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Anthony Lima ‏ @ SportsBoyTony 2m 2 minutes ago

Solomon Wilcots just said on Browns radio network that after talking to coaches, Dwayne Bowe needs to deliver tonight to make roster


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I'm not Solomon Wilcots, but so does Pryor.


And the next head coach is ......
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Solomon Wilcots just said on Browns radio network that after talking to coaches, Dwayne Bowe needs to deliver tonight to make roster


That is very vague.

It would make me both happy and sad to see Bowe cut.

Happy because I don't think he's very good (him getting cut would prove that) and that guys are making the team because of their play and not their contracts.

Sad because our entire plan to upgrade at wide receiver consisted of signing Bowe and Hartline (I will admit that the plan might have been different, but we weren't able to get other guys. I just don't know).

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Anthony Lima ‏ @ SportsBoyTony 2m 2 minutes ago

Solomon Wilcots just said on Browns radio network that after talking to coaches, Dwayne Bowe needs to deliver tonight to make roster


That is very vague.

It would make me both happy and sad to see Bowe cut.

Happy because I don't think he's very good (him getting cut would prove that) and that guys are making the team because of their play and not their contracts.

Sad because our entire plan to upgrade at wide receiver consisted of signing Bowe and Hartline (I will admit that the plan might have been different, but we weren't able to get other guys. I just don't know).


A little more info:

'Is Dwayne Bowe on the Browns’ roster bubble?'

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...partner=ya5nbcs

Posted by Zac Jackson on September 3, 2015, 5:31 PM EDT

The Browns signed Dwayne Bowe to a two-year deal last March that included $9 million guaranteed. That should, ahem, guarantee Bowe a roster spot despite the soon to be 31-year old wide receiver missing nearly three weeks of training camp with a sore hamstring and not catching a preseason pass from starting quarterback Josh McCown.

But the Browns have a crowded receiving corps despite not having a true No. 1 receiver, and entering Thursday night’s preseason finale there’s still some uncertainty as to which receivers will make the final roster.

Solomon Wilcots, who works for NFL Network but is paid by the Browns to call preseason games on Cleveland television, appeared on the team’s official pregame radio show Thursday afternoon and hinted that Bowe is not a lock to make the roster.

“He needs to deliver (tonight),” Wilcots said. “After talking to the coaches he needs to show up tonight to be a part of the 53-man roster (this weekend).”

Wilcots didn’t say which coaches to whom he’d spoken, but his words at very least make for an interesting discussion. The Browns also have a decision coming on Terrelle Pryor, who’s trying to transition from quarterback to wide receiver but has yet to play in a preseason game.

Pryor is supposed to play in the preseason finale, but Browns coach Mike Pettine said this week that Pryor doesn’t necessarily have to play to make the 53-man roster.

Brian Hartline, another veteran receiver acquired in the offseason, is going to make the team. Andrew Hawkins and return specialist Travis Benjamin are going to make the team, too. Second-year receiver Taylor Gabriel and Bowe probably make the team, but fourth-round rookie Vince Mayle has had a tough camp.

Pryor is the wildcard and Marlon Moore is listed as a wide receiver but last year was a core special teams player. So, that’s eight players for six or seven spots — and seven probably only make it if Moore makes it.

The Browns earlier this week released defensive tackle Phil Taylor despite Taylor having more than $5.4 million guaranteed. Taylor had offseason knee surgery and might not be healthy enough to play this season.

Another expensive cut seems unlikely, but what Wilcots said at least adds a little intrigue to Thursday night’s preseason finale and the roster moves that will come in the 30 or so hours that follow.



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That article is just a bunch of information we already know, built around the same vague Wilcots quote.

What does need to deliver mean? Does it mean he needs to have a bunch of catches? Run good routes? Stay healthy? Catch a TD? Have over a certain amount of years?

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You think I don't recognize your back-handed slap?




It's probably happened a lot.


