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It's time for the Ancient Aliens guy picture to be posted…


Why? Does it make it easier to debunk claims when you have his picture up?

There are plenty of things that have not been explained in just human history. The best example I can think of are South American natives that were able to cut and move 100 ton andecite stones, then set them in place so tightly they didn't need any mortar. I also like how the Egyptians were able to polish stone flat to 1/1000th of an inch, or how many of their repeated hyroglyphs on the same stone will be exact in measurements. These are evidence of a technology we have lost. I don't know what was involved with making a lot of these monuments, but I am sure they were using some sort of power tools, as a person cannot hand carve two exact copies.


Because this thread is becoming ridiculous and the Ancient Aliens guy says ridiculous like no other. Let's just take one quote.

"This was carved into Ankor Wat in cambodia some 5-8 thousand years ago long before we knew about dinosaurs."

Angkor Wat was built in the 12th century.


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Let's just take one quote.

"This was carved into Ankor Wat in cambodia some 5-8 thousand years ago long before we knew about dinosaurs."

Angkor Wat was built in the 12th century.


Ok. How did they know what dinosaurs looked like in the 12th century?


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Sorry, there are no aliens. Nothing out there but us.


As I said, "alien" doesn't necessarily mean little green men. If there were a God or Allah who built the pyramids, it would be "alien" technology. Golf courses are maintained and oranges are picked by aliens. And how exactly would you know there's nothing but us, given that we know less than 10% of the universe?


Twist it any way you want but there is nothing out there but us. All the evidence agrees with what I say but you just can't handle this truth. Every place we have been, every stone overturned, Sterile. Everything in Space is more sterile than a Surgeons scalpel. Nothing lives or has ever lived out there.

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Let's just take one quote.

"This was carved into Ankor Wat in cambodia some 5-8 thousand years ago long before we knew about dinosaurs."

Angkor Wat was built in the 12th century.


Ok. How did they know what dinosaurs looked like in the 12th century?


Ok, how do you know it's a dinosaur and not just a bad rock artist?


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This is a topic that always causes debate and awkward conversations between myself and my fellow Christian friends. They're also the type that believes FEMA has concentration camps for Christians in Alaska.

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Let's just take one quote.

"This was carved into Ankor Wat in cambodia some 5-8 thousand years ago long before we knew about dinosaurs."

Angkor Wat was built in the 12th century.


Ok. How did they know what dinosaurs looked like in the 12th century?


Ok, how do you know it's a dinosaur and not just a bad rock artist?


That would make a very interesting coincidence, wouldn't it? Just imagine the odds of someone creating a fairly accurate depiction of an animal that he never would have known existed.


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Possibly for you but I don't find it that interesting at all.


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They're also the type that believes FEMA has concentration camps for Christians in Alaska.


I better start looking for those.

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Possibly for you but I don't find it that interesting at all.


Let me see if I have this right. You see photos of a temple complex built in the 12th century that has depictions of animals that are still around today, and at least one showing an animal that has been extinct for 63 million years that you claim is mere chance, and you don't find it interesting? Why are you even posting about it?


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They're also the type that believes FEMA has concentration camps for Christians in Alaska.


I better start looking for those.


Infowars.com. Alex Jones has been taking pictures of those sites for years. Oddly enough, the barbed wire is on the inside of the fences.


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Occam's Razor suggests the simplest explanation is usually correct. The simple explanation isn't "Oh, here's some proof that dinosaurs exist during the timeline despite a geologic time scale which proves quite the contrary!"

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Occam's Razor suggests the simplest explanation is usually correct. The simple explanation isn't "Oh, here's some proof that dinosaurs exist during the timeline despite a geologic time scale which proves quite the contrary!"


First of all, let me be very clear that I am not a believer of the New Earth theory. Don't forget that Occam's Razor theory would also suggest that the sun goes around the earth, as that is how it appears from earth.


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Maybe they found fossils or watched the Flintstones.

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Possibly for you but I don't find it that interesting at all.


Let me see if I have this right. You see photos of a temple complex built in the 12th century that has depictions of animals that are still around today, and at least one showing an animal that has been extinct for 63 million years that you claim is mere chance, and you don't find it interesting? Why are you even posting about it?


Your the one that started asking me questions. I just posted a smart ass remark about Ancient Aliens.


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Maybe they found fossils or watched the Flintstones.


What was it you were saying about Wacko's earlier? rofl

Finding a fossil doesn't tell you what a Dinosaur looked like with its flesh on! Those carvings had complete Dinosaurs, eating a bowl of General Tsao's Chicken!

