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NFL INSIDER Browns need 10 wins in '07 to be a success, Edwards says Sunday, May 13, 2007 Tony Grossi Plain Dealer Reporter The Browns have to win at least 10 games in 2007 for their season to be judged a success. That's the opinion put forth by receiver Braylon Edwards on a national radio show last week. The Browns have gone 6-10 and 4-12 in Edwards' two seasons since being drafted No. 3 overall by the club in 2005. His years coincided with the first two seasons for coach Romeo Crennel. "I don't believe an 8-8 year is successful," Edwards said on "Movin' the Chains" on Sirius NFL Radio. "I'm not trying to step out on a limb or anything like that, but with that said, we have what we've been looking for. "We have an offensive system now that can work for us. We have players on offense that can work for us. Our defense played well most of the year, but the offense was giving them no help. So now we're in a situation where 8-8, to me, is not a success this year. "I believe that 10-6 for us this year is a success. Making the playoffs this year is a possibility, as well as winning our conference. So this should be a great year for the Browns as well as [Crennel]." The Browns' receiver also dropped these nuggets: On quarterback Charlie Frye's performance in 2006: "I saw some growth, but I still saw a kid that was coming from an Akron or a [Mid-American Conference] school and didn't necessarily have the knowledge or preparation of a Brady Quinn-type of collegiate QB. "So I saw a guy that's still learning, still has a long ways to go. But also I saw a guy that was put in a bad situation. I saw a guy who didn't have the best protection in football." On the Browns' offensive scheme under new coordinator Rob Chudzinski: "We have an offense that gets the ball out quick. We have a lot of quicks, as well as we're not a run-first team with no rush. That's one of the things that hurt last year . . . we were a run-first team and we had no running game." Edwards also referred to Chudzinski's system as a "West Coast offense." On Crennel's future: "I think Charlie Frye and Romeo Crennel are in similar situations. The reason I say that is they both got thrown in situations where it wasn't fair to assess them at that point, especially Romeo Crennel. You give him a team that is starving at different positions, it's starving for an identity or even a framework. "Now that we have the frame, now that we have what we believe to be our identity, now you can begin to assess this man. This is the year that you can look and assess his game." Putting his money up: Edwards is creating a scholarship program with the Cleveland Municipal School District that will be jump-started with a sizable gift from him. Details are expected this week. No Moss: The Browns cut Miami running back Tyrone Moss after three days of rookie minicamp because it was obvious he had not recovered sufficiently from knee surgery in November 2005. In fact, Moss had his left knee examined after being cut and had an arthroscopic procedure done to clean it out. Moss also was a little overweight. Open up: Three Browns practices during their organized team activities will be opened to the media as a result of Commissioner Roger Goodell's new media policy. Also, media access to coordinators must be granted at least every other week during the regular season. All assistant coaches must be made available "on a reasonable basis," states the policy. Further, players must be made available following every game. Theoretically, players who are involved in a controversy or a bad game can't duck out anymore. The league also revamped its injury reporting procedure during the practice week. Players on the injury report will be grouped into four classifications: out, did not participate, limited participation and full participation. On Fridays, the injury report will contain the classifications used previously: out, doubtful, questionable and probable. Probable, however, now is defined to mean "virtual certainty player will be available for normal duty." North nuggets: Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review that he was so excited with the team's draft that he drew up 15 new defensive plays for top picks Lawrence Timmons and LaMarr Woodley in the team's 3-4 scheme. "It always looks good on paper. We'll see how it looks on the field," LeBeau said to the newspaper. . . . The Bengals, who took some heavy losses in free agency, are trying to rebound by signing former Ravens linebacker Ed Hartwell. . . . Former Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith is bucking long odds and they have nothing to do with his height. The only Heisman Trophy-winning quarterbacks to have success as starters in the NFL in the past 30 years were Doug Flutie, Vinny Testaverde, Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart. The Baltimore media are not even trumpeting Smith as a contender to displace No. 2 quarterback Kyle Boller. At his first meeting with the media, Smith was asked whether he expected to make the final cut. Ouch. Out and about: Former Browns personnel executive Mike Lombardi was fired by the Raiders. The team informed media through e-mail with the terse announcement: "Michael Lombardi has been relieved of his duties by the Oakland Raiders. The Raiders wish Michael and his family well." . . . Staph infections are not the exclusive problem of the Browns. In Tennessee, defensive tackle Rien Long ruptured an Achilles tendon on the first day of training camp last season. He had a second surgery and then a staph infection set in. Long did not participate in the team's minicamp last week. Long told the Nashville Tennessean that he was fortunate his foot was not amputated. They're No. 1: According to Gil Brandt of nfl.com, Ohio State's two first-round picks (Ted Ginn Jr. and Anthony Gonzalez) in this year's draft moved the Buckeyes past Southern California for the all-time lead with 66. USC has 65. Miami and Notre Dame each have 61. To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: Tgrossi@plaind.com, 216-999-4670
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Boy I'm telling you,, Edwards must of hired a publicity expert,, he's doing a ton of talk shows and charity things to try and rehab his image.... Or at least it feels that way 
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He is still running his mouth. He just needs to shut the hell up and play football.