Just kidding Mac. I saw EO sticking up for you


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If Bowe gets cuts I'm sure some will blame it on Alex Smith and the Chiefs offense from last year.
But really the fact of the matter is Bowe is like T Rich..very close to being out of the NFL.
The skills that made him good 7,8 years ago is gone.
He's just a big body who can't seperate and he's not the smartest WR.
he got by on being able to have decent speed body positioning and natural talent.
but smarts no.

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Originally Posted By: mac
EO...

You think I don't recognize your back-handed slap?



Well, I didn't recognize it. Enjoy the compliment he gave you.


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j/c:

So, Louis Nix just got cut.


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So, Louis Nix just got cut.


They nixed Nix?


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The Steelers traded Brad Wing to the Giants.

The Giants cut Steve Weatherford.

The 49ers cut Darnell Dockett.

The Titans traded Andy Levitre to the Falcons.

The Bills cut Quentin Groves.

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The Falcons released Yates and Grossman...

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Dolphins cut Freeman

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Originally Posted By: TripleOption
Dolphins cut Freeman


I can't remember a QB who has regressed this severely at such a young age, and it happened like what 3 years and continues

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Matt Barkley got traded to the Cardinals. That says a lot about Logan Thomas.

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That was just tooooo easy. But clever. I giggled. rofl


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I remember liking Logan Thomas the year prior to him declaring..then his last year in college he was even worse...Huge arm and frame...huge athletic ability...zero common sense and accuracy...however he has to be at least on par with Thad Lewis haha

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I am hoping Austin Davis gets cut by the Rams and we bring him in.


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Let the story of Matt Barkley serve as a warning to those with high draft grades going back to school. Was virtually guaranteed to be the #1 pick after his junior year but went back to try for a national title. Didn't come close and had a down year costing him millions. Same can be said for Landry Jones and Brett Hundley


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Originally Posted By: PresidentDawg2
Let the story of Matt Barkley serve as a warning to those with high draft grades going back to school. Was virtually guaranteed to be the #1 pick after his junior year but went back to try for a national title. Didn't come close and had a down year costing him millions. Same can be said for Landry Jones and Brett Hundley


And Sam Bradfo. . . I mean yeah!

(I agree with your overall point, but just wanted to get that in there before someone else. Matt Leinart is another guy who waited one year too long.)

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13585250/seattle-seahawks-fred-jackson-agree-one-year-deal

The Seattle Seahawks have agreed to terms with free-agent running back Fred Jackson on 1-year deal, a source tells ESPN Insider Adam Schefter.

Jackson, 34, was released by the Bills after averaging a career low 3.7 yards per carry last season, but his 66 catches were a career high.

Marshawn Lynch and Jackson have a great relationship from their days in Buffalo, but Carroll said that doesn't have anything to do with the team's interest.

"Only in that I know that Marshawn and he are very good friends and they get along and that's always a good thing," Carroll said. "But other than that, that didn't feed into this. He's just a heck of a football player that might be able to find a role. Depends on how things are going. We've gotta check and see how we're doing on our injuries and stuff."

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The #Colts have traded for #Raiders LB Sio Moore, who is now healthy. Price was a late-round pick


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/639955008994320384

Maybe I am thinking of someone else, but isn't Sio Moore pretty good?

I know he was the guy celebrating in the backfield with Khalil Mack when there was a play about to happen.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...rassing-penalty

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago

#Seahawks RB Robert Turbin (ankle) to be waived with an injury designation, source said. He’s out for about 5 weeks. Will someone claim him?

https://twitter.com/RapSheet


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Turbin is a very athletic and explosive player ... I wouldn't be opposed to picking him up and PUPing him


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Seahawks waived/injured RB Robert Turbin.

Marshawn Lynch's primary backup the past two seasons, Turbin has an ankle injury that will cost him five weeks, per NFL Network's Ian Rapoport.

