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Senate GOP Fast-Tracks Bill To Defund Planned Parenthood
The Senate could vote as early as Monday on a procedural motion to advance the bill.


WASHINGTON -- After a group of GOP senators huddled Tuesday afternoon to discuss the recently released undercover "sting" videos of Planned Parenthood, Republicans unveiled legislation to strip the family planning provider of its federal funding.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) fast-tracked the legislation Tuesday night using Rule 14 of Senate procedure, setting up a procedural cloture vote to move the bill to the floor as early as Monday. That all but assures the bill will get a final vote before Senators depart for August recess.

McConnell huddled with Sens. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and a handful of other Republicans Tuesday afternoon to work through details of the bill.

"On the issue of these horrendous videos that we’ve seen with the discussions from Planned Parenthood people, we have a working group ... and it is our plan to have a vote on preceding to a measure that they support sometime before we break for the August recess," McConnell said earlier Tuesday before fast-tracking the bill.

After the meeting, Ernst introduced the legislation, which will defund Planned Parenthood and redirect its federal funds to other women's health organizations.

The push to defund the organization comes after "sting" videos emerged two weeks ago purporting to show Planned Parenthood doctors talking about the illegal sale of fetal body parts after abortions. Planned Parenthood defends its work, saying the videos in fact show doctors discussing reimbursement for the costs incurred for donating fetal tissue for medical research -- a practice that is legal.

Republicans claim the videos are evidence the family planning provider sells the fetal tissue for profit. Some 25 Republican senators signed on to the bill, including Ted Cruz (Texas), John McCain (Ariz.), John Thune (S.D.) and Deb Fischer (Neb.).

"As a mother and grandmother, I find this footage of Planned Parenthood’s role in the harvesting of the organs of unborn babies morally reprehensible and vile,” Ernst said in a statement.

"This legislation would ensure taxpayer dollars for women’s health are actually spent on women’s health -- not a scandal-plagued political lobbying giant,” McConnell added.

In fact, McConnell voted in 1993 to lift a ban on fetal tissue donations after abortions, but the majority leader's office said the new videos have raised questions about whether Planned Parenthood violated the law.

McConnell is betting the bill will win over some Democrats by requiring that the funds still go to women's health services, including prenatal and postpartum care, immunization, family planning services (including contraception), sexually transmitted disease testing and more.

Don Stewart, McConnell's spokesman, said there will be several member conversations with Democrats and that several Democrats have raised concerns about Planned Parenthood.

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) isn't too worried about losing Democrats on the legislation, accusing Republicans of catering to a "right-wing, crazy deal."

"I think we have to understand that it is an attack on women's health," Reid said Tuesday, adding that redirecting the money would not garner support among Democrats.

When asked about Sen. John Cornyn's (R-Texas) confidence that the bill would be designed to get 60 votes, Reid quipped, "Good luck to him."

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But it's just a clump of inconvenient cells, that oddly enough, have formed themselves into various human organs they can sell for scientific research.

Aren't there enough rich liberals that can fund raise for the part of PP that provides that critical birth control and various exams, or are they all just blowing smoke on the 'health resource' crap they spew?


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When will heavily edited hatchet job videos stop being used to defame helpful organizations? Did we not learn anything from the hastily edited ACORN video? The video expose of PP turned out to be another heavily edited hoax.

Please stick with the facts.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
When will heavily edited hatchet job videos stop being used to defame helpful organizations? Did we not learn anything from the hastily edited ACORN video? The video expose of PP turned out to be another heavily edited hoax.

Please stick with the facts.


LOL Watch any national newscast. All they are are heavily edited videos, that are all too often "hatchet jobs".


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I avoid national news like the plague. It helps that I don't have access to cable nine months out of the year, either.

I have a google news feed. I customize it to give me stories from a variety of sources (liberal and conservative outlets) on a wide range of topics.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
When will heavily edited hatchet job videos stop being used to defame helpful organizations? Did we not learn anything from the hastily edited ACORN video? The video expose of PP turned out to be another heavily edited hoax.

Please stick with the facts.


This is the liberal lie. Fox News, the only News organization covering this issue is currently offering the Video's Uncut and unedited. There are something like 3 hours of video.

