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If he was so upset with a 2nd round tender..

How many teams did he expect to talk contract with if he cost a 1st round pick?

If they tendered him with a first rounder, he'd make like a million more dollars. That's my low understanding of it. It's about the $.

There has been "nothing" to indicate that the knee has anything to do with him not being able to practice. Nothing.

The sprain was not a consideration since it was simply a sprain and did not require surgery.

I'm not sure that would be a wise move. What is his leverage? Unless I'm mistaken, I don't believe anyone was wiling to surrender a second round pick for Gipson. A second round doesn't seem like a high price for a legit pro-bowl safety.

One thing I question. Is Gipson's play a product of good CBs, or is it Gipson's play making the CB better? I like Gipson. I also like Poyer. How much talent drops off replacing Gipson with Poyer?

Leonhard filled in for Gipson, but Leonhard is slow. Poyer brings speed, but Jordan lacked experience last year. Poyer is coming into his third year just like Gipson last year. Poyer's game could potentially equal Gipson.

Personally, I look forward seeing Gipson and Poyer battle this training camp.

Good post. WE could end up with not only a good player in Gipson but another one in Poyer.

The team is unlikely to give any details about the knee or the hammy - be they related or not. I think it's the same leg in any event.

Call it what you like...he stayed away...now he's riding the bike in mini-camp...he can't practice...hasn't practiced or played since last year. I'd say that's a consideration...you disagree...no biggie.

The Browns played this just as well as the other 31 teams in the league who were unwilling to give up a 2nd Rd pick and big $$$ for a pro bowl player coming off a season-ending knee injury who still can't practice.

FWIW: I really like Gipson and his story and I hope he comes back better than ever.

O linemen to be exact.

If they had offered Mack a fair contract he wouldn't have reached FA nor would they have had to transition tag him then end up with the poison pill opt out. 2 + 2 still does equal 4 right?

There is a pattern here of letting our best talent reach FA then trying to sign them when the leverage is gone. What that has done is it has meant the near lose of Mack and the poison pill opt out. Skrine left, and Cameron left, and this year I strongly suspect others will follow.



Why would a player opt out of a contract of the same value, does that mean he said I have had enough? Look sign the guy up during the season or before, pay fair market value. Most players (this is business) will take the security over leaving even if they think they can get better money thru FA. We do the cheep thing and wait it out saving dollars and lose out in FA.

But what it really amounts to is being fair and paying a player according to his value to the team.



They wanted him back, and they knew they wanted him back going back to last off season why not pay him and give him the security all players value. Short of that get a deal done in November, but get it done. The Browns at this point are letting proven talent get away. Meanwhile it appears they are also alienating those players to the point that they won't re sign. Its a balancing act to be sure but sometimes you just have to go the extra mile with a player it builds confidence in the player and it spreds good will within the locker room. It says we will take care of our own and we will be fair.



Of course Poyer has studded out in shorts with no contact. Really Tabber come on. Gipson is not so easy to replace he has great instincts and is one of the very few difference makers we have. Save the Poyer studding out speach for the uninformed.

I wouldn't sit out the season just until week 10....

Whats wrong with being fair? You think the players don't notice...

Oh and while we are taking jabs at each other (Hoyer comment). You always take the side of management from year to year its always the same the FO/coaching staff can do no wrong.

Also in interesting news, Tashaun Gipson said that the Browns and his camp are still in contract negotiations. He seems pretty optimistic about getting a deal done.

http://www.dawgpoundnation.com/2015/07/31/browns-training-camp-day-two-observations/

I remember that when he did report, he had some kind of injury. I'd like to know what that injury was.

hammy

God I hope so. I gotta get another jersey before the season starts. I sport Joe Haden. But after him, it's just so risky. Gipson would be a great bet if they get a deal done. Doing this would keep me from having to throw in the towel and buy an O-Line jersey. lol


Honestly though. We need to re-sign some of our guys. Sheard and Cameron going is fine. But Gipson is a great story and a very talented player. He's a true FS, which seems hard to find lately. And I just like it. A guy who knows what it takes to be in the NFL. Worked for everything he has.