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#2021641 08/02/2023 11:56 AM
by Ballpeen
Ballpeen
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...048ef2512c4faf89f9b31d31f7fa04&ei=15

Not a good sign.

US credit rating downgraded in shock move: ‘Deterioration in standards of governance’
Story by Reuters • Yesterday 7:18 PM
MARKETS TODAY



Ratings agency Fitch on Tuesday downgraded the US government’s top credit rating to AA+ from AAA, citing an expected fiscal deterioration over the next three years as well as a high and growing general government debt burden.

The dollar ticked lower following the downgrade, which came two months after President Biden and the Republican-controlled House reached a debt ceiling agreement after months of political brinkmanship. The deal lifted the government’s $31.4 trillion debt ceiling.

“In Fitch’s view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025,” the rating agency said in a statement.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said she disagreed with Fitch’s downgrade, in a statement that called it “arbitrary and based on outdated data.”

Investors use credit ratings to assess the risk profile of companies and governments when they raise financing in the debt capital markets.
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by Ballpeen
Ballpeen
Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
The national debt is another matter and it falls on both sides of the aisle. There is good spending, and bad spending. Biden he’s done a good spend. Trump’s corporate tax cuts are killing us. Bring back the 90% top tax.

You are a good example of why a logical conversation can't take place and nothing will get done.
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by Ballpeen
Ballpeen
Originally Posted by FATE
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that the U.S. government will run trillion-dollar deficits over the next 10 years. It's been accepted as the norm by each administration. They talk about fiscal responsibility but they know they won't be there long enough to feel the real repercussions. Eventually, it's got to stop. Most Americans on both sides of the aisle agree it has to stop.

The problem is nobody wants to take the drastic measure to stop the bleeding. It would be political suicide. One side would blame the other, get elected and then start handing out free things again to act as savior.

It probably won't end until the house of cards falls. Someone could try, but it wouldn't last long once people started to see cuts in benefits and services. We take a few half ass measures, but when a major artery is about to completely sever, you need more than a few bandages.

I don't know that it is as serious as I portray in my example, but it is getting critically close. You don't just turn things around in a day. We need a serious cap on spending, and it needs to be less than we currently spend. If that doesn't do it, taxes must be increased across the board, but I don't think lack of income is the primary problem. We just spend too much money.

If you have to cut off Netflix, you cut off Netflix. The American family has to do that. If you don't, sooner or later someone cuts the money flow if you are writing checks you can't back.

If we don't have serious, honest discussions about the problem now, and ACT on them, we will see the house of cards fall apart. It's like owing money to the Mob. You can't sleep it away nor hide out for a few weeks and they forget about it.
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by Bull_Dawg
Bull_Dawg
j/c

Failing to take responsibility and absolving responsibility (especially when the person is on "our side") are a big part of many of the issues in this country/the world. Everybody wants their rights to be respected, but very few people seem to take up the corresponding responsibilities. People would rather make excuses than face hard choices/realities.
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by PitDAWG
PitDAWG
Maybe you've just chosen to sniff around spots you thought were sweet that turned out not to be. The selection process is heavily involved with the way such interactions turn out.
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