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He is still running his mouth. He just needs to shut the hell up and play football.
So when he is asked a question he should just look at people with a blank stare??
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No, he should answer the questions he is asked. But it appears he is making the rounds of all the sports shows he can. Kinda like a book tour for an author. In other words he's pumping himself.
The only problem with that is that it seems he has failed to realize that last year he was part of the problem. Not part of the solution. If he changes his ways this year and performs the way he can then he can say anything he likes. Ala any other big star. Until his performance matches his own reviews of himself he should just stfu. Att least that's my opinion.
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No he needs to keep himself out of the spot light ( radio / tv shows ) .. Do his talking in mini camps ( with other players ) and on the field when the season starts .. He hasn't done a thing to establish himself as a frontman for the Browns !
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I understand that.
He should be out trying to repair his image. Image is what sells, even if his play doesn't.
I don't have a problem with what he is doing at this point. It will be important for him to go out and play well or all of his talk is nothing more than just talk...and that won't sell after this point.
So this boils down to a guy just blabbing to blab, or a guy who is dedicated to doing things right.
We will see, but I don't blame a man for trying to put some things in order. The order in which he does it doesn't really matter..
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He is still running his mouth. He just needs to shut the hell up and play football.
So when he is asked a question he should just look at people with a blank stare??
No, but he can give a simple answer and walk away. He does not need to go into Chalie went to a small school blah blah blah.
He needs to worry abou his performance, and how he was not mentally ready to play last year. I remember plenty of passes from the small school guy landing right in the hands of the big school receiver yet still falling to he field.
When BE is a pro-bowl caliber receiver he can start critiquing others.
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I understand that.
He should be out trying to repair his image. Image is what sells, even if his play doesn't.
I don't have a problem with what he is doing at this point. It will be important for him to go out and play well or all of his talk is nothing more than just talk...and that won't sell after this point.
So this boils down to a guy just blabbing to blab, or a guy who is dedicated to doing things right.
We will see, but I don't blame a man for trying to put some things in order. The order in which he does it doesn't really matter..
You're very right. Image sells.
I don't see what's so bad about what he said either. He sounds genuinely excited about this season, our coordinators and Brady Quinn.
He could say "I love my mother." and some people on this board would say "SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND JUST PLAY THE GAME." It's not 1960 anymore, image sells.
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He is still running his mouth. He just needs to shut the hell up and play football.
So when he is asked a question he should just look at people with a blank stare??
He's still blaming everyone else for the Browns' troubles. It's Crennel's fault, it's the offense's fault, it's Frye's fault, it's the running game...sounds like the same old Braylon to me.
As for answering people with a blank state, it was Braylon's decision to appear on these shows. It's not like he woke up one morning and Sirius Radio tracked him down between his bedroom and the kitchen...
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He is still running his mouth. He just needs to shut the hell up and play football.
So when he is asked a question he should just look at people with a blank stare??
He's still blaming everyone else for the Browns' troubles. It's Crennel's fault, it's the offense's fault, it's Frye's fault, it's the running game...sounds like the same old Braylon to me.
As for answering people with a blank state, it was Braylon's decision to appear on these shows. It's not like he work up one morning and Sirius Radio tracked him down between his bedroom and the kitchen...
He's not blaming others for the Browns' troubles. He didn't once throw Romeo under the bus there.
He says he wants 10 wins to think it's a successful season...what do you want him to say? "We're gonna go out and compete?" That's the mentality of a LOSER.
Even if he is throwing people under the bus, don't we say the same things?
