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I've never said the girls should be forced to view penises.

Your point about transgenders is exactly what this issue is all about.

If my girls were in a restroom or locker room and any transgender, straight, gay, football player, nerd, marine, accountant, priest or satan tried to enter to wave his penis around then the only fear or physical trauma experienced would be the guy trying to get in.

I think if the girls didn't want this kid in their bathroom he wouldn't be. If the bathrooms aren't secure and private enough for this kid (and again I'm not saying the girls should be forced to accept that) then they're not secure for anybody and the school should be addressing restroom security in general.

I still think the concern for girls in this issue is over-blown and bogus.

Just change the signs over the doors to "Male Parts" and "Female Parts".

If your thinking is to leave it to your girls to handle the Tranny and force him out of the ladies room, carry a large amount of Liability Insurance because they never sue the kids, only the parents.

Time to arm your daughters with cattle prods.

The best thing to do is to tell your young daughters to get used to penis's in the ladies room because the Government says the needs of 0.1 percent of the populations outweighs the needs of the 99 percent. If you have something against that, there is
something wrong with YOU!

Progressive/Libthingy Law rules!

Just have them use the mens room then. There are no men left anyway.

God dont have anything to do with it. It's called one was born with a penis(MALE) and the other a vagina(FEMALE). Let me guess, according to you being born with a penis does not make you a male and being born with a vagina does not make you a female... Is that about right?

So if a kid were bullying your kid you would say, "Think about the liability"?

Let me guess; you haven't read much of the continuing dialogue I've had with others through this thread.

But that's ok.

Of course god doesn't have anything to do with it. It's all about stating opinions about transgenders while pretending a concern for girls.

BTW, your post at least addresses the single issue of transgender, and it's blindingly obvious and simplistic nature demonstrates the depth most want to approach in this discussion.

If at your age you need affirmation about your understanding of genitalia I would suggest Dr. Ruth if she's still alive.

Sounds reasonable if not irrationally terrified.

Rock, I would say the problem is more that you don't seem to understand what most people call a sense of decency. Decent people don't want a penis around their daughters. Especially when it's against their will.

A boy who wishes he was a girl or even thinks he is a girl in spite of the physical evidence otherwise is still a boy. A confused boy with issues to be sure but still a boy. That doesn't entitle him to be in the same room as my daughter while she is getting undressed. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

I understand the sense of decency perfectly.

Why do you not comprehend that my point has nothing to do with forcing girls to look at penises. I've explained a number of times in different ways.

My point is the school should provide safe and secure facilities for all students and my opinion is they should be able to handle that without media or religious groups crying concern for girls when normally they are dead silent on that issue.

If a girl's honor and dignity is at stake then why would, what you call a normal girl, want a lesbian in the girl bathrooms, because according to your reasoning she would only to be there to stare at the girl's bodies. Is the absence of a lesbian's penis all that matters?

Most of your post repeats the same opinion about your belief in the reality of transgenders. I'm ok with that, but you can't simply support that opinion by stating the obvious physicality - in spite of medical evidence of misformed genitalia at birth - or by claiming your support for decency.

Stick with discussing transgenders or post a thread about the real threats to a girl's physical and emotional safety.

No, I am just saying if your kid forces the 'T' out of the Bathroom, the T can claim assault and discrimination which is
a Federal crime and you will be forced to defend it in court. Very expensive. You could claim the T was waving his junk but you would still be in court spending your savings.

Best to tell the Girls to leave the bathroom or live with the junk IMHO. Times have changed and the world is more litigious than ever.

Maybe I am incorrect, but wasn't it the kid who brought it to the media? And didn't they try to give options that were refused?

Maybe in a related article it states he went to the media.

It seems to me more likely that an issue that deserves some significant attention was being discussed at the school board meeting So I think it's more likely that the media came to the source, especially considering what was happening on the internet and the fact that religious groups got involved.

Exactly he refused to be accommodated by having his own private restroom. He insisted on changing in front of the other girls. To me that is someone refusing reason and fairness. It's sad that one messed up kid should be allowed to cause so much commotion and distraction where learning should be taking place.

Can you explain why the article says the kid "requested" to use the girls locker room and how he "refused" to use the faculty bathroom, because my reading skills see the word "requested"? Also, all I read was the kid "previously used" a unisex faculty bathroom. Maybe the faculty "refused" to let the kid continue to use it.

I'm not sure I've reached your "exact" conclusions based on what's been written here. Have you read other articles that support your conclusions?

That might help me out with your "messed up" diagnosis.

I also read the kid stopped attending gym due to a fear of "her" life being threatened.

I'm not sure if it was the girls who caused the kid to be afraid, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was.

The original article states the school gave him/her permission to use the girls locker room. Which many are probably interpreting as someone requested to use them at some point, or chances are the school would not have had to make a decision to allow it.