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I seriously doubt that. Perhaps one or the other had feelers from another team that they preferred, or maybe they just weren't asked for one reason or another. Maybe the Browns like Jennings' potential as a returner? Who knows?

If a young player is unemployed, I doubt that he tells a team that wants to give him an opportunity to continue his NFL career, and his dream, to "go eff themselves." There are no guarantees that they will ever get another shot.

UPDATE: It appears as though Wynn will sign to the Browns' practice squad on Sunday.

Here is the status of other practice squad eligible players you might be wondering about:

What About These Players?

QB Pat Devlin - Unsigned
RB Timothy Flanders - Unsigned
WR Vince Mayle - Unsigned
WR Josh Lenz - Unsigned
OG Karim Barton - Signed to the Texans' practice squad.
OL Vinston Painter - Unsigned
OL Eric Olsen - Unsigned
DL Jacobbi McDaniel - Unsigned
DL Dylan Wynn - Unsigned
OLB Mike Reilly - Unsigned
CB Robert Nelson - Signed to the Cardinals' practice squad.
CB Joe Rankin - Unsigned
S Landon Feichter - Unsigned

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2015/9/6/92...s-hayes-pullard

Cool. I think that Wynn showed some potential, and reportedly looked good, especially early in camp.

I actually liked Jennings as much as Lenz ... plus he's a returner, which helps his versatility. Are we talking Dylan Wynn or Shane Wynn?

I'm glad we were able to get back Haynes Pullard. Undersized but he's physical and usually always around the ball. Shocked we were able to get him back.

Actually happy about Jennings too. I liked him as a WR and returner, just needs to learn how to secure the ball while in transition.

I'm shocked a ton of players spoke up about Lenz and no one wants him. I'm more shocked the FO couldn't create one space for him on the PS.

I'm struggling with the reasoning keeping Lenz. I like the kid, but who are you sitting in order for this kid to play on Sunday? Gabriel, Benjamin, or Hawkins? Browns are weak in the red zone. Are you sitting Bowe or Pryor playing Lenz? Who do you sit on special teams Lenz is better?

I get "play like a Brown." I also get athlete and talent. I believe last year this was a big tic against Farmer/Pettine for having so few.

This is good debate. Teams need athletes as well as lunch pail guys. What is the correct percentage? When do you decide to take the lunch pail guy over the athlete?

I don't get all this angst over releasing Lenz, the guy has been on the roster or practice squade of 3 three previous teams they all had the chance to evaluate his talent and said no thanks. Now he is released by the browns and Pettine and Farmer are the bad guys for not signing this "great talent". I liked the guy but it's just another day in NFL for 100's of players like him that didn't make the cut.

Browns sign Austin Davis, add two to practice squad
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Former Rams QB started eight games in 2014

BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns on Monday signed QB Austin Davis to the 53-man roster and signed OL Garth Gerhart and DL Dylan Wynn to the practice squad. In addition, the club placed DB Charles Gaines (hamstring) on injured reserve – designated for return.
Davis is 6-2, 221-pounds and in his fourth NFL season out of Southern Mississippi. Originally signed by St. Louis as an undrafted free agent in 2012, Davis made his NFL debut last year appearing in 10 games (eight starts) with the Rams. He completed 180 of 284 passes (63.4 percent) for 2,001 yards with 12 touchdowns and nine interceptions. He set USM single-season and career records for passing yards, touchdowns and completion percentage. A native of Collinsville, Miss., Davis graduated from West Lauderdale High School.
Gaines, a sixth round pick this year, will be eligible to return to practice Week 6 and eligible to play Week 8.
Gerhart is 6-1, 310 pounds and officially in his second NFL season out of Arizona State. He re-joins the Browns after initially signing with the club as an undrafted free agent in 2012 and spent that season on the club’s practice squad. He appeared in two games with the Packers last season. His brother, Toby, is a running back for the Jaguars. A native of Corona, Calif., Gerhart graduated from Norco High School.
Wynn signed with the Browns as an undrafted free agent in May and was waived during final roster cuts.
The practice squad is now at the NFL maximum 10 players.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...bd-9171d027c0d5

Disappointing news about Gaines.

Weird situation with Lenz. Wonder why he's not on the practice squad.

Could it be that Lenz isn't on the practice squad because they know there's little chance he'll get snagged by another team. They put guys on the practice square they value BUT ALSO are perceived to have value with other teams. Since signing a player off another team's squad requires a team to put on the active 53 those players have an added barrier to becoming unavailable. Lens is exciting but he's high risk/ low percentage for any team who doesn't have a specific role for his specific skill set.

What ever this Team 25 to 28 Real Teams would do differently !

So Shaun Draughn is back on the PS and expected to be on our 53 roster... Wonder who's getting cut...

Vince Mayle is on the practice squad for the Dallas Cowboys. Check the end of the article: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2015/0...-brinkley.html/

Something tells me people won't be too upset about this.

Nope.

Just checked the ESPN tracker. Lenz still not on anyone's PS (at least as far as the tracker is current) but Mayle is. Interesting.

Nope.

Just checked the ESPN tracker. Lenz still not on anyone's PS (at least as far as the tracker is current) but Mayle is. Interesting.

