Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Originally Posted By: clevesteve
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: clevesteve
So what do we think it was that made McCown have that one great stretch? Was it Trestman? Was it Marshall, Jeffrey, and Bennett? Pure luck? That year was supposedly the one year the Bears had a good line, but they still weren't great. Any ideas? Is it something we can take advantage of or replicate here?


I really think he just had a lucky stretch with awesome receivers. Derek Anderson had an entire season of that.


He had Evans, Jackson, and ASJ in Tampa, which is pretty close to Marshall, Jeffrey, and Bennett... and he had more games there. But he didn't have any of the same luck? I think it's gotta be more than that.


He also had no offensive coordinator, as Jeff Tedford, who was hired to be OC, took ill before the season, and missed the whole year. His place was taken by a straight out of college QB coach, Marcus Arroyo, who had never played, or coached, in the NFL before. Arroyo reportedly had no idea how to put together an NFL gameplan, or how to design/call plays in the NFL. This was not his fault, as that was not the job he was hired to do ..... but it still made like extremely difficult for the offense.

I am not willing to say that this was the only reason that McCown struggled, but I would bet that it played a large part in the struggles of the offense as a whole.

I am curious to see how the preseason plays out. Maybe Manziel beats out McCown. Who knows? Stranger things have definitely happened.


I definitely think that not having a OC and having a horrible offensive line definitely played a part. There is no question in my mind as it would negatively effect any QB. I also think having a established, work horse running back in Matt Forte and solid offensive line definitely helped McCown in Chicago.

I'd be lying if I said my 'hope' hasn't increased slightly in McCown since TC began. Not sure if that is because I generally get more excited about football as we get closer and all the "what ifs" run through my head, or what...but I like what I saw in the scrimmage. Not the 7-on-7 but the 11-on-11 too although I understand the pass rush lets up on the QBs.

I don't expect 5-game Chicago McCown but I don't expect Tampa Bay McCown either. Something in the middle. Not sure if that will be enough...


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