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--We probably signed Pazstor because he does play like a Brown.........you know, missing time due to a hamstring injury.

--tab, why do you feel the need to insult other posters on every post you make? It's not an occasional thing. It's on every single post. And if anyone should keep quiet about evaluating rosters, it's you. You have been wrong more about our roster than any other poster on here. And it ain't close. Stop laughing at others and start listening to them. You'll be better off and come to think of it........so will we because we won't have to read that drivel.

--So tab asks guys to post links and a couple of guys do. What happens? They get mocked. Amazing!

--It is rare for players to say what our players did. If those comments went public, you can guarantee that there are a ton of guys thinking similar things.

--Rish, all I know is that my player evaluations have been more accurate than the evaluations made by Brown's management for many, many years. So mock and laugh at guys me if you like, but I doubt you will be laughing at the end of the season.

Cassel is just as bad as McCown. He hasn't been good since 2010. Since 2010 he has been really bad: 59% completion, 30 TDs, and 34 INTs. He was benched in three out of those four years.

McCown stinks, but so does Cassel. Now is not the time to address the QB position. That time has passed.

I'm not mocking you and it's not hard to be right about Browns players. You can't truly evaluate players until a team has a QB. Every player's deficiencies are magnified on a team with no QB so it's easy to point to a guy and say he sucks. Then everything gets magnified even further when you have a ton of turnover at coach and FO.

So while you think you possess some magical evaluation skills, I think it's just making an educated guess. Color me not impressed.

They said both were raw. Gordon had played receiver his whole life, before entering the NFL. Pryor has played a couple of snaps in a preseason game. From those few snaps we know that he is a "good" blocker.

I understand why Pryor is on the roster. People need to slow down when proclaiming Pryor is anything more than a lottery ticket.

Yet every NFL team has a season motto. I listed some on another thread, the Steelers and Ravens mottos, IIRC.

Do you know what they are?

Tomlin has used "The standard is the standard" quite often in his time in Pittsburgh.

The Ravens, under Harbaugh, have used a new one each year.

Here are some of them:

2008: What’s Our Name?
2009: Play Like a Raven
2010: W.I.N.
2011: Relentless
2012: TEAM
2013: Here We Are

http://russellstreetreport.com/2014/03/0...ns-2014-season/

Google can easily provide more information if you want. I don't feel like looking up the Ravens 2014 slogan, because too much time spent typing anything Baltimore makes me feel dirty, and not in any good way.

lol thanks ytown ... sadly our slogans havent produced the same result

Just something to sell T-shirts

I wasn't trying to impress you.

I was stating a fact.

You can talk definitively, but in my opinion, which probably is a bit more astute than yours...........Cassell is a better qb than McCown.

I am not saying he is great. I am saying he is better than McCown.

I am also suggesting that w/Johnny's arm issues and his seemingly lack of durability, it might not be a bad idea to bring in a guy who could offer some stability.

I don't get the beef????

Both are bad. We are not carrying three QBs and we suck either way.

Oh and. . .



Nooooooooooooope.

Okay cfrs...........I'm sure you have way more "paid" experience than I do.

And you are still ignoring the fact that Cassell is better than McCown.

You don't know who I am or what I've done.

Cassel (one "l") has been better than McCown in the past. They are both among the worst QBs in the league right now. If given the choice, I take the guy who has been around if both are bad options.

You are right. I don't know. Share w/me.

You can stick w/McCown and JM, but personally, I think it would be worth the investment to bring Cassell in here. Not asking you to agree. I am stating my opinion.

I want to add to my last post. I have tried to keep my posts short and not-so-sweet [LOL] because of the poor attention span of our younger posters. Anyone remember the novellas we used to write on here in the early 2000s?

Anyway.....McCown stinks. I think he will implode. And even if he doesn't, did anyone notice how he threw his body around in meaningless preseason games? Did anyone notice Pet pointing to his head, as in---be smart? Did anyone else notice how long he holds the ball? Did anyone else notice how poor his pocket presence is and how he subjects himself to hits?

Do I need to tell you my football point or can you make your own inference?

Now, let's go to our number two guy. He's had elbow problems since high school. I was a pitcher and SS. Got tendinitis in high school. It does not go away. Fact! Let's say that there is absolutely NO concern about his elbow [that's dumb, but let's play dumb.] The guy is not very big. He puts himself in some bad positions when being tackled. He didn't last two full games last year. Do you really think he can be counted on as durable at this point.

Let's take it a step further...........he is coming off of rehab. He has shown positive signs thus far, but I think all of us know people who have rehabbed.........what is their success rate?

So, let's pass on a guy who we know that at this point is probably better than the two we have and will most certainly get picked up by someone else because we absolutely are certain that our two qbs will not only play well, but will be around for the entire year.