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Your the one that started asking me questions. I just posted a smart ass remark about Ancient Aliens.


I asked you questions because you replied to my post to someone else and mentioned the ancient aliens guy. If it doesn't interest you, don't post.


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What amazes me is how some people can be so sure there isn't any life on any other planet in the entire universe.

There are uncounted solar systems across the universe. In our solar system, we are the only planet that contains life. Yet of the millions of other solar systems in the universe, surely people can't honestly say that there isn't a high probability that life exists somewhere out there.

Now that life form could simply be water, or some simplistic multi celled organism, but the high probability that some type of life exists somewhere within the universe does exist.


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Maybe they found fossils or watched the Flintstones.


Are you claiming they invented TV 800 years before John Baird, and that they received transmissions from the 1960s? And here I thought some of my ideas were silly.


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my issue with some of your guy's idea's is that, in this is a general comment about a lot of people who think Creationism is legit, that they have no problem with carbon dating and nuclear dating with all the other stuff, but the moment it starts predating the bible, then it's "shaky science".


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Mentioning the Angor Wat dinosaur as proof that man walked with dinosaurs only works if the stegosaurus existed in the 12th century. There is even concern that this sculpture may have been a hoax carved in the last few years.

Even if the sculpture was made in the 12th century, there are a whole host of lizard species in Cambodia including gliding lizards which have wing like appendages. The Chinese dragon also has plates along its back in drawings. Just because the image may look to you or me like a stegosaurus does not mean these creatures existed 800 years ago.


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Your the one that started asking me questions. I just posted a smart ass remark about Ancient Aliens.


I asked you questions because you replied to my post to someone else and mentioned the ancient aliens guy. If it doesn't interest you, don't post.


I was unaware you were my posting guardian. I'll be sure and check with you and when I can and can't post in the future.


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Your the one that started asking me questions. I just posted a smart ass remark about Ancient Aliens.


I asked you questions because you replied to my post to someone else and mentioned the ancient aliens guy. If it doesn't interest you, don't post.


I was unaware you were my posting guardian. I'll be sure and check with you and when I can and can't post in the future.


I'm not, but I still fail to understand why you would be posting on something that holds no interest for you, unless you were just trying to be a smartass in the first place.


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Maybe they found fossils or watched the Flintstones.


Are you claiming they invented TV 800 years before John Baird, and that they received transmissions from the 1960s? And here I thought some of my ideas were silly.
TV signals from Ancient Alien Astronauts.

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What amazes me is that some think while life may exist in another solar system (and I don't discount that notion) they'd be advanced enough to traverse the endless corners of the universe to find our fly-speck of a solar system on the outer rim of a rather small, by comparison, galaxy on the bad side of the celestial tracks. Then bother to come here, teach us to carve animals on rocks and dig lines in the dirt.

Why not skip to the good stuff and show us how to make polymers?


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What amazes me is how some people can be so sure there isn't any life on any other planet in the entire universe.

There are uncounted solar systems across the universe. In our solar system, we are the only planet that contains life. Yet of the millions of other solar systems in the universe, surely people can't honestly say that there isn't a high probability that life exists somewhere out there.

Now that life form could simply be water, or some simplistic multi celled organism, but the high probability that some type of life exists somewhere within the universe does exist.


First of all, "some people" rolleyes already know that water is not a life form.

Secondly, "some people" rolleyes will give you one quarter of one percent of the entire earth to find no signs of life. You will find life everywhere, even on the rim of a nuke plant discharge.
In space, we find sterile. Nothing ever lived out there. That is evidence and not the silly, hopeful wish of "some people".

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In space, we find sterile. Nothing ever lived out there. That is evidence and not the silly, hopeful wish of "some people".


You're quite wrong about that. Fosillized microorganisms have been found within nonterrestrial meteorites. We have even found that certain terrestrial organisms, like salmonella, actually thrive in space and become more lethal.


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We've literally scraped the surface of mars. I'd like to dig much deeper into the soil to see if any fossils do exist.

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What amazes me is that some think while life may exist in another solar system (and I don't discount that notion) they'd be advanced enough to traverse the endless corners of the universe to find our fly-speck of a solar system on the outer rim of a rather small, by comparison, galaxy on the bad side of the celestial tracks. Then bother to come here, teach us to carve animals on rocks and dig lines in the dirt.

Why not skip to the good stuff and show us how to make polymers?


Perhaps they were Government funded Liberal aliens!

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What amazes me is how some people can be so sure there isn't any life on any other planet in the entire universe.