Our O-line was terrible, Droughns was sub-par which didn't help matters and #9 was absolute GARBAGE as a QB.
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He could say "I love my mother." and some people on this board would say "SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND JUST PLAY THE GAME." No, but we would say that after he added.."And Mom needs to step up her game or she needs to go"...... 
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I normally wouldn't have a problem with a guy saying what he honestly feels, but I think he shouldn't go into as much detail as he does, particularly about Frye.
They are teammates and equals. He is not in a position to critique Charlie Frye to the media and the public. With questions like that, you tow the company line, keep your actual feelings to yourself, and move on.
Otherwise, I don't care about him making the rounds and talking to the media. He's doing some good things too like the scholarship.
He just needs to remember he's not a coach here. He's a player. You just don't say the things he said about Frye being in the position he is.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I definately think that people try to throw some of what Braylon says out of proportion. He has said some stupid things in the past but I think because of that people are now just hearing what they want to hear instead of what he is saying...
He didnt throw anyone under the bus, he was being interviewed and he gave (what I think) are appropriate responses. He explained why Charlie struggled and said he is learning and didnt have the people around him so it made it more difficult.
Didnt say he is a terrible QB. Didnt say it was all Charlies fault. Same thing with Romeo.
If you struggle for mediocrity, thats all you'll get.. he is setting the bar a little higher. Now hopefully he backs up his talk with actions on and off the field.
We'll see!
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What bothers me about Braylon (aside from his dropsies) is he won't admit to his own shortcomings, but doesn't mind pointing out other people's.
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It would have been nice if he would have mentioned his own shortcomings and what he is doing to fix his own problems...along with most else of what he said.
Also, I could have done without the small school reference to Charlie as well. BE didn't look nearly as good in his time here from a big school as did a guy like Colston from freakin' Hofstra.
The next time he speaks, I'd like to hear where he needs to improve and what he is doing to get there. Otherwise, he has said enough for awhile.
Time to let the actions do the talking.
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He's still blaming everyone else for the Browns' troubles. It's Crennel's fault, it's the offense's fault, it's Frye's fault, it's the running game...sounds like the same old Braylon to me.
What the heck are you talking about,,, all he is saying is the same things that most of the fans on this board have been saying for the last 6 months,,,,,
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He's still blaming everyone else for the Browns' troubles. It's Crennel's fault, it's the offense's fault, it's Frye's fault, it's the running game...sounds like the same old Braylon to me.
What the heck are you talking about,,, all he is saying is the same things that most of the fans on this board have been saying for the last 6 months,,,,,
Read your signature, thats one most people are doing in this thread 
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He says he wants 10 wins to think it's a successful season...what do you want him to say? "We're gonna go out and compete?" That's the mentality of a LOSER.
By this line of thinking, saying anything short of "We plan to win the Superbowl for every season from here to eternity" would indicate the mentality of a loser, correct? Thus, by that standard, Braylon's comments were clearly of the loser variety.
When you grow up a bit and gain some perspective, I think you'll realize that a loser is simply someone who, by definition, has lost. Your line of thinking has more to do with Gatorade commercials and Underarmor marketing slogans than anything based in reality.
Braylon clearly placed blame with his statements. Saying it wasn't fair to judge Crennel by what happened last year because of 1) the OL, 2) the QB, 3) the RB indicates quite clearly he feels the problems lay at the feet of everyone else on offense except for himself.
The problem here isn't that he's pointing out the obvious -- it's that he sits back, excludes himself from having any responsibility for the problem whatsoever, and feels the need to become a spokesperson for the Browns when he has little business doing so.
That is not maturity nor does it have anything to do with his media agents. If he was mature and finally did "get it", he'd be at home studying the playbook and working on his hands -- not trying to bolster his public image as if he's a 10 year vet and team leader.
For Braylon, it's time to do what Winslow did. Shut up and show it on the field.
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oh my if thats true ill be so happy
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And as I said earlier, he can only take this route once....which I am ok with
I sort of equate it to if you or I did something wrong to someone.
You don't spend 2-3 years working to correct the problem before you tell someone you are sorry. You usually say you are sorry and then work to keep from it happening again.
This isn't the type of deal where he really needs to say he is sorry, but he does need to wipe the slate clean. So, I am good with that, but now he needs to take the next step and be the best teammate and player he can be....time will tell if that happens or not.