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Yes but that doesn't mean we should ignorantly follow them just because someone said we should...

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The true danger to Planned Parenthood and the entire industry is the exposure of their hypocrisy. The two positions of "clumps of cells" and negotiating over human organs from abortions are mutually exclusive. One cannot extract human organs from "a pile of goop," or from tumors or undifferentiated "clumps of cells." Human organs come from human beings, and the only way to harvest them from unborn human beings is to kill them first. The videos cut through all of the misdirection, all of the antiseptic generalities used in defense of abortion, to expose its true nature — and that's what has Planned Parenthood panicked over the videos.

http://theweek.com/articles/568788/how-planned-parenthood-videos-expose-abortion-what-truly

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Here's a letter from a PP office to regional media.

To: North Dakota Health and Political Reporters and Producers
From: Jen Aulwes, Planned Parenthood Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota
Date: July 27, 2015
Re: Center for Medical Progress Expected to Violate Patient Privacy

The Center for Medical Progress (CMP) is an extreme activist organization whose sole mission is to prevent women from accessing health care and to destroy Planned Parenthood. The board members of this group believe that abortion is “genocide,” and employ people who went to jail for attempting to bomb a women’s health clinic. They are also connected with the man who murdered abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.

CMP has used footage obtained through deceit and unlawful behavior, including possible violations of state recording laws, federal tax laws and falsified state identification. Then, they concoct wildly false stories through selective editing. We expect this video will be no different in that regard; however, footage yet to come is expected to represent an extreme violation of patient privacy by including footage of post-abortion fetal tissue neither patients nor health care professionals authorized be filmed.

When your network decides whether to consider this story newsworthy, or whether to use any of this footage at all, we urge you to keep this in mind: The extremists who entered Planned Parenthood labs under false pretenses violated research protocol, and, worse, violated the privacy of patients involved. Those patients’ privacy should not be further violated by having this footage shared by the media.

The storage and examination processes that CMP used to get this footage are medically necessary. It is necessary medical professionals ensure an abortion is complete so that patients do not get an infection. When tissue is donated for medical research, these steps are also necessary for the donations to be completed. It is also medically necessary that researchers evaluate the laboratory procedures of a medical provider for safety standards and best practices.

Some of the conversations and protocols that occur in medical settings and among professional peers can sound jarring when taken out of context. While this can be difficult to hear or watch, it should not be used as an excuse to defund Planned Parenthood.

CMP gained access to Planned Parenthood facilities under false pretenses and filmed without securing approval from the Planned Parenthood staff being filmed or the patients whose privacy is compromised by this secret videotaping. The material should not be aired.

Please contact me at 651-755-XXXX or XXXXXXX@ppmns.org if you have any questions or need any more information.

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Here's what I find to be very telling about this letter. They never mention what they are doing. They put all the blame on the people that recorded the videos. They even state that "CMP has used footage obtained through deceit and unlawful behavior, including possible violations of state recording laws, federal tax laws and falsified state identification. Then, they concoct wildly false stories through selective editing." Possible violations? I thought it was illegal to sell human organs or body parts. I know it is for an adult. Do the women who go in for abortions know they are using the 'fetal tissue' for research? Is there a simple check box on the forms that states, 'pp will dispose of the clump of cells'? How many women enter PP are coerced into getting an abortion because their 'fetus' is the right age for acquisition of organs? Do they use a hard sell for those women? Why aren't the potential mothers being paid for their 'donations' to medical research if it's only a clump of cells? How is CMP connected to the murder of Tiller? I found nothing on Scott Roeder (the admitted murderer) that connects him to CMP (Roeder was also diagnosed as schizophrenic, for those of you that defend shootings by the mentally ill).

One last question for those that will attempt to tear apart any of my arguments, how do you feel about veal?


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The truth is now out...

No lives matter to Planned Parenthood and their supporters.

The Culture of Death continues.

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Here's a little story for those that talk of equality.

On Friday, the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Office of Vital Statistics released a report titled “Summary of Vital Statistics 2012 The City of New York, Pregnancy Outcomes.” As expected, the report showed an exceedingly high number of abortions and an exceedingly low number of births.

