DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Johnny Manziel...continued x2

Again, he says all the right things but will it translate to the field?

It's McCown. Pettine has made that quite clear.

And it doesn't sound like Manziel is practicing well.

I'm hoping by the end of TC and preseason that Manziel is at least flashing some talent and potential.

I hope so! He seems to be a little different now, more humble if nothing else.

Man, stole the words from my mouth!

Here are a few quick highlights:

* He said the Johnny Football personna overtook and he wants to quiet the noise. "The money sign will not be back.''

* He said he doesn't want to talk about going to rehab and all that it entailed. "I'm trying to close a chapter on my life.''

* He acknowledged, "I was a little bit of a distraction last year and I feel bad about that.''

* He graded his two starts last season as a "disaster.''

* He regretted that his teammates have had to answer endless questions about him.

* He said we'll know he's different this year "by my actions.''

* He said, "I haven't given up on the fact the Browns brought me in here to be a first-round pick.

* He admitted he's "not proud of the chapter'' of his life that was his tumultuous 2014 season.

1. They drafted an undersized QB who had a history of problems. His parents offered to buy him a new vehicle if he would stay sober in his junior and senior year of high school and he couldn't do it.

Quote:
In a New York Times article in 2012, Manziel's father, Paul, revealed that he made a deal with Manziel when he was in high school: He'd buy him a new car if he abstained from alcohol during his junior and senior years. But one summer night, a store security guard smelled alcohol on Manziel's breath and called the police. Manziel was taken to jail, and his father picked him up the next day.

Paul made Manziel pay the fine, and told the judge to double Manziel's community service from 10 hours to 20. He also replaced the new car with an old pickup truck that often broke down on the way to school.

When Manziel was at Texas A&M, his parents went back to the car well again, buying him a shiny, red Camaro if he promised to be a model citizen, according to the New York Times article.

"We have to keep him focused; Johnny needs incentives," Michelle Manziel said. Paul added, "Johnny needs structure all the time, because down time for Johnny is the worst time."

But Manziel had another brush with the law when he was arrested at Texas A&M in the summer of 2012 for a bar fight during which he came to the defense of a friend. Manziel, who was too intoxicated to answer questions according to the police report, spent the night in jail and ultimately pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. He was also ordered by first-year Texas A&M coach Kevin Sumlin to undergo random drug testing and drug and alcohol counseling.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/02/how_johnny_manziel_raised_his.html

What a refreshing 1st press conference from a man coming from rehab and trying to live up to first round draft expectations. I admired his sincerity throughout and wish him the utmost success. Show em Johnny. Show the flashes of greatness we all saw at Texas a&m and we will once and for all have the leader we've longed for since Bernie Kosar . Take us to the promised land and prove all the naysayers wrong. I'm certainly in your corner and a believer. How bout the rest of you DAWGS?

An open mind or baseless optimism? If Manziel gave even a kernel of something to inspire hope, I would latch onto it. But his career to date has been a punchline with no silver lining.

I would not be opposed to the idea of starting McCown this year.

Giving Manziel all season to take in the playbook.

And then handing him the reigns next season.

I think our record (at least 6 wins IMO) will keep us out of any Rookie QB talk..

And at some point you might as well go with the guy you drafted.. We still have him under contract for possibly 2-3 years AFTER this season..

Let him learn, and then put him to work.

The one thing that kinda caught my attention was when he said he arrives early and he and josh do their thang

Yeah sounded like he was going thru the motions to me too.

How did you get that out of what he said.. What did I miss..

He didn't get that out of his post. But I'm sure you already know why he posted that. #Hoyer>EveryQBever

..jc...

The boy sure knows how to talk the talk..how to say the right things to buy himself more time.

JM is going to get another opportunity to show what he can do on the field...that is when the most important evaluation begins...can the Browns win with Manziel at QB?

Well how bout his 80 yard drive in the Buffalo series in the Hoyer O scheme that all practiced in all year. That series gave me hope.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Browns quarterback Brian Hoyer orchestrated a Music City Miracle Sunday against the Titans.

He put 26 unanswered points on the board to bring the Browns back from a 28-3 deficit in the second quarter and defeat the Titans, 29-28.

It marked the biggest comeback in Browns history, the previous being a 20-point deficit in 1966, a 49-40 victory over the Giants. It was also the largest comeback the Titans have allowed in defeat and the largest road comeback in NFL history.

"I did tell them after the game that they've got to stop doing it,'' coach Mike Pettine joked about falling behind by 25 points. "I have an EKG scheduled for tomorrow because my heart can't take many more of these.''

The game-winning touchdown pass was a 6-yarder to Travis Benjamin in the back left corner of the end zone with 1:09 left in the game. Hoyer completed 21 of 37 attempts for 292 yards with three touchdown passes and one interception for a 98.0 rating.

"I think our fans are excited,'' said Hoyer, who improved to 5-2 in a Browns uniform. "I hope none of them are in the ER.''

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As eo said, If Johnny could recapture that 80 yard Buffalo drive Johnny, then we would be cooking. I hope that wasn't just a flash in the pan.

Well how bout his 80 yard drive in the Buffalo series in the Hoyer O scheme that all practiced in all year. That series gave me hope.

..jc...

The boy sure knows how to talk the talk..how to say the right things to buy himself more time.

JM is going to get another opportunity to show what he can do on the field...that is when the most important evaluation begins...can the Browns win with Manziel at QB?

All our hopes for a successful season hinge on McCown having a Gannon type uprising.

The praises for McCown are astonishing to me. The lack of praise for Manziel is alarming. DeFlip praising him for getting to his third progression on a play is akin to treating him like third grader who needs a pat on the back to keep his self esteem up. He's so far behind being an NFL QB it's depressing. It's obvious Pettine has zero confidence in the kid and he sees him everyday.