It sounds like a high ankle sprain, potentially with ligament damage. RapSheet suggests Turbin could be claimed off waivers, though he didn't put anything positive on tape this preseason, decreasing the odds he is. If Turbin is not claimed, he will head to the Seahawks' injured reserve list. The Seahawks will enter the season with Fred Jackson as Lynch's clear-cut backup. They are reportedly shopping Christine Michael in trade talks, and would like to keep UDFA Thomas Rawls.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football

I reposted this because of 2 comments in the rotoworld anaylysis.

1 - The way they say: if he isn't claimed on waivers then he will end up on the Seahawks IR list. Does that mean if we do claim him that we could not put him on PUP? Why would the Seahawks waive him then put him on IR if not claimed? Why wouldn't they just put him on IR?

2 - Christine Micheal is on the trade block. I don't know much about him. Don't remember him from college and haven't seen much of him in the NFL but the past 2 years the fantsy football world was all abuzz about him. Thinking he would surpass Turbin for the #2 role and be the main guy if Lynch would have gotten injured. There was even worry that he would eat into Lynch's touches, esp on passing downs. Though that never seemed to materialize. Anybody know enough about him to comment on him?


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I said I was hoping we would bring in Fred Jackson. I can see why we didn't. After all, Seattle has a worse team and their RBs are not as good as ours.

There are reasons some teams suck and some teams are good.


Maybe we didn't bring in Fred Jackson because Fred Jackson would rather play for Seattle?


It was said that everyone knew he was going to sign with them as soon as he got cut. Apparently he is still very good friends with Marshawn Lynch. Also, Seahawks > Browns.


And now we have an answer.....


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If anybody is interested in a bigger-bodied, productive WR or a bruising, 266 lb, lead-blocking FB who can catch the ball, the Giants cuts WR James Jones (6-1, 200) and FB Henry Hynoski (6-1, 266).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/

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Isn't Hynoski one of the top FBs in the league...I wouldn't mind him...James Jones is like Bowe, only a ton more cheaper

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I said I was hoping we would bring in Fred Jackson. I can see why we didn't. After all, Seattle has a worse team and their RBs are not as good as ours.

There are reasons some teams suck and some teams are good.


Maybe we didn't bring in Fred Jackson because Fred Jackson would rather play for Seattle?


It was said that everyone knew he was going to sign with them as soon as he got cut. Apparently he is still very good friends with Marshawn Lynch. Also, Seahawks > Browns.


And now we have an answer.....


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I had a feeling they would try to get him.

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James Jones is like Bowe, only a ton more cheaper


There's that, plus Jones actually had 6 TD receptions last year.

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Starting to think Bowe is gonna be this teams new Dante Stallworth.

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Originally Posted By: Dave
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James Jones is like Bowe, only a ton more cheaper


There's that, plus Jones actually had 6 TD receptions last year.


Good fact...and I believe that was in Oakland of all places...which should equate to 10 TDs on a normal NFL team lol

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James Jones is like Bowe, only a ton more cheaper


There's that, plus Jones actually had 6 TD receptions last year.


Good fact...and I believe that was in Oakland of all places...which should equate to 10 TDs on a normal NFL team lol


How many does that equate to on our team?


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Atlanta's RB Antwone Smith is intriguing if healthy...He makes big plays in the passing game along with big runs too...Don't know if he's still injured though

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Starting to think Bowe is gonna be this teams new Dante Stallworth.


He killed somebody?

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for anyone who wanted Holloman from Louisville, the Steelers cut him today. He's not even good enough for their terrible secondary.

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I get the feeling that a bunch of the Browns players are not happy with Bowe being retained and Lenz being cut. I know they realize the financial situation of the entire thing with Bowe's 9m guaranteed, but it really seems like they weren't happy with Bowe half-assing the entire training camp. That dude better show up this season.

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It will be interesting when Mayle makes the team lol

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Originally Posted By: Jester
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James Jones is like Bowe, only a ton more cheaper


There's that, plus Jones actually had 6 TD receptions last year.


Good fact...and I believe that was in Oakland of all places...which should equate to 10 TDs on a normal NFL team lol


How many does that equate to on our team?
6 TDs same as Raiders lol both sub par teams

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