to be uncomfortable now to pay dividends down the road. This.....in spades....this. Well said gopher. Although while I do agree with you, I'm not about to sell off all the video games. A man needs some vices. Nicely put hasugopher! Work is my outlet as I own my own businesses and I started working out/exercising 4 days per week in January. I cut back on drinking in January too - makes a HUGE difference. I have a glass of wine or 2 most nights, but that is better than drinking the whole bottle whenever I opened one.
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Guess we are the Great grandpa of the board--HA!! . I would suspect that we are very near the top of the list. Now if only the young'uns would show us some respect... you old farts... add in GM and me and we have a shuffle board team...
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Swish, I am not that much older than you are and you sound like a lot of my friends. lots of whining about getting older, responsibilities, lack of energy/motivation, etc. It's not that you are getting old (you aren't), you just feel old because you have bad habits-- just like the large majority of people our age.
Start by selling the PS4 and all your games, no matter how much of a loss you take on them. Cancel your Netflix subscription (You can always resubscribe later.)
What do you do on the computer? Most people I know spend way too much time on the internet and this includes smart phones, tablets, and computers. If all you really use them for is to watch random videos, surf the web, social media, games, porn, etc., don't even turn them on. Use them for real work and research only.
Cut back on substances of abuse. If you can't moderate yourself, quit altogether.
Use your free time for positive activities. Go out and party/socialize, exercise, meditate, work on a business/side hustle, spend more time with family; do whatever it is you want to do or know you should do but aren't doing currently. It might seem odd to include partying/socializing in a list of positive activities but most people I know need to do these things more. Too many people just want to stay in and watch TV, play video games, surf the web, etc.
How does all of this affect your energy levels and motivation? I know that I can make a convincing argument as to why, but ultimately it will fall on deaf ears unless you actually do what I'm recommending you do. That is about all I can say about it. You have to willing to be uncomfortable now to pay dividends down the road. This.....in spades....this. Well said gopher. Although while I do agree with you, I'm not about to sell off all the video games. A man needs some vices. Nicely put hasugopher! Work is my outlet as I own my own businesses and I started working out/exercising 4 days per week in January. I cut back on drinking in January too - makes a HUGE difference. I have a glass of wine or 2 most nights, but that is better than drinking the whole bottle whenever I opened one. Amen to all of that. I read an interesting article the other day (that I can't find right now).. it was aimed at kids but I would imagine it applies to adults as well. The article outlined internet usage and how successful kids use the internet and technology as a tool to advance and better themselves, unsuccessful kids use it mindlessly. Swish, you previously made a post about wanting to be a part of the 1%... I doubt that circle of people spend a lot of time getting high and playing video games.. (except possibly the rich athletes and entertainers)... if you want to do it in business, then that has to be your focus. On a side note, I hope you get out of the funk you seem to be in... I think everybody goes through them once in a while, just persevere and look for things to change... as the old saying goes, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results".... so if you aren't seeing any changes or improvements, it's probably because you haven't tried to do anything different.
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Swish, I am not that much older than you are and you sound like a lot of my friends. lots of whining about getting older, responsibilities, lack of energy/motivation, etc. It's not that you are getting old (you aren't), you just feel old because you have bad habits-- just like the large majority of people our age.
Start by selling the PS4 and all your games, no matter how much of a loss you take on them. Cancel your Netflix subscription (You can always resubscribe later.)
What do you do on the computer? Most people I know spend way too much time on the internet and this includes smart phones, tablets, and computers. If all you really use them for is to watch random videos, surf the web, social media, games, porn, etc., don't even turn them on. Use them for real work and research only.
Cut back on substances of abuse. If you can't moderate yourself, quit altogether.
Use your free time for positive activities. Go out and party/socialize, exercise, meditate, work on a business/side hustle, spend more time with family; do whatever it is you want to do or know you should do but aren't doing currently. It might seem odd to include partying/socializing in a list of positive activities but most people I know need to do these things more. Too many people just want to stay in and watch TV, play video games, surf the web, etc.
