DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns waive Terrelle Pryor

Not all Browns' players are trying to switch positions either.

And I have every right to feel how I want, do I not? I was excited for him and hoping he beat the odds... Jeesh.

You have every right to feel that way, yes. But you being excited about Pryor in the first place was probably not justified by rational reasoning.

You are a fan. So am I. We are on a message board to have conversations like this.

{{{SIGH}}}

I don't know what the most stupid thing about this picture.

1. That someone bought a jersey of a player who has never played the position in his career.

2. That Pryor then changed his jersey number.

3. That anyone would buy a Browns jersey at all after the history of the team.

Most teams are still making transactions. But yeah, good point!

http://www.nfl.com/transactions

Come on guys we're really face palming over losing Pryor?

He is no loss.

I was really intrigued with Terrell Pryor trying to transition to WR, and heard a lot of good things about him. He appeared more than willing to block at the position, and also to work hard on special teams. He absolutely has intriguing physical measurables. Unfortunately, the NFL often becoems a numbers game, and the team decided that having an extra TE and QB was more important than having the Terrell Pryor experiment continue.

I would not be surprised if he passes waivers, and we wind up re-signing him down the road, though.

Honestly? I'm bummed out. We needed a tall receiver with good hands, but I guess he wasn't good enough? Who knows (sighs)..........

I firmly believe that this move was discussed prior to Farmers suspension taking effect

Maybe my "meh" attitude comes from the fact that I'm not really an tOSU fan.

Turbin is injured right now- I get that.
BUT: TP has been nursing injury all through training camp, too.

Turbin has documented history of production (tho somewhat limited) AT THE POSITION HE WAS DRAFTED TO PLAY.
Pryor: still learning a new position. While gimpy.

Browns want a run-heavy O. Pryor isn't really an important part of that.
Turbin is... and should be healthy enough to play at least 2/3 of the season.

PLUS: Turbin's a productive back with very little NFL wear & tear. More upside than question marks, imho.


I understand why some are upet, miffed, baffled... but it actually makes a bit of sense to me- a fan sitting on the sidelines.


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thing is from the little i have read Seattle is thin on RBs too?

Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot 4m4 minutes ago
#Browns new RB Robert Turbin told http://cleveland.com docs said he'd be out about 4-6 weeks w/ high ankle sprain but he's hurrying.

Pryor was a 3rd string QB who also happened to be a very gifted athlete, once Austin Davis was signed Pryor was no longer needed. The trade of West may have also played some part in his release. I think they held on to him as contingency plan until they saw see how certain trades played out.

I would say that logic dictates contingency plans were in place.

How will you OSU homers survive now?????

Oh absolutely..

We need to get our running game in order, we will be a running team.

Turbin is a great compliment to that part of the roster & will be a big help. He's ready in two weeks we're better at that position.

You never know, the timing for Pryor clear waivers is good, he might be back on the roster by Sunday night.

Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot 4m4 minutes ago
#Browns new RB Robert Turbin told http://cleveland.com docs said he'd be out about 4-6 weeks w/ high ankle sprain but he's hurrying.

That's my big problem.. Turbin will be doing the same thing..sitting on the sideline.

The Gaines to IR thing didn't even make it past week one to look really stupid.

This is why you don't put your 7th CB on the depth chart on that list. If you wanted to keep Gaines, just put him on the season long IR, he won't see the field anyway. What an incredibly moronic move

I'll argue that the real reason for this whole Gaines/IR fiasco is Farmer's ego and incompetence to build a roster. Because cutting two of his draft picks would have looked bad on his already "spotty" track record

At least Pryor was healthy. At least see what he could do instead of signing a injured RB. GEEZ.

Let's hope "Text" gets a permanent suspension soon.

5 Browns observations: The latest on Dwayne Bowe and more

Veteran WR ‘playing like a Brown’

A busy Thursday just got busier with news of the Browns’ latest transaction.
Here’s what we saw and heard throughout the day as Cleveland gets closer and closer to its season opener against the New York Jets.

Dwayne Bowe ‘playing like a Brown,’ John DeFilippo says........

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...ce-2d646b7b184d

sorry. i had to stop copy and paste right there. laughing too hard.....

I am kind of tired of this "Play like a Brown" thing pblack. Until we field a average to above average team, it is quite comical.

