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i agree. that's pretty evident right here on this board.


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but everybody on here says judge the person not on skin tone, but character.

but i guess that shouldn't apply across the board, huh.


Yes it should but unfortunately with a fear/phobia that doesn't happen. Using my spider example: If you were bitten by a spider and now had a fear/phobia of spiders it's very likely your gonna be afraid of all spiders not just the type that bit you.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
so what the pit, DC, and 40 are saying is that if somebody is scared of me and hate me because i'm black, it's not racist, it's just fear.


I'm saying someone with a phobia has an issue that needs medical attention. If someone had a traumatic experience such as an assault or rape that involved someone of color, they need counseling. You can be afraid of something that you don't hate.

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so if i start swinging on white people, or cussing them out randomly who stand behind me in wal-mart, it's not that i'm racist, it's just because i'm scared of white people.


Now you've just totally changed the issue. There is a huge difference between being afraid of letting someone into your home than showing public displays of aggression.

I feel sorry for everyone who has undergone traumatic experiences that effect their life. Whether it's a soldier coming home with PTSD from the trauma of war or someone having any other traumatic experience that has a negative impact on their life. I'm sure there are many of our black citizens that have a negative with the police or members of other races that negatively impact their life the same.

The difference between you and I seem to be I'm not basing my compassion upon race and circumstances.


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I don't care if a black guy delivers my stuff or a gay guy or a woman or a Muslim... as long as they aren't Canadian.


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so if i start swinging on white people,


Nah, that's assault.

If you, in the scenario you mentioned, were afraid of white people because a white person (or a group of them) did some sort of harm to you in the past, that would be fear, not racism. IMO. I know that may seem like a super fine line, but I think it exists.

However, valid points are being made.

The lady in the story appears to be racist. We don't know that, but the assumption could be made.

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I don't care if a black guy delivers my stuff or a gay guy or a woman or a Muslim... as long as they aren't Canadian.


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A place called "Lynchburg" has a lot of racists? You don't say...


lol... actually named after John Lynch... founder... who started a ferry service ( insert joke here)across the James River


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG


I'm saying someone with a phobia has an issue that needs medical attention. If someone had a traumatic experience such as an assault or rape that involved someone of color, they need counseling. You can be afraid of something that you don't hate.


I am terrified of Race Threads but I do not hate them.

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I wonder if I could request only large breasted women to make deliveries to my house.


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I wonder if I could request only large breasted women to make deliveries to my house.


To help you overcome your phobia of large breasts?


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I wonder if I could request only large breasted women to make deliveries to my house.


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so what the pit, DC, and 40 are saying is that if somebody is scared of me and hate me because i'm black, it's not racist, it's just fear.


I'm saying someone with a phobia has an issue that needs medical attention. If someone had a traumatic experience such as an assault or rape that involved someone of color, they need counseling. You can be afraid of something that you don't hate.


Pitt, to us, who experience racism on the daily, we have always seen it as a psychological problem. That's why Swish nor I are forgiving in this.

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Jeez, do they make cars that she can fit in?


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Jeez, do they make cars that she can fit in?


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Pitt, to us, who experience racism on the daily, we have always seen it as a psychological problem. That's why Swish nor I are forgiving in this.


My point isn't about the race of a person. If a black woman had been beaten by a white cop and was now afraid to go anywhere white people are the majority to shop, I would feel the same way. If she were afraid to have a white delivery driver bring an appliance to her home, I would feel the same.

When any major violent act against another human being brings trauma into their life, I have compassion for that person. It could be black on black violence or white on white violence that would cause someone to be in that situation involving people of their own race.

I just believe trauma induced by violence is something we should all be willing to have compassion for no matter the circumstance. I don't really take issue with people who feel differently, but I won't let race in either direction make me feel less compassion with someone who has to deal with the consequences of that violent action.

I guess the only thing that really disturbed me was the impression that some may have seen that as me being insensitive to the racial problems I fully understand exist in this country. That's in no way true.


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I wonder if I could request only large breasted women to make deliveries to my house.




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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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I wonder if I could request only large breasted women to make deliveries to my house.


To help you overcome your phobia of large breasts?


Yep. The only cure is repeated exposure to my "fear". thumbsup


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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Pitt, to us, who experience racism on the daily, we have always seen it as a psychological problem. That's why Swish nor I are forgiving in this.


