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Today is payday where I work. I am on 100% commission with a draw (for those that don't know, a draw is money "lent" to you by the company which you pay back through your commission, stay above that number and you are fine). I was looking at my check and commssion sheet because everything is so confusing. It makes it easier for them to steal your money. To give a little more back-story, the commssions are really low considering there's very little overhead and they give you $0 for an expense account. All auto mileage is out of pocket and so are client lunches, etc.
As I started the story, I got paid today and went and asked another rep how they give us our draw. I was told they do it half on the 15th and half on the last day of the month. Then it hit me, over the course of the last few months they overpaid me by $4000. I am a very honest man, I have a conscience from hell. I went into my bosses office and he said go see HR, he tries explaining the draw thing and how they pay (it's confusing as hell) - I say, "I will never get it, just tell me the difference." So, I owe them $4000. I've been sick and dizzy all day due to this, but you know what the worst part is? I could have easily kept my mouth shut and made $12k per year extra and no one would have known - they know I could've done that. The worst part is, I never heard the words "Thanks for being so honest, we appreciate it as this would have gone on as long as you work here." I want to throw up. How sick is it that they don't have the common courtesy to thank someone for being honest about such a thing? I really don't know what else to say. People are scum.
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Well, that rough soup. I guess I wouldn't have expected them to thank me knowing how most companies are. I would have thanked you, but I find I'm usually alone in these kinds of things.  My guess is, that if you worked there for very long they would have eventually found the error and it's much better it was found now and not when it was found down the road and you owed many more thousands. Will they allow you some kind of a payment plan?
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Well, that rough soup. I guess I wouldn't have expected them to thank me knowing how most companies are. I would have thanked you, but I find I'm usually alone in these kinds of things. My guess is, that if you worked there for very long they would have eventually found the error and it's much better it was found now and not when it was found down the road and you owed many more thousands.
Will they allow you some kind of a payment plan?
They would allow me one, but I refuse it - I HATE owing people money. It ticks me off that I have $80k+ left on my house. That's the only debt I have. Can't stand it. My next check will just be $4k light (don't get me wrong, that's a TON of money-- I'll be living off todays check for this month and next month due to that.)
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if it's any consolation at all ...I think you did the right thing  Money that is not youres to beginwith is all most like stealing....jmo
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I think you did the right thing. Knowingly keeping that extra money would have been stealing, and it sounds like you have a consciense (sp). You would have had a moral struggle every day at work. I find that this type of honesty always gets rewarded somehow.
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A lot of people wouldn't have been able to take that kind of a hit from their check, so you should feel good about that. You did do the right thing, if you are as honest as you say and believe in doing what is right in life, you wouldn't have been able to live with yourself. You may have some redeeming qualities after all. 
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I don't mean to be harsh, but people sometimes just don't give a hoot about you or what you think. the company probably thought you did what was expected. it really is a dog- eat -dog world. everybody's out for themselves.
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I find that this type of honesty always gets rewarded somehow.
The sad thing is, I'm beginning to think that isn't true. It's funny, I'm the nicest person you'll ever meet (believe it or not Jules, it's true!) I always try and do the right thing and treat people with the utmost respect, yet if something can go wrong for me - it will. I've recently started laughing about it because it's getting ridiculous. (play softball - get a sublexing right shoulder and dislocate the left one, get hit in the head with a ball after a bounce that would have confused Stephen Hawking because it was impossible, 2 weeks ago a liner caught me in the groin - thankfully it missed the boys. Go clean up my yard to make it nicer for me and the neighbors and I get poison ivy, after I'm done with the medicine - it starts to come back - that same day my check engine light comes on, water has destroyed walls in my house and I can't find the leak. I go to an account 45 minutes away - he desn't show up -I go to eat and then due to the blind spot I back my car into a pole and do $800 of damage. The pole is a normal light pole that has a huge sement barrier around the first 2 feet - so you can't see it in any mirror - you see the pole a- but not the bottom----- this is just SOME of what's happened the last year and a half ). A close friend of mine thinks I must have been a mass murderer in my past life because I'm so nice and bad things always happen. I've got some odd curse on me.
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I don't mean to be harsh, but people sometimes just don't give a hoot about you or what you think. the company probably thought you did what was expected. it really is a dog- eat -dog world. everybody's out for themselves.
Being in sales, I know that. Now though, it's on. Anyone there messes with me - they'll get the Dawgtalk side of me. They won't like that.
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Stay strong, trust me. Your efforts and honesty will be rewarded.
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Congrats on doing the right thing.
Money is just a thing we need to get by, and granted, if you can't pay your bills, you need more. However, as I look around at people I know, doesn't matter what they make, they spend that much. (for the most part - sure, there are some people that couldn't spend themselves poor if they tried)
Stinks for the pocketbook, but you did the right thing. I congratulate you on that, and I wish you well in the future!
And, as Jules alluded to, better to be caught now, by you, than later, by them. (at our house, the electric meter quit working "properly", i.e. didn't matter what we did, our bill kept going lower and lower, to the point of Toledo Edison calling me and asking what I was doing? How is your bill so low? I said, "well, my wife and kids are finally getting my point about shutting lights off, etc. Long story short, the meter was bad, which I knew, but when they found it, after I told them, I had a nearly $2500 electric bill - they prorated usage for the previous year, and I had to pay)
You did the right thing, even though it sucks.
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I'd bet they would have found it at some point! As for the thanks...that's todays business world. You were right to do what you did, rest in that fact! My conscious would not allow me to keep it either.  I applaud you if your employer does not!
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Think of the alternative.
You say nothing, someone looks into it and busts you.
Then it would REALLy suck.
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Think of the alternative.
You say nothing, someone looks into it and busts you.
Then it would REALLy suck.
They wouldn't have been able to bust me on anything. They signed off that the commission sheets that they were correct, I never paid attention to the checks because I didn't understand how they paid the draw. I assumed when you sign off on their accounting that (after I check the commission sheets for errors) their check will be correct. In an ironic thing, last year they made an error the WRONG way for $4,000 (I almost had a heart attack)
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Actually, yes they would have been able to bust you on that. You are also responsible for the accuracy of your checks too. It's not just their job. And they could (and would) come after you to repay what was overpaid.
Regardless, you did the correct thing in bringing it to their attention now, even if they don't acknowledge it.
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You deserve thanks. I'll thank you for being honest and maybe setting an example for someone else to do the right thing.
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How can you work some where and NOT know the pay plan?
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How can you work some where and NOT know the pay plan?
You have to be a mathematician to figure it out. I didn't (still don't) understand the draw portian. January - it's ofr all of Januaray, then the next month is for half of that month (that's where I completely get lost- it makes no sense). EVERYTHING has a different % of pay (looking at a commission sheet there are 6 columns and 16 rows each. That = 96 percentages which are different across the columns).
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