How does all of this affect your energy levels and motivation? I know that I can make a convincing argument as to why, but ultimately it will fall on deaf ears unless you actually do what I'm recommending you do. That is about all I can say about it. You have to willing to be uncomfortable now to pay dividends down the road. This.....in spades....this. Well said gopher. Although while I do agree with you, I'm not about to sell off all the video games. A man needs some vices. There's nothing wrong with having some vices if you can control yourself. If you can just play a couple hours here and there, not think about them too much, and are generally on top of things and it's not causing any problems in life then that is obviously fine. The thing is, people (and kids especially) today have so many vices. Some video games today are so good, so realistic, so fun, and so addicting. I remember growing up, I lived in a neighborhood with a lot of kids who were 2-3 years older than I was (I was born in 1985.) We would be outside constantly, running around, play sports and other games outside-- just general things that kids do (or as the case may be.. used to do.) A funny thing happened-- I stopped hanging out with those kids. People moved or grew up and found new friends. Most of my friends were around my age and all we really did was play video games. GoldenEye anyone? Now this is a tiny sample size and likely ridden with personal bias but at least to me, it is amazing how fast things changed. Think about the males you know in your life. Compare the ones who were born before 1982-83 or so to those who were born after 1985-86. Among the guys I know, the latter group has far worse issues with gaming than the former, even far more than age alone would suggest. They grew up on 3D gaming which is far more addicting than NES/Sega/SNES stuff. As someone who played a LOT of video games over the years, I can honestly say quitting was one of the best things I've ever done. It dramatically improved my quality of life. Even now, I pick up a game here and there and I can hardly control myself. I'm just too competitive and get too hooked. Not everyone is like this but some certainly are. Anyway, I walk around my neighborhood now, and I swear it seems like hardly anyone ever goes outside anymore. Kids running around playing sports? just doesn't happen-- not around here anyway. It seems like yards mostly exist to do yard work. You know those commercials for Game of War with the ridiculously hot Kate Upton? I've never played the game personally but I've played ones similar enough and am well aware of the 'freemium' business model where it's free to download/install, and play at a low level of functionality but you pay real money for better upgrades, weapons, etc. This one game alone brings in upwards of $1 million revenue per day from these transactions. Candy Crush Saga? Get people hooked on these games and it is astounding how much money they will spend on them. Of course the real damage is the time and addiction-related brain changes.
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Swish, I am not that much older than you are and you sound like a lot of my friends. lots of whining about getting older, responsibilities, lack of energy/motivation, etc. It's not that you are getting old (you aren't), you just feel old because you have bad habits-- just like the large majority of people our age.
Start by selling the PS4 and all your games, no matter how much of a loss you take on them. Cancel your Netflix subscription (You can always resubscribe later.)
What do you do on the computer? Most people I know spend way too much time on the internet and this includes smart phones, tablets, and computers. If all you really use them for is to watch random videos, surf the web, social media, games, porn, etc., don't even turn them on. Use them for real work and research only.
Cut back on substances of abuse. If you can't moderate yourself, quit altogether.
Use your free time for positive activities. Go out and party/socialize, exercise, meditate, work on a business/side hustle, spend more time with family; do whatever it is you want to do or know you should do but aren't doing currently. It might seem odd to include partying/socializing in a list of positive activities but most people I know need to do these things more. Too many people just want to stay in and watch TV, play video games, surf the web, etc.