I'm starting to think our OC will be remembered as John DeFloppo 12 months from now...

LOL Django..That will become my new nickname for him... DeFloppo and "Text!"

I am no OSU homer, at all. I still don't like this move. Pryor was unproven, but he was also a beast of an athlete and the biggest WR on the roster. Bowe has done literally nothing, 3 seasons straight with less than 1000 yards receiving (meanwhile KC was 11-5, 9-7 the past two seasons).

AND this: Questionable Bowe (hamstring) was limited at practice Wednesday, the Akron Beacon Journal reports. (about 23 hours ago), he's
still hurt too.


We almost have the statistics to field enough jockey's to run the Kentucky Derby.

Benjamin - 5-10" 175 lb
Bowe - 6-2" 222 lb
Gabriel - 5-8" 167 lb
Hartline - 6-2 200 lb
Hawkins - 5-7 180 lb
Moore - 6-0 190 lb
Pryor - 6-4" 223 lb

The sad truth for me, is that we have no play makers, we have no one exciting playing for our offense. Crowell? Hartline? McCown sure gets me excited!

Proven mediocrity on our roster, is going to lead to a mediocre season.

Was hoping Pryor could develop into something but I don't have problem with this move as Pryor wasn't likely to be game day active to start out this season anyways and with the West trade we needed to add another back.

The remaining ones are definitely short enough to be jockeys...

j/c:

A few points/opinions:

--Do people really believe that Farmer isn't having any contact w/the Browns? Seriously? Do you really believe he is following the rules of the suspension? That isn't even a knock on the guy. It's freaking common sense.

--I liked Pryor's potential, but I would have kept Lenz over him, so I am not going to go off about cutting him.

--On the other hand, why the hell do we cut him and acquire a RB who is going to be out 4 to 6 weeks? That is freaking ignorant.

--And this Flip guy? Is he for real? Btw.........what experience does he have at being an OC before? I don't think he has been one in the NFL, right? How about college?

--Building off of that, the QB coach, McConnell............what previous experience does he have at working in the NFL? Any other QB coach gigs? Did he have a wealth of collegiate coaching experience?

--You know, I could be wrong about both of those guys and that is why I am asking, so please answer, but I don't think either guy has experience at their current jobs.

--Then, we got Farmer, who never drafted before running our draft and ignoring the scouting agency Banner put in place.

--We have a defensive HC who now wants to be involved in the offense.

--We have a GM who makes ignorant statements about finding a magical formula for qbs.

--We have an OL coach who is out because of an alleged assault.

--Our first round qb is coming off of rehab.

--Our first cb from a year ago would rather sleep than study film.

--We ..........do I need to go on?

This regime is a dumpster fire!

That's all true, but again just proves further that our GM has no plan whatsoever. He keeps a project in Pryor, ok, so he keeps him for the future. No, 2 days later he waives him because he needed another RB. Oh, but this RB will miss some weeks. So to the IR-DfR he goes? No, he already put his 6th rd rook who would not have seen the field anyway on it. Just perfect. He has as much foresight as my 10yo niece

And just to remember another painful fact about Farmer. He was the GM that cut Charles Johnson from the team last TC. The same Charles Johnson that starts at WR for the Vikings and is considered one of the biggest potential breakout players in the league. Very smart, guy knows talent when he sees it, lol

my goodness. just can not stop laughing..

According to this story from 12th Man Rising, “Turbin is a great backup running back for the Seattle Seahawks. His receiving skills and blitz pickup abilities make him an ideal third-down back.”

However, it is this next part that will sound uncomfortably familiar to Browns fans:

A great example of what troubles him came in the first quarter of last Friday’s preseason game against the Denver Broncos. Turbin had a path to the end zone, but his inability to properly read the blocking cost the Seahawks a touchdown.

The blocking on this play is pretty straightforward. Justin Britt, Luke Wilson, Doug Baldwin and FB Brandon Cottom lead, while JR Sweezy and everyone to his left seal the inside. The result is a hole through the B-gap.

This isn’t inside zone. There’s no attempt to extend the defense laterally or create cutback opportunities. This is about as basic of a run play as they come.

As Tubin get closer to the hole, the blocking has developed. There’s a clear path to the end zone if Turbin run through the hole as the play is designed.

Instead, he cuts back to his left where there are two unblocked defenders. By going in that direction, the blocking on the inside is actually pushing some of the blocked defenders into his path.