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He's still blaming everyone else for the Browns' troubles. It's Crennel's fault, it's the offense's fault, it's Frye's fault, it's the running game...sounds like the same old Braylon to me.
What the heck are you talking about,,, all he is saying is the same things that most of the fans on this board have been saying for the last 6 months,,,,,
Look at me. I'm Braylon Edwards, star NFL receiver. Everyone in the world is the problem except me. If only everyone on the team was better, I'd finally start running the right routes, shut up in the huddles and catch the ball when it's thrown to me.
Why is this guy even on these shows? How many times have you seen Winslow on a national show pointing out blame and accepting no responsibility for any team problems? How many times has Kamerion Wimbley been on TV saying the current QB doesn't have the skills to do the job? How many times has Sean Jones been on the NFL Network blaming the offense for the record last year? Andra Davis? Joe Jurevicius? Pool? Frye?
I don't care what the problems are of how many of them you think you were intelligent enough to point out. You don't build team comraderie by booking yourself on every show you can and pointing fingers at your teammates -- no matter how correctly they may be pointed.
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He's still blaming everyone else for the Browns' troubles. It's Crennel's fault, it's the offense's fault, it's Frye's fault, it's the running game...sounds like the same old Braylon to me.
What the heck are you talking about,,, all he is saying is the same things that most of the fans on this board have been saying for the last 6 months,,,,,
Look at me. I'm Braylon Edwards, star NFL receiver. Everyone in the world is the problem except me. If only everyone on the team was better, I'd finally start running the right routes, shut up in the huddles and catch the ball when it's thrown to me.
Why is this guy even on these shows? How many times have you seen Winslow on a national show pointing out blame and accepting no responsibility for any team problems? How many times has Kamerion Wimbley been on TV saying the current QB doesn't have the skills to do the job? How many times has Sean Jones been on the NFL Network blaming the offense for the record last year? Andra Davis? Joe Jurevicius? Pool? Frye?
I don't care what the problems are of how many of them you think you were intelligent enough to point out. You don't build team comraderie by booking yourself on every show you can and pointing fingers at your teammates -- no matter how correctly they may be pointed.
So, you don't want the Browns to get publicity?
The more Browns go on media shows, the better. It's all about marketing. Need it to get more revenue nationally.
Of course, winning is the best solution.
Also can't forget that receiver is the last link in the chain. One could argue he didn't have a breakout year because of all the offensive issues. The line sucked, the runningback didn't help the already crappy line, the QB was not only absolute garbage as a QB but he had no help from his line or running game either. Our coordinator was terrible.
He shouldn't be removed from the situation, but when you're the last link in the chain and are forced to rely on so many terrible players around you, you can kind of see his perspective.
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He says he wants 10 wins to think it's a successful season...what do you want him to say? "We're gonna go out and compete?" That's the mentality of a LOSER.
I guess that is the kind of stuff people are use to here....LOSERS 
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Regardless of what he's saying, I'd rather that someone else on the team do the talking and make predictions for the Cleveland Browns.
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someone at this point who doesn't have faults of their own they need to cover up by blaming teammates.
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Lots of good,,very good receivers don't get it right away,,, few come back from that injury as quickly as Edwards did, yet there are still those that think he's leon and then rag on him no matter what he says,,,
I would rather Edwards learns that its much smarter to keep his mouth shut until he earns the respect on the field by catching the dang ball and running correct routes,, but hey, if the guy wants to try and correct the over all impression he's left us with,,,then go for it,,,,
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What the heck are you talking about,,, all he is saying is the same things that most of the fans on this board have been saying for the last 6 months,,,,,
But he can't do that Damnshot! he doesn't have the respect of the fans/players yet to speak for the team  these people drive me nuts...it's like someone said in this thread if he says "i love my mother" even then people would tell him to stfu n play ball
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no doubt....to me a player shouldn't be speaking for the team unless he is above reproach...imo he's far from a rock-solid vet...
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I've actually been ok with braylon up to now. This shows me that he hasn't learned anything. last year, he was a problem, but he was young and mad about losing. That's ok.
But now? Seriously, stfu. Was it Charlie's fault he couldn't complete more passes to Braylon when Braylon was on the bench for missing a team meeting? I haven't seen small school charlie do ONE thing to even indicate he blamed another player, even when he was getting creamed before he even got the snap.
This is the first time I've thought this, but after all this crap about how i'm maturing and being accountable and going to be a team player, then going and saying this crap, I say trade him now while he's still worth something.