There are uncounted solar systems across the universe. In our solar system, we are the only planet that contains life. Yet of the millions of other solar systems in the universe, surely people can't honestly say that there isn't a high probability that life exists somewhere out there.

Now that life form could simply be water, or some simplistic multi celled organism, but the high probability that some type of life exists somewhere within the universe does exist.


First of all, "some people" rolleyes already know that water is not a life form.

Secondly, "some people" rolleyes will give you one quarter of one percent of the entire earth to find no signs of life. You will find life everywhere, even on the rim of a nuke plant discharge.
In space, we find sterile. Nothing ever lived out there. That is evidence and not the silly, hopeful wish of "some people".


we don't have the capabilities to explore everything just yet.

and you don't know anything.

people said it was impossible to break the sound barrier, find the "God" particle, the Earth was flat, it revolved around the sun, ETC.

so how bout you chill out with the "hopeful wish" comments.

people like you are the reason we've become stagnate at being explorers as a country. Why Europeans and Asians still have a space program while we cut the budget.


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What amazes me is that some think while life may exist in another solar system (and I don't discount that notion) they'd be advanced enough to traverse the endless corners of the universe to find our fly-speck of a solar system on the outer rim of a rather small, by comparison, galaxy on the bad side of the celestial tracks. Then bother to come here, teach us to carve animals on rocks and dig lines in the dirt.

Why not skip to the good stuff and show us how to make polymers?


there's a bunch of theories by scientist, and some could hold some weight if you think about it.

one is with the big bang/creation of universe thing. well, what if the aliens haven't developed the capabilities either?

the other is this: when we look at the stars, we are looking at the past. remember the speed of light, so the light from the stars takes light years to travel to us to see.

and advance species could've looked at Earth, and Saw dinosaurs, so they didn't see signs of actual intelligent life at that time, and thus deemed the Earth a waste of time to interact with.

there's a bunch of other theories.


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We've literally scraped the surface of mars. I'd like to dig much deeper into the soil to see if any fossils do exist.


Waste your time all you want, get back to me when you realize
I am right and nothing else is alive but earth.

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Why not skip to the good stuff and show us how to make polymers?


They'd have to teach the monkeys to bang rocks together to make sparks first, don't you think?


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All the evidence says I am right. You keep on wishin and hopin.

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First of all, "some people" rolleyes already know that water is not a life form.

Secondly, "some people" rolleyes will give you one quarter of one percent of the entire earth to find no signs of life. You will find life everywhere, even on the rim of a nuke plant discharge.
In space, we find sterile. Nothing ever lived out there. That is evidence and not the silly, hopeful wish of "some people".


You base that on one single solar system in the entire universe.

Well all-righty then.

Anyone who's heard of a microscope knows water is a living thing.


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Why not skip to the good stuff and show us how to make polymers?


They'd have to teach the monkeys to bang rocks together to make sparks first, don't you think?


No, our footprints were walked on by dinosaurs, didn't you see the picture! It's twue!


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In space, we find sterile. Nothing ever lived out there. That is evidence and not the silly, hopeful wish of "some people".


You're quite wrong about that. Fosillized microorganisms have been found within nonterrestrial meteorites. We have even found that certain terrestrial organisms, like salmonella, actually thrive in space and become more lethal.


Look it up, all the bacteria fossils they found in meteorites on earth came from the earth. They quickly formed on those meteorites because they were here.

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Why not skip to the good stuff and show us how to make polymers?


They'd have to teach the monkeys to bang rocks together to make sparks first, don't you think?


No, our footprints were walked on by dinosaurs, didn't you see the picture! It's twue!


I learned something new from all this...
Ancient Monkeys wore Boots!

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Twist it any way you want but there is nothing out there but us. All the evidence agrees with what I say but you just can't handle this truth. Every place we have been, every stone overturned, Sterile. Everything in Space is more sterile than a Surgeons scalpel. Nothing lives or has ever lived out there.


Are you under the impression that we've overturned every stone in the universe, to use your words? A better analogy would be that we've dipped a toe in the Atlantic Ocean.

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Anyone who's heard of a microscope knows water is a living thing.


Come on man, snap out of it.

Nonliving things, such as water, do not need food and oxygen to survive and do not respond to external stimuli because they cannot feel. Water, however, can carry nutrients and oxygen to living things. It is also present in the bodies of living organisms, in the air and even underground. Water, though nonliving, greatly affects the survival of all the organisms that depend on it.

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I would guess that if one were able to venture a hundred years into the future, they would find much of what we consider advanced to be "shaky science". Science is the model we should be using as a determination for a host of societal decisions, but we should still be skeptical nonetheless.

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