According to Pettine, he didn't want to sign with our PS because he wanted to explore other options. Dallas was obviously his other option. If he doesn't want to be here, then we don't need him.

I interpreted Pettine's comments about Mayle that he was unhappy with the team for cutting him and would rather be somewhere else. I could have the wrong read on it, but I guess he found somewhere else.

That's a deep reach based on what Pettine actually said, but whatever Mayle's reasoning, he is most welcome to ply his trade elsewhere. It sucks the pick didn't work out, but I will take Prior on the squad over Mayle on the PS any day. (If he has even a fraction of the impact Braxton Miller had last night we are golden.)

I would have kept Pryor over Mayle as well.

One guy can catch, one guy can't.

I have no problems with Mayle not being on the team whether it was own choice or the coaches.

Browns
A Nick Wilson Ode To Josh Lenz

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/09/05/a-nick-wilson-ode-to-josh-lenz/

If Mayle didn't want to sign here so be it ... from a performance standpoint he didn't deserve it

oh well if Nick Wilson has a man crush on him ( who ever the hell Nick Wilson is) then Lenz must be a stud.

You can tell by the 31 other teams lining up to sign him to their final 53... er PS...... er .........

And there it is.

Should have never used that decently high round pick on him. JMO but it was incredibly stupid. I doubt highly he makes Cowboy's practice squad.

And I'm a little shocked about Lenz. I kind of thought he'd already been taken by now. Shocked Mayle got a second shot before he did.

Nick Wilson « CBS Cleveland
Nick Wilson is a second generation radio lifer. As a young man, he used to join his father, Big Jim Wilson's radio show on WRRO in Warren, Ohio to talk sports.

well there is 5 minutes I will never get back....

Mayle has huge upside. He has the size/speed you want at WR. He has all of the unteachable things. If a team develops him, they have a plus level starter.

Lenz is a small, slower receiver. If you develop him, you have a small, slower receiver. You might get a slot guy .... and we already have at least 2 or 3 guys who can already play the slot.

The Browns took a shot with Mayle because he was worth a shot. They had a ton of draft picks, so they took a shot on a guy they thought could become something special.

Then Pryor fell into their laps, and not only that, but he really looks like he might make the transition to WR. That really changed the equation. I think that Mayle would have made this team, on potential alone, if not for Pryor. Pryor changed everything though.

We're talking about a receiver. You can't coach size, you can't coach speed, and truthfully, I'm of the opinion that at this level/age, you can't coach catching the ball.

You can either catch, or you can't.

I'm not agreeing with you, not disagreeing. But I don't think you can coach "catching". JMO.

That's why you should never draft WR's who can't catch. We've seen it here too often. Physical specimens with bad hands. Add Mayle to the list.

I used to think that was a load of crap... that it could be taught but when you survey the landscape of receivers we drafted that has issued in college... those same issues followed them to the nfl and no matter how much time spent on the jugs machine or with coaches, they just never seemed to get better... still seems weird to me, but the proof is there.

You can improve it though, especially with a guy like Mayle, who has only played the position for a couple of years.

There have been a number of guys who had their hands questioned coming into the league, who learned to improve them.

The Steelers have done wonders with guys like this. They took Mike Wallace, "Lets too many passes into his pads, resulting in some ugly drops", and turned him into a force on offense. link to NFL scouting report

They took Antonio Brown, who "has decent hands but it looks like the ball gets big on him at times and he traps too many passes in his body", and "needs to become more consistent catching the ball in a crowd", and turned him into a superstar with glue hands. Link to NFL scouting report

They took Martavis Bryant, a guy with "shaky hands -- tends to double-clutch the ball and makes too many easy drops", and who was "a better tester than football player at this stage of his development, he has tools to be molded if he learns to hone his focus", and turned him into a guy who looks like a major offensive weapon. Link to NFL scouting report

Some teams do a great job with this kind of player, and the Steelers, unfortunately, are one. Having a top end QB is also a big piece of that particular puzzle. I do think that receivers can improve their hands to a large degree as a pro, but it takes having a lot of the right pieces in place.

I think that by the time your in the NFL, if you are a WR that can't catch, there are other problems causing that. These guys make it through college because the 1 out of every 3 times that it is thrown to them and they actually catch the football, it goes for a big TD. They think they can get by on athleticism and don't put it the effort. Those things change in the NFL. Yes you can coach catching the football, but the guy on the other end has to be coach-able. Too many Divas in the WR spot think that effort is what guys without their talent have to put in. WR is already one of the hardest spots to learn in the NFL because of precise route running, hot route reads, and timing routes with the QB. You add a few thousand reps on top of that with a JUGS machine and it's just too much for guys that figured out things too late.

Yeah, so, like I said, you can't teach "catching". None of those guys had trouble catching. The only issue (receiving wise, that is), was some nitpicker saying "lets the ball get to his pads sometimes."

You can coach, to a limited extent, "catch with your hands, not your body", but you can't coach catching. Maybe I'm nit picking now, I don't know.

I don't think Mayle's problem was can't catch as he made some great catches in college I think his stems from a lack of concentration and he also had problems route running. He only played WR 1 year at a Community college and 2 years at Washington St., before that he was focusing on basketball. If someone can work with him on the nuances of the game and he's willing to put in the time I think Mayle can be a decent player.