My point isn't about the race of a person. If a black woman had been beaten by a white cop and was now afraid to go anywhere white people are the majority to shop, I would feel the same way. If she were afraid to have a white delivery driver bring an appliance to her home, I would feel the same.

When any major violent act against another human being brings trauma into their life, I have compassion for that person. It could be black on black violence or white on white violence that would cause someone to be in that situation involving people of their own race.

I just believe trauma induced by violence is something we should all be willing to have compassion for no matter the circumstance. I don't really take issue with people who feel differently, but I won't let race in either direction make me feel less compassion with someone who has to deal with the consequences of that violent action.

I guess the only thing that really disturbed me was the impression that some may have seen that as me being insensitive to the racial problems I fully understand exist in this country. That's in no way true.


Don't worry. We know where you stand and we know how down you are. I just want to say, that a lot of my friends, whose racism I overlook, have said very racist things to me about black people, and sound frightened or mention how fearful they are to me. I really believe that every racist has a psychological condition based on fear. I found racists to be very xenophobic in general and we can only base this on their fear. That's why I won't be cutting this woman any slack.

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Originally Posted By: jfanent
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I wonder if I could request only large breasted women to make deliveries to my house.


To help you overcome your phobia of large breasts?


Yep. The only cure is repeated exposure to my "fear". thumbsup
So... you're into "immersion therapy?"


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I did not read this post or any of the posts in this thread. I just saw it had 99 replies.

99 replies and yet not one post was made about the Memphis cop who was shot dead by a black man.

Delivery Driver being replaced vs shooting a cop. What's more important? Obviously, life isn't all that important if you are white and a cop.

I have said it before and I am going to keep saying it............there are quite a few of you who are just as racist as the racists you hate.

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I did not read this post or any of the posts in this thread. I just saw it had 99 replies.

99 replies and yet not one post was made about the Memphis cop who was shot dead by a black man.

Delivery Driver being replaced vs shooting a cop. What's more important? Obviously, life isn't all that important if you are white and a cop.

I have said it before and I am going to keep saying it............there are quite a few of you who are just as racist as the racists you hate.



Sorry that we don't follow the news in states we don't live in. I'm really sorry, seriously. I should start focusing on news that live in my area. Also, it's not relevant. You're an English guy, you know how annoying non-sequiturs are in conversations. Also, it doesn't add to the conversation at all. What are you expecting? I think everyone knows that's tragic. It's saddening to hear that someone who tries to protect and serve a community, that he or she might not live in, gets killed. It's not right. And I'm glad that they have the case resolved. I hope the policeman's family can get justice. I don't think anyone would say anything less than that? What did you want from this again?

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I only wanted to point out like how you--and several others--are just as prejudiced as the prejudiced people you hate.

Hate doesn't overcome hate.

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Why would that be posted in this topic as it's completely unrelated? If you feel so strongly about it, why didn't you create a new topic for it?


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I only wanted to point out like how you--and several others--are just as prejudiced as the prejudiced people you hate.

Hate doesn't overcome hate.


How am I prejudiced? Vers, you're always crying about how you're not looking for fights and do things like this. How am I prejudiced? Give me an example. Please. I cannot wait till you reply to this. Will you get on your cross as soon as you read this? I want a reply ASAP. I cannot wait to see your victim complex go into full effect after this post. It's going to be such a funny read. But please hit on how I'm prejudiced during your reply.

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uhh, nothing to do with this particular topic.

if you wanna make a thread about it, feel free. nobody is stopping you.


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I am surprised you couldn't figure it out. Aren't you the one w/the amazing reading comprehension?

I didn't post the black-on-white crime story because it would only add fuel the fire of an already escalated situation. There are numerous stories out there that address racial attacks and misdeeds.

I chose to ignore that story---and many others---because I don't want to classify all blacks as murderous white cop killers. I would rather judge each individual, regardless of race or sex, on their own INDIVIDUAL acts, rather than trying to make wide-ranging, broad statements about any one single group of people.

I do NOT feel the need to post black on white crimes/misdeeds or black on black crimes/misdeeeds simply because my black friends on here ONLY post white on black crimes or misdeeds.

Fighting hate w/hate only perpetuates the problem and makes one as much of a racist, bigot, etc as those you hate.

I would rather we work to find solutions to our problems than making hundreds of posts on how awful the "other side" is.

Can you comprehend that, Eve?

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i posted the story simply because it's a national headline.

if i posted racial articles from every local source, white on black or vise versa, this forum would be flooded.

so i picked a national headline.


