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Amazon just pulled all it's confederate flag merchandise.

What if a photo of Roof holding a bottle of Heinz ketchup been spread on the internet. Does public opinion on Heinz ketchup suddenly change causing mass outrage? It's two completely different things, I understand that.

This is hardly an issue of the overly sensitive. If one can't see why that flag being sanctioned by government could be offensive to someone, then that person lacks empathy.

That would be great, then we could start petitions to get the Steelers to change the name of their stadium because it's offensive.

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I think this whole issue really just leads to proving that we don't really have free speech any more. Not even close... Please don't quote the first amendment to me, I know what it says.. and I know that actions have consequences and blahblahblah.... but with social media, with the internet, these flash mobs of social do-gooders can spring up over night, attacking their cause du jour... and the social response can appear to be so grossly out of scale with the issue they are going after, that even a lot of relatively mundane events take on a life of their own.. and where the response to most "offensive things" used to be local or maybe regional, it's now global. For example, I've seen things pop up on my web feed about what Europeans think of the confederate flag.. who gives a crap what European's think of the confederate flag? Why would anybody even ask a European what they think of it? but a bunch of them are on social media whining about it... so it must be real.

Just caught up on some HBO. "The Confederate flag is one of those symbols that should really only be seen on T-shirts, belt buckles and bumper stickers to help the rest of us identify the worst people in the world." - John Oliver

If the flag doesn't symbolize racism then why do racists use it so prominently?

Because it was easier than designing and manufacturing their own design, more so than what they intend it to stand for?

If the flag doesn't symbolize racism then why do racists use it so prominently?

There were and are plenty of options for them yet they decided they would rather represent their views with a battle flag.

I don't know.. why do gay people use the rainbow, which for centuries has been a symbol that God will never again wipe out the world with a flood?

If the flag doesn't symbolize racism then why do racists use it so prominently?

I'm not from the south, so I have no...feel? for the community down there(I think this a valid perspective we need to take).

But I will say this:



Now, for those of you who live under a rock, that's Lil Jon and the Eastside Boys. For everybody who doesn't live under a rock, we already know how insanely popular Lil Jon is.

And I noticed that a lot with southern blacks, at least the ones i served with in the military, they all rep the Flag.

So what we up north typically see as a symbol of racism, oppressing, and just being a rebel(without a cause? lol....i'll stop), they see it as just a symbol of the south, a culture that is actually different from anywhere else in the country.

So i dunno if it's fair to put it in the same realm of an ISIS or Nazi flag. I can see the argument for it, as well as being against it.

Why don't people remember that southern democrats were the party of the confederacy? Why don't people remember that jim crow laws were passed by democrats in the south?

Should we ban white sheets because the klan likes to wear them?

We can find negative connotation in anything if we want. Jeans are made from cotton, cotton was a huge reason for slavery. We shouldn't wear jeans.

Why didn't Amazon pull their Nazi/Swastika merchandise?

Our national and social media didn't cause a massive uproar telling people to hate it...

Is that why MLK never wore jeans? Because racism?

There's a lot of flags that could easily represent State rights (Something like a state flag) or membership in the destroyed CSA (Like the CSA flag or maybe a plain white flag). However, the South uses a battle flag that has been fully perversed by racists who have been waving it around during lunches and Jim Crow and then pretends that it has nothing to do with slavery.

Why didn't Amazon pull their Nazi/Swastika merchandise?

Our national and social media didn't cause a massive uproar telling people to hate it...

The Ghosts local 571 will probably sue.

People who proudly have Nazi merchandise only have it to show their German Pride. I'm insulted that you insinuate that Nazi's had anything to do with the Holocaust. What do you know about Germany? Have you been there? Have you lived in Germany?

I guess you just have to live in the south to understand it has 2 meanings.

1 is that of slavery, if the KKK had chosen the US flag as their banner, would we ban it?

The other is what they call the Confederate Flag(Which it really wasn't), Dixie Flag, Stars and Bars, which to them represent they live south of the Mason Dixie line, southern heritage, born of the south, redneck (not a negative term here in the south either, it's claimed with pride).

FORT MYERS -
There could soon be protests in downtown Fort Myers over the portrait of Robert E. Lee that hangs in Lee County Commission Chambers.

It's a lengthy battle, but we learned the local NAACP doesn't have a problem with the portrait of the man—it's what he's wearing that offends them.

"No, no, the real issue is that confederate uniform, that's the real issue," says Lee County NAACP Board Member Shirley Chapman. More so than his face, is the confederate uniform. Put him in a black suit, do something different."

Last week commissioners passed on the chance to publicly address the picture. In response, the local NAACP sent an email stating Lee stands for racism.

Now, the national NAACP organization is supporting the local branches' want to protest and picket Lee County government.

Commissioner Frank Mann says this is about more than removing a portrait. "Let's quit lollygagging around with this thing, and let's address the real issue. That's the name of the county and if they want to change the name of the county you have to do that with the legislature," says Mann.

But the local NAACP disagrees. "We know the county is named, and we don't expect to go back and change the county name," says Chapman.

The NAACP is still prepping for their best case scenario, which Chapman says would be relocating the portrait. She hopes the worst doesn't play out.

"That means the portrait would remain and there would be a lot of adversity," she says.

There is no timetable for a planned protest. Protesters are only required to abide by pedestrian laws.

Commissioners say for now, the portrait stays.

Other than being one of the dumbest things I've ever read, you are completely wrong. The only way I'd own anything with a Nazi symbol would be if my grandfather had taken it from a dead Nazi. Most Germans I have met consider the Nazis a stain on German heritage.

I'm 95% sure the reply was a joke...

DUH DOH maybe because I live in the South and see this issue differently from you northern boys who it has no effect on. Try thinking before you gripe.

Don't tell him. Let him find out on his own.

The Governors of Maryland and Virginia have just ordered the removal of the Stars and Bars from any and all license plates.