Brilliant freaking plan, y'all!

Teams don't carry three QBs. Especially with two of them being like Cassel and McCown.

Okay.............we'll see what you say when we get dissed by the likes of Rex Grossman later in the year.

So, Pet stole that from the Jets? He did coach there, right?

That's even more disappointing.

And the Jets stole it from the Ravens (Rex).

Are we really surprised that football coaches lack creativity?

I was a football coach. I came up w/my own slogans and/or mantras.

You are obviously unique. You also have other interests outside of football.

YTown's post showed the Ravens used the same slogan as well. Pettne also coached there. Maybe it was Pettine's idea from the beginning. Maybe not.

Maybe the slogan is stupid as hell. But two other teams have used it so maybe they didn't think it so stupid.

I'm unique all right. That's not a good thing.

When you cut a guy like Lentz and keep guys like Bowe and Pryor................your slogan is worthless!

I have to add to this:

One thing I have learned from years of coaching, owning a business, and teaching...............is this:

Don't BS the people you are leading. Be honest as hell. Even if it hurts. But, don't BS them. Leadership is all about trust, inspiration, and accountability. Don't dare ever try to deceive your people w/BS!

Rule number one!

Every year there is outrage on these boards when certain players get cut. Let's get real. When training camp starts every coach and GM for all 30 teams have already decided upon o 48 players. They only have a few spots open in their minds. Dwayne Bowe was never on the chopping block!!! If Pettine was unhappy about his participation during camp he might let something out in the media that he is playing for his job like last week. That is his way to send Bowe and other vets a message.

I had a strong feeling that Pryor was safe also when the team held him out of game 3 and said if this was a regular season game he would be able to play. It was a coached decision. Coached don't hold players out of pre season games if they are going to cut them.

I do not understand this outrage every year for these cuts. Last year there were posters up in arms about Leon McFaddden. I know who? Well he was signed by the Jets. Then cut. This season he was signed by the 49ers and yesterday again cut.

Lets face it. At best we will be a .500 team at worst we will have the top pick in the draft in 2016. None of the players cut would change that.

I was a fan of McFadden. I admitted it. I also admitted I was wrong. How many times do I need to do so?

Do you really wanna compare our histories in evaluating players?

Seriously?

My vote is for Austin Davis

Jeremy Fowler ‏@JFowlerESPN 27s28 seconds ago

Filed to ESPN that QB Austin Davis is flying to Cleveland tonight for a visit/physical with Browns on Monday.... http://espn.go.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0432370491689277701-4 …

If the Browns cut their other QB it must mean his elbow is alright. They aren't foolish enough to only keep two qb's when one has a nagging injury? Are they? Are they... crap!

As far as the BS goes. I remember working for a mason when I first got out of high school. One of our guys used to pull crap all the time, like come in an hour late and throw a gas can on the hood of his car like he was proving the reason he couldn't get his butt moving in the morning. The old man would say, "Eric don't try to baffle me with bullshit." Baffled by bullshit; that still makes me laugh.

Wait! What?

We are bringing in Austin Davis over Matt Cassell?

I yi yi yi.................Can't wait to hear the "logical" explanations on this one.

Sweet!!!!

Matt Cassel might not want to come and be 3rd string QB?

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Former St. Louis Rams quarterback Austin Davis is flying to Cleveland on Sunday night for a visit and a physical with the Cleveland Browns, according to sources. If all goes well with the Browns' roster maneuvering, Davis is expected to sign a contract with the team.

Davis started eight games for the Rams last year, throwing for 2,001 yards, 12 touchdowns and nine interceptions. The Rams cut Davis on Saturday, and he cleared waivers today. The Browns have been interested in Davis since the spring, when they inquired about his services.

Davis will join a quarterback room with Josh McCown and Johnny Manziel.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13600480/austin-davis-flies-cleveland-expected-sign-browns

Austin Davis is eligible for the practice squad. Matt Cassel is not.



http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/8/29/6077941/nfl-practice-squad-rules-eligibility-salary-deadline

Austin Davis has been active for ten games in his career.

Logical enough for you?

I like Davis, thought he showed some real potential. Cassell blah seen to many of his games, reminds me to much of quinn.

I'm not sure where you're shooting here!!!

Davis is a younger version of McCown. He did ok for St. Louis filling in for Bradford. Kid works/acts like Colt McCoy. He is a good kid. I don't think will ever be a starter. He makes a better backup than Shaw.

Why get snarky? Sheesh!

I prefer Cassell over Davis and it ain't close.

Disagree w/me.......fine. But stop w/the snarky attitude, tab.

I am "shooting" for Cassell is a much better qb than Davis. What is so hard to understand?

You guys keep defending Farmer no matter what.

Tell me................what is his track record w/qbs that give you so much faith?