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Make no mistake......I am looking for a fight on this one. I have read your crap for years and you are one of the most prejudiced people on the board.

Victim? What are you talking about? I am no one's victim.

I am simply calling you, Swish, and a few others out as being extremely prejudiced. You are as bad as 40, or whatever his name is.

None of you are really getting my point, though.

I am not really trying to bad-mouth you. I am trying to get your young, disturbed, self-pitying selves to understand that hate doesn't solve anything. Try working to solve the problem rather than pointing out............."he did it first."

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If you didn't get what I meant.........you comprehend very little.

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The shooting of the cop in Memphis was a national headline. So was the killing of the baby by the black mother. So was the rioting of the idiots in Ferguson who chose to loot establishments while the police were busy w/the protesters, but you didn't post any of that.

Look Swish......I like you and am trying to help you. I am not all warm and fuzzy. I think you know--unlike some others--that I am not prejudiced at all. I simply don't want you to fall into the same trap that snares many people who end up prejudiced.

Do you think babies are born prejudiced? Black, white, brown, yellow toddlers will all play together. Prejudice is a learned trait. Emphasizing only the negatives of the another race will only fuel the fire.

How the hell can you NOT see what I mean?????? Damn man! You are smarter than that. I don't give a rat's butt about some of these other people because they are beyond hope. You aren't. Wise the hell up!!!

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First off, i didn't even hear about the Memphis shooting of the cop. I can't post stuff i don't know about.

And Ferguson,that placed got covered enough on this board. we had an initial thread and a part 2 about ferguson. think we covered that.

Of course nobody is born prejudice. That's the problem here, though. You and others ask these redundant ass questions like for some reason, nobody knows these things. it's borderline insulting.

and you damn right it's a learned trait. Because I should've became prejudice when my white friend got off with no charges while i got hit with public disturbance.

i should've became prejudice when i get pulled over a dozen times in one with driving in a BMW, searched for drugs every single time. i mean you guys on this board hold military to such high regard for some reason, yet i got a deployment patch and a CAB, but i'm still getting harassed by cops, IN uniform?

do you have any idea how that feels?

I should've became prejudice when some white soldiers were complaining to command because they didn't want to deploy with an "arab nigger". yea, you don't have a FREAKING CLUE how that feels.

I get hit from both sides dude. i get turkish/middle eastern crap and black crap all. the. time.

but yet, here i am, still doing my thing, still going to school, still taking care of my family, still interacting with people in the world like it ain't no thing.

Thats why i said to 40 and pit there's NO excuse as to why this chick got an issue with blacks. My track record speak for itself, yet i refuse to interact with people like this. i treat people truly the same.

yet it's not happening like that on the other end. Cause i'm not the one pulling myself over, calling myself an Arab Nigger, giving myself harsher penalties even though there's only one difference between me and my friend. THAT'S the problem.

So you wanna try and spin this on me like i'm the problem? go ahead, but i wouldn't be pissed off if the people that look like YOU knew how to behave themselves in the first place.

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So you wanna try and spin this on me like i'm the problem? go ahead, but i wouldn't be pissed off if the people that look like YOU knew how to behave themselves in the first place.


Alight. Good luck to you.

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No, I ain't posting no hate crime stuff. I can't believe you guys are missing my point.

I'm going to check out of this thread. Y'all can go back to hatin' on each other.

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Vic..why is it that i posted a direct rebuttal to this guys post, and all he has to say is "good luck"

thought he said he wanted a fight.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Make no mistake......I am looking for a fight on this one. I have read your crap for years and you are one of the most prejudiced people on the board.

Victim? What are you talking about? I am no one's victim.

I am simply calling you, Swish, and a few others out as being extremely prejudiced. You are as bad as 40, or whatever his name is.

None of you are really getting my point, though.

I am not really trying to bad-mouth you. I am trying to get your young, disturbed, self-pitying selves to understand that hate doesn't solve anything. Try working to solve the problem rather than pointing out............."he did it first."



How am I prejudice? Stop avoiding this question. I even reminded you about it.

Vers, you're one of the most prejudice people I know and your link proves it. You think because a black person shoots a white person that it's racially motivated. It's not. You're looking for imaginary slights like always. It's part of your victim complex. I believe what motivated the guy to shoot the cop is that he is a felon, owns a gun and doing drug deals. That means life in prison. If that Policeman was black instead of white, he would have still been killed. This wasn't a racially motivated shooting.

How am I prejudice though?

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