A step later it is easy to see how much of a mistake he made. Turbin gets stopped for no gain, but if he’d read his blocking correctly it likely would have been a touchdown.

Yeah, we told you it wasn’t pretty.

But the Browns are not bringing in Turbin to be the starting running back, so we can worry about his inability to correctly read a block for a later day.

http://dawgpounddaily.com/2015/09/10/cleveland-browns-release-terrelle-pryor/

Yup! We're pretty @$()*@ed.

My only issue is we cut him to make room for a RB who is expected to miss 3-4 weeks. He serves no purpose so why not have kept Pryor and continue to see what he can do or if he could contribute... then cut him if/when we really needed a back. We have Draughns on the scoot team as a "oh-no" person.

IDK. But that's JMO.

Maybe they were high on Turbin and were afraid someone else would scoop him up.

Weeks of pent up frustration flowing now, why stop?

My favorite parts..
“We are going to need to find a way to create explosive pass gains,” DeFilippo said. - Really? Brilliant. I'm sure Revis and Cromartie will just...let us throw deep on them all game.

-“We spent a lot of time in our game planning process (this week) putting guys in the right spots,” offensive coordinator John DeFilippo said. “If you looked at our playbook, we probably have more formations than a lot of people because our guys have such different skill sets.” - I have no words. WTH. You can put them in any spot you want, that doesn't auto-magically give them "skill sets".

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...98-28b6a5277974

How Cleveland will attack New York on offense and defense

We’ve told you our five matchups to watch, why Danny Shelton will be so important against the New York Jets and how Mike Pettine and the coaching staff put more energy into their Week 1 opponent than anyone else on the schedule.
So how will the Browns win their first season opener since 2004? We dive right in.
Browns offensive strategy vs. Jets defense

-Short, quick-fire, West Coast passing, ala the long touchdown drives in the preseason against the Buccaneers. In training camp, the Browns did an adequate job in spreading out the location of their passing game, equally using the middle of the field and the sidelines. Against the Jets, scattering the field – and attacking the middle – is necessary because of Pro Bowl cornerbacks Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie.
-“We spent a lot of time in our game planning process (this week) putting guys in the right spots,” offensive coordinator John DeFilippo said. “If you looked at our playbook, we probably have more formations than a lot of people because our guys have such different skill sets.”
-Mixing in some deep passes down the field to Taylor Gabriel and Travis Benjamin will be critical. Gabriel’s 17.3 yards per catch last season was tops in the AFC. And it would be hard to name a player who had a better preseason than Benjamin, who caught a touchdown pass and scored another on a punt return.
"We are going to need to find a way to create explosive pass gains,” DeFilippo said.
-20 touches – not necessarily carries – from Isaiah Crowell for at least 80 yards should be an attainable goal for the running back. After missing extensive practice time in the spring of 2014, Crowell didn’t miss a single practice this offseason and his grasp of the offense is at a completely different level in his second NFL season.
-“He’s gotten a lot more patient in the screen game,” DeFilippo said about Crowell’s improved pass-catching skills.
Browns defense strategy vs. Jets offense

-Buffalo offensive coordinator Chan Gailey is renowned for scheming up big-play wide receivers in one-on-one situations. Browns defensive coordinator Jim O’Neil is expecting Brandon Marshall to be targeted a bunch Sunday and Cleveland will have to limit him – and it may not just be Joe Haden alone.
-“A lot of our guys will have a chance to go against him so I am looking forward to that matchup,” O’Neil said. “It will let us know where we’re at at that position.”
-Cleveland isn’t going to measure its success on defense by the number of times it clobbers the quarterback, but rather how often Ryan Fitzpatrick isn’t throwing from a clean pocket. In watching film on the Jets, we’ve noticed Fitzpatrick has accuracy issues when his feet aren’t set.
-“He is a hard quarterback to sack,” O’Neil said. “But you have to affect him in more way than just sacking him.”
-Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. Cleveland had 21 interceptions in 2014, second-best in the NFL. Opportunities to pounce on Fitzpatrick might end up being slim. But for the first time since last November, the Browns will get all four starters in the secondary on the field together.
-“It is going to be the backbone of our defense,” O’Neil said.

And the Lions cut Zenner, the league leading rusher for the pre-season.