But the report also showed something more disturbing: a vast majority of the abortions came from the black and Hispanic communities – and in the black community, births were outnumbered by abortion by 6,570. Overall, 42.4% of abortions in the city were of black children; another 31% came from the Hispanic community.

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Why the hell aren't the black lives matter people protesting PP?


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PP isn't systemically jailing, giving law enforcement a free pass and turning a blind eye towards race relations?

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I remember just before his troubles started, Bill Cosby asking his Black audience something to the effect of...

What is the matter with us? Why do we do the things we do?
We should be 33% of the population by now but we are only 13.

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PP isn't systemically jailing, giving law enforcement a free pass and turning a blind eye towards race relations?


No, but they are trying to eliminate a race through eugenic harvesting.


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I remember just before his troubles started, Bill Cosby asking his Black audience something to the effect of...

What is the matter with us? Why do we do the things we do?
We should be 33% of the population by now but we are only 13.


And the black population has been 13% since the Civil War.


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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
When will heavily edited hatchet job videos stop being used to defame helpful organizations? Did we not learn anything from the hastily edited ACORN video? The video expose of PP turned out to be another heavily edited hoax.

Please stick with the facts.


I was under the impression that the full videos are out there as well. Not?

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They are out there. The videos, under the full context, make a bit more sense. A worker did talk with a bit too much brevity, but that's about it.

Now on the whole abortion vs murder issue:

No idea where I stand on this. Does a human life start right at the moment, or is there another milestone in the development of the zygote where it becomes "human"? For the crowd of "right at conception" I ask what about other reproductive cells? Are they only "half a human"? See where this all goes once we closely look at it?

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
They are out there. The videos, under the full context, make a bit more sense. A worker did talk with a bit too much brevity, but that's about it.

Now on the whole abortion vs murder issue:

No idea where I stand on this. Does a human life start right at the moment, or is there another milestone in the development of the zygote where it becomes "human"? For the crowd of "right at conception" I ask what about other reproductive cells? Are they only "half a human"? See where this all goes once we closely look at it?


Is it considered human when they can pull out body parts for medical experiments for human medicine?


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I'm not sure said "parts" are completely analogous to developed human tissue. What the videos focus around are building blocks, but far from the sensationalized "full blown human body part harvest" that soo many claim.

Not a lot of people, including myself, understand the biological processes involved with human development. I think the jury is out on abortion till someone can truly identify when a zygote or fetus develops into an actual human being.

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That's 12 weeks. You have hands, eyes, toes, sex organs, and brain development. This is what they are taking for body parts. Brain development means this being is aware of its surroundings. It moves and feels pain.


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The Videos showing the harvesting are on Youtube.

There are 3 of them.

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That's 12 weeks. You have hands, eyes, toes, sex organs, and brain development. This is what they are taking for body parts.


Wow, some Zygote picture you got there. rolleyes

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I watched the videos. I'm aware of these pictures, as organizations bombarded my campus with similar pictures.

I don't know where I stand on this issue. I see both sides, and I'm not too sure what I think. The burden of proof rests with the pro-life crowd, and scientists can't even agree on this. More research must be done.

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I disagree that the "burden of proof rests with the pro life crowd."

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist


I don't know where I stand on this issue.


A wise man would err on the side of LIFE.

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What constitutes live cells compared to live human beings?

When do shapes and building blocks become a human?

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Look at the picture and shake hands with the answer.

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I'm sure you saw the picture of the 12 week old "fetus". The 12 week old person.

Would that baby live outside the womb? I certainly guessing not - but that doesn't mean it's not a person. Think of it like this: The womb is it's medical care.

Think of a sick adult. Without their "medical care" they would die. Do we just take their care away because they aren't "viable" any longer?

Why, or how, is it, if you cause, say, an accident in which a pregnant woman is killed, or her 12 week old "fetus" is killed you can get charged with 2 counts of killing?

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Pictures meant to drive an emotional response get no reaction from me.

I need facts.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
Pictures meant to drive an emotional response get no reaction from me.

I need facts.


I feel sorry for you then. We are not talking cattle here.

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Well at least the earth is less a billion or so people due to abortions all around the world. I'm sure it slowed down WW3 just a little bit.


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Abortion threads should be banned in this place. Strikes way too close to home for folks and rational conversation about it is damn near impossible.