How does all of this affect your energy levels and motivation? I know that I can make a convincing argument as to why, but ultimately it will fall on deaf ears unless you actually do what I'm recommending you do. That is about all I can say about it. You have to willing to be uncomfortable now to pay dividends down the road. This.....in spades....this. Well said gopher. Although while I do agree with you, I'm not about to sell off all the video games. A man needs some vices. There's nothing wrong with having some vices if you can control yourself. If you can just play a couple hours here and there, not think about them too much, and are generally on top of things and it's not causing any problems in life then that is obviously fine. The thing is, people (and kids especially) today have so many vices. Some video games today are so good, so realistic, so fun, and so addicting. I remember growing up, I lived in a neighborhood with a lot of kids who were 2-3 years older than I was (I was born in 1985.) We would be outside constantly, running around, play sports and other games outside-- just general things that kids do (or as the case may be.. used to do.) A funny thing happened-- I stopped hanging out with those kids. People moved or grew up and found new friends. Most of my friends were around my age and all we really did was play video games. GoldenEye anyone? Now this is a tiny sample size and likely ridden with personal bias but at least to me, it is amazing how fast things changed. Think about the males you know in your life. Compare the ones who were born before 1982-83 or so to those who were born after 1985-86. Among the guys I know, the latter group has far worse issues with gaming than the former, even far more than age alone would suggest. They grew up on 3D gaming which is far more addicting than NES/Sega/SNES stuff. As someone who played a LOT of video games over the years, I can honestly say quitting was one of the best things I've ever done. It dramatically improved my quality of life. Even now, I pick up a game here and there and I can hardly control myself. I'm just too competitive and get too hooked. Not everyone is like this but some certainly are. Anyway, I walk around my neighborhood now, and I swear it seems like hardly anyone ever goes outside anymore. Kids running around playing sports? just doesn't happen-- not around here anyway. It seems like yards mostly exist to do yard work. You know those commercials for Game of War with the ridiculously hot Kate Upton? I've never played the game personally but I've played ones similar enough and am well aware of the 'freemium' business model where it's free to download/install, and play at a low level of functionality but you pay real money for better upgrades, weapons, etc. This one game alone brings in upwards of $1 million revenue per day from these transactions. Candy Crush Saga? Get people hooked on these games and it is astounding how much money they will spend on them. Of course the real damage is the time and addiction-related brain changes. I played ever-quest from 2000-2002, I quit and sold 2 of my accounts one on ebay, the other to a friend (who I ruined his life lol). It was one of the best decision I ever made, I refer those days as my dark days. Ordering take out every day, mountain dew towers, 15-16 hours of gaming 4-5 days a week. I still like games but don;t have the time, or the commitment to make the time.
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MMORPGs seem particularly addicting. They combine a lot of elements of action, achievement/rewards (e.g. leveling up), a social component, constant novelty and new worlds, etc. I played FFXI Online for some time and I know what you mean about the time commitment.
WoW came after that. I had a friend who literally almost died playing that game. From what I gathered, it was a 2 or 3 day marathon session with red bull towers and he had a heart attack. I know several people who got deep into WoW but nobody quite like him.
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I stopped taking the crazy pills from the VA...feeling better a bit.
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I had a period of time when I was feeling less energy, granted I was 50 at the time. Had a physical and found out it was low iron due to an ulcer bleed. Like others have stated get some blood work done, they may or may not find something. Another thing that causes energy loss is depression. Not sure if you have it or not, but something to think about. I live in Military City (San Antonio) and lots of vets suffer from it.
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You got any left you won't be needing? 
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i don't think you want these pills man.
when i started taking them i felt.....i dunno drained, especially mentally. i was suuuuupppper angry all the time, the opposite of what they said it was suppose to be doing.
they suck.
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i don't think you want these pills man.
when i started taking them i felt.....i dunno drained, especially mentally. i was suuuuupppper angry all the time, the opposite of what they said it was suppose to be doing.
they suck. I feel you. I hated being on depression pills. You really don't feel like yourself whatsoever.
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i don't think you want these pills man.
when i started taking them i felt.....i dunno drained, especially mentally. i was suuuuupppper angry all the time, the opposite of what they said it was suppose to be doing.
they suck. I feel you. I hated being on depression pills. You really don't feel like yourself whatsoever. yea bro definitely.
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But if they would make me different then maybe I wouldn't argue with you two guys all the time. Could be to your advantage.  You might even have a chance of winning once in a while.
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But if they would make me different then maybe I wouldn't argue with you two guys all the time. Could be to your advantage. You might even have a chance of winning once in a while. i'm pretty sure me and CHS are happy with our W:L ratio with regards to you bro. we don't need you to be further handicapped.
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I've been trying to have Swish give me his "medication" for a few months now. You're not shaking anything out of him  Come to think of it, maybe you are taking some of Swish's medicine. It'd make sense if you think you've beat us
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I've been trying to have Swish give me his "medication" for a few months now. You're not shaking anything out of him Come to think of it, maybe you are taking some of Swish's medicine. It'd make sense if you think you've beat us lmao
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But if they would make me different then maybe I wouldn't argue with you two guys all the time. Could be to your advantage. You might even have a chance of winning once in a while. i'm pretty sure me and CHS are happy with our W:L ratio with regards to you bro. we don't need you to be further handicapped. If you guys are satisfied with your poor record then you ain't no Browns fans! Sorry, went too far on that one.  Go Browns.
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