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Wow... this is actually a decent article with some useful information but this immediately turns into a Braylon's Big Mouth thread. So sad. Quote:
"I don't believe an 8-8 year is successful," Edwards said on "Movin' the Chains" on Sirius NFL Radio. "I'm not trying to step out on a limb or anything like that, but with that said, we have what we've been looking for.
"We have an offensive system now that can work for us. We have players on offense that can work for us. Our defense played well most of the year, but the offense was giving them no help. So now we're in a situation where 8-8, to me, is not a success this year.
"I believe that 10-6 for us this year is a success. Making the playoffs this year is a possibility, as well as winning our conference. So this should be a great year for the Browns as well as [Crennel]."
I assume he's including himself when he holds the offense responsible for the D being on the field too much. I also like that he's somewhat reasonable in his expectations for the season. 8-8 is probably about right but 10-6 would be great. I'm tired of the party line, "Anything short of a Superbowl is a failed season." It's untrue. Seasons are also measured in terms of team progress. This season will tell a lot, about the team, coaching and especially whether there's an emerging offense or not. I still believe it ulitmately comes down to execution, but lack of talent can no longer be scapegoat. Let's hope everyone stays healthy.
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On quarterback Charlie Frye's performance in 2006:
"I saw some growth, but I still saw a kid that was coming from an Akron or a [Mid-American Conference] school and didn't necessarily have the knowledge or preparation of a Brady Quinn-type of collegiate QB.
"So I saw a guy that's still learning, still has a long ways to go. But also I saw a guy that was put in a bad situation. I saw a guy who didn't have the best protection in football."
Sound right. Pretty much what I saw too. We'll know how much progress he's really made by seeing who starts on day one. It's possible that Charlie learned a lot this past season and he could actually be a better player this year. Add to that Chud's new, quicker offense, a new line, and a running game and you now have the elements Savage talked about earlier when he discussed bringing in the tools to build around a QB not through him. In that respect, whether Charlie or Brady start, the overall philosophy hasn't changed.
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On the Browns' offensive scheme under new coordinator Rob Chudzinski:
"We have an offense that gets the ball out quick. We have a lot of quicks, as well as we're not a run-first team with no rush. That's one of the things that hurt last year . . . we were a run-first team and we had no running game."
Edwards also referred to Chudzinski's system as a "West Coast offense."
Thought this was very telling in terms of what we can expect to see on the field. We have some speed and we have some size and we have some athletic talent on the O. BE, K2, Wilson, Joe J., Jamal, Vickers, Harrison, Cribbs and even Carter all have something special going on, abilities that allow them under the right circumstances to be game changers or game breakers. Charlie & Brady also bring something to the party. Having an decent O-line as well a system that plays to the strengths of the talent is key to our success. It's all about mismatches and I'm curious to see how they'll be created. This should prove very interesting and we could have one of the most exciting seasons offensively that we've seen in a while, especially if they can get everyone into play and contributing consistently.
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On Crennel's future:
"I think Charlie Frye and Romeo Crennel are in similar situations. The reason I say that is they both got thrown in situations where it wasn't fair to assess them at that point, especially Romeo Crennel. You give him a team that is starving at different positions, it's starving for an identity or even a framework.
"Now that we have the frame, now that we have what we believe to be our identity, now you can begin to assess this man. This is the year that you can look and assess his game."
I would agree with this. I think it's unfair to judge either one of them prior to this year, but this year should tell a lot about our team. I like the fact that there seems to be an identity forming, at least in the minds of the players. I just hope we can stop the run. I sure would love that identity.
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Putting his money up:
Edwards is creating a scholarship program with the Cleveland Municipal School District that will be jump-started with a sizable gift from him. Details are expected this week.
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No Moss:
The Browns cut Miami running back Tyrone Moss after three days of rookie minicamp because it was obvious he had not recovered sufficiently from knee surgery in November 2005. In fact, Moss had his left knee examined after being cut and had an arthroscopic procedure done to clean it out. Moss also was a little overweight.
I still think my man Wright will be very servicable as the #2 behind Jamal and the new line. But that's just me. I understand the desire to get someone else, maybe someone proven or at least percieved as being better, but I want Wright to get the chance to show his stuff behind a decent line. I'm tired of the revolving door at RB and want to start seeing some team grown successes.