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Abortion threads should be banned in this place. Strikes way too close to home for folks and rational conversation about it is damn near impossible.


I would like to look away also but it is our duty as Human
Beings to see what it is that we do to our own.

Besides, up there in Canada, you are not being forced to pay for this butchery like I am.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
What constitutes live cells compared to live human beings?

When do shapes and building blocks become a human?


I am not 100% sure. Is it an conception?

Is it when the body begins to form? Is it when the baby is identifiable as a baby?

When is the baby alive?

If we cannot answer this question, then on which side should we stand? Should we say that potentially killing a baby is acceptable, or that perhaps "burdening" a mother with carrying her baby to term, and then deciding to give it up for adoption?

I know in which side I am willing to err, and that is on the side of life.

If I am wrong, then I have inconvenienced some people who should have been more responsible with their sexual relations if they did not want to have children.

If I am right, then we have murdered, callously and in an unfeeling and cruel manner, thousands upon thousands of children in a mass extermination program that the Nazis would be jealous of.


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I understand the point of your question, but science (and technology) have already proven that life doesn't begin only after the baby is outside of the womb. I believe at this point in time 20 weeks is the general scientific consensus that a fetus can feel pain and react to stimulae. Sounds like a good starting point to me doesn't it?

There will be those who try to use the "viability" argument. That's at best a straw man argument due to the fact they won't define what viable is. Its not enough t say "being able to survive outside of the womb". I'd submit that according to that idea, a person isn't viable until the age of 6 or 7 years at the very least. A child younger than that isn't capable of sufficiently being able to feed itself and protect itself from the environment.

Because of technology, 9 months is no longer a benchmark based in reality. Its preferred, but we can keep babies alive sooner. My girlfriend's first baby was born 4 months premature.. she was just over 1 pound. Think about that for a second: a baby that was no bigger than your smart phone, both in size and weight. Of course the baby needed several surgeries and life support assistance for awhile.

The fact of the matter is, in this issue, the pro-abortion crowd IS losing the debate. One, they can't tell you WHY making it out of the womb makes a difference in terms of when life begins. I mean, let's say you have a 4 month premie, and you realize life is going to be hard. Should you be allowed to kill it because it hasn't made it to "9 months"? and oddly enough, science is increasingly supporting the pro-life position.

On top of that, the public is becoming more educated on what methods are used in performing abortions, and they aren't liking it one bit. We put our dogs and cats down more humanely than we do our unborn children.


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At what point does the law consider it life to the point they can charge a person with two cases of manslaughter if they hit a pregnant woman in a car and kill her?


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At what point does the law consider it life to the point they can charge a person with two cases of manslaughter if they hit a pregnant woman in a car and kill her?


I may be wrong on this, but I think it's when a person is pregnant. Be that a verifiable 4 weeks, 4 months, whatever.

But, I might be wrong on that.

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I believe the Planned Parenthood problem is not legal, though there may be legal issues. It is a public relations and economic nightmare. Planned Parenthood can not exist as it does today without government funding. If the populous turns against funding them, they are finished. Personally, I have no need for organizations like Planned Parenthood. I find their exploitation of women to be abhorrent. My personal belief is good riddance to them. I hope the door hits them on the backside on the way out.

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I don't mind my tax dollars going to Planned Parenthood for
women's health needs but its time to get out of the death
business. I don't want to pay a penny for that.

I don't want to be forced to walk thru the camps and look upon
the tortured dead and have to load them into trucks for burial
while the soldiers say "See what you did!" "How could you not know what was right under your noses!"

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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
At what point does the law consider it life to the point they can charge a person with two cases of manslaughter if they hit a pregnant woman in a car and kill her?


I may be wrong on this, but I think it's when a person is pregnant. Be that a verifiable 4 weeks, 4 months, whatever.

But, I might be wrong on that.


Yes, if a suspects actions can be proven to a) be targeted at the unborn baby i.e. punching a pregnant woman in the stomach, or b) if their actions against the mother injure or kill the unborn baby.

What I think is fantastic about laws such as these is that it brings to the front is the oft ignored 'Woman's right to HAVE a baby'. And by charging someone with murder, or homicide the killing of another PERSON, it legally bestows personhood on an unborn baby.


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