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Open up:
Three Browns practices during their organized team activities will be opened to the media as a result of Commissioner Roger Goodell's new media policy.
Also, media access to coordinators must be granted at least every other week during the regular season. All assistant coaches must be made available "on a reasonable basis," states the policy.
Further, players must be made available following every game. Theoretically, players who are involved in a controversy or a bad game can't duck out anymore.
Wow... Belichick must be hating that... lol... I guess Goodell is making his mark: Clean Up & Promote. Rinse and repeat.
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Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review that he was so excited with the team's draft that he drew up 15 new defensive plays for top picks Lawrence Timmons and LaMarr Woodley in the team's 3-4 scheme. "It always looks good on paper. We'll see how it looks on the field,"
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According to Gil Brandt of nfl.com, Ohio State's two first-round picks (Ted Ginn Jr. and Anthony Gonzalez) in this year's draft moved the Buckeyes past Southern California for the all-time lead with 66. USC has 65. Miami and Notre Dame each have 61.
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No, he should answer the questions he is asked. But it appears he is making the rounds of all the sports shows he can. Kinda like a book tour for an author. In other words he's pumping himself.
The only problem with that is that it seems he has failed to realize that last year he was part of the problem. Not part of the solution. If he changes his ways this year and performs the way he can then he can say anything he likes. Ala any other big star. Until his performance matches his own reviews of himself he should just stfu. Att least that's my opinion.
To get player interviews, you usually have to go through the BROWNS themselves. Therefore the shows and such are set up through the Browns, that's typically how it works.
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he doesn't have the respect of the fans/players yet to speak for the team
I'm glad you're finally getting it.
He has my respect - he worked his butt off to come back 7 games early from an ACL tear, played with a dislocated finger at years end and doesn't want to lose. Once again, Browns fans wanting players who sya "Well, if we go 6-10 it's a successful year" Have anyone of you ever done anything competetive in your lives? If so, how often did you go in and say "it'll be a success if we lose by 3"
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he doesn't have the respect of the fans/players yet to speak for the team
I'm glad you're finally getting it.
He has my respect - he worked his butt off to come back 7 games early from an ACL tear, played with a dislocated finger at years end and doesn't want to lose. Once again, Browns fans wanting players who sya "Well, if we go 6-10 it's a successful year" Have anyone of you ever done anything competetive in your lives? If so, how often did you go in and say "it'll be a success if we lose by 3"
Exactly.
The only thing I didn't like is what he said about the type of college Quinn came to compared to Frye because it was harsh, but it was true.
Braylon is just answering questions I guarantee you he doesn't just randomly say things...
Also, if any of you have played sports and never chewed someone out in the dugout or yelled at them for doing something stupid or bringing down the team then you are insane... However, if Braylon wants to do that, and he drops passes, Crennel should be all over him because it works both ways, but I want him to succeed, I don't want this to be another top 5 bust for us.
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To get player interviews, you usually have to go through the BROWNS themselves. Therefore the shows and such are set up through the Browns, that's typically how it works.
Couple of comments in response to that......I'd be willing to bet that Sirius just called Braylon or that his agent called Sirius to make BE available. While the Browns may have known about the interview(s), knowing Braylon's past it would not surprise me in the least if they did not know about the interview(s) before he appeared. And you know darn well that the Browns didn't know what he was gonna say.
Look, he can do all the interviews he wants. He can say anything he wants. It's a free country. It's also my right to consider what he says as white noise until I hear him throw himself under the bus while he's doing that to the rest of the team. Simple, really.
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Soup what are you talking about....since loud mouth BE said we have to win 10 games he is automaticly wrong we just need to win one more game than last year to have a "good" year....thats it..do you not understand BE is just a loud mouth who doesn't represent any fans or the browns? he didn't catch every single pass thrown to him on a leg that wasn't suppose to heal till mid october last year all he did was defy odds and come back game 1 to help his team...that doesn't mean jackkkkkk  *Note the sarcasm oozing through your computer screen from my post...sorry for the mess...
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Can we freaking trade this loud mouthed, stone-handed, egotistical moron yet? Good grief.
Maybe we could trade him for some "small school" WR's who will actually stfu and go out and play and actually catch the football.
If he doesn't put up 1500 yards and 10 TD's with less than 10 drops this year...boy he better look out. He DESERVES to get thrown under the bus if he can't start backing up his crap on the field. What a joke.
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