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#2022012 08/04/2023 12:07 PM
by lampdogg
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1. Same old GameDay chat. Lots of hand-wringing and white flag waving. No wonder people avoid that during the regular season.

2. York needs to calm down and not try to kick everything out of the stadium.
3. John Kelly, whom I thought should have been given more opportunities last season, looked really good last night.
4. The rookie QB was electric at times, an athlete. Nice throw on the winning TD pass.
5. I thought Felton ran hard - I’m sure he’s feeling some pressure - and even the Hall kid looked good.
6 . Tillman looked very promising, I’m liking Cedric.
7. Even though it was backups against backups, our guys on D looked to have soaked up the Jim Schwartz philosophy: be attacking, play with passion. We got some nice stops for little or no gain from our DL.
8. Dawand Jones is like, scary big.

Thoughts, people?
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#2022018 Aug 4th a 12:53 PM
by lampdogg
lampdogg
Another thing that I noticed in the game day chat this morning. As peen said, the game was a sideshow to hall of fame weekend, and the network also wanted to liven up a game that many people wouldn’t care about. I thought the Rodgers interview on the sideline was interesting and enjoyed the interviews with the inductees. Zach Thomas’s story was cool.
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#2022053 Aug 4th a 03:38 PM
by Bull_Dawg
Bull_Dawg
Originally Posted by lampdogg
1. Same old GameDay chat. Lots of hand-wringing and white flag waving. No wonder people avoid that during the regular season.

2. York needs to calm down and not try to kick everything out of the stadium.
3. John Kelly, whom I thought should have been given more opportunities last season, looked really good last night.
4. The rookie QB was electric at times, an athlete. Nice throw on the winning TD pass.
5. I thought Felton ran hard - I’m sure he’s feeling some pressure - and even the Hall kid looked good.
6 . Tillman looked very promising, I’m liking Cedric.
7. Even though it was backups against backups, our guys on D looked to have soaked up the Jim Schwartz philosophy: be attacking, play with passion. We got some nice stops for little or no gain from our DL.
8. Dawand Jones is like, scary big.

Thoughts, people?

1. The discord crowd was a pretty good time. I'm fine with that thread collecting what it does.
2. Yeah, it's almost like he's kicking so hard that it distorts the shape of the ball and it gets crazy movement. I wonder if a change in footwear that spreads the force of impact over a larger area might be helpful.
3&5. Kind of disagree here. I think the RBs "looking good" had more to do with the space they had to operate than what they were doing. Not that they were bad, but a decent jv high school player could probably have gotten positive yardage through the hole Hall had on his long run. I thought McCrary had noticeably more juice than Hall despite less success due to the accompanying blocking or lack thereof.
4. I was impressed by DTR, too. The timing and placement on that TD throw was money. Watkins was able to catch it in stride and cruise into the end zone. In the past, our QBs were more likely to throw it late/inaccurately and he'd have had to stop and/or adjust.
6. If the refs let him play physically, it looks like he'll work out. Unfortunately, I have little trust in NFL officiating being consistent.
7. We'll see how it goes. I like being attacking and showing passion, but mixing in the right element/amount of control is important. I noticed a decent number of positive comments towards Fields. I thought he was more mixed bag.
8. He is indeed a very large human. I was pleasantly surprised with his performance.

While occasionally the OL gave up pressure/penetration, I thought they did a good job overall. They were opening up lots of space.

I thought all the draft picks looked the part. Doesn't look like there will be any "instant" regret so far.

I want to see more of Diabate. No particular play stood out, he just seemed to move different (in a good way.) Need to pay more attention to him, though it can be hard to do from the broadcast version.
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#2022134 Aug 4th a 09:12 PM
by WooferDawg
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I watched a lot of DTR being a west coaster, and I saw what I saw when he was at UCLA for all those years.

Not surprised at all.

Competitive football player.

I expect for him to make the team as the backup. No way would I risk putting him on the practice squad.
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#2022094 Aug 4th a 05:55 PM
by bonefish
bonefish
They showed a clip of him playing basketball.

Amazing that 375 lbs. can get up and dunk.

He is a rookie. He was not going against first string players. I get all that.

I don't care. He played well. He showed he could man up and stick with his guy. Chris Hubbard was a backup tackle. Jones moves way better than Hubbard.

If he has a good camp and shows consistent effort. We may have gotten a steal.
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#2022300 Aug 6th a 08:00 PM
by FATE
FATE
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
the concerning thing about York, IMO, is that he misses too many of the kicks under 45 yards. That's simply not good enough
Originally Posted by bonefish
My general attitude towards kicks is like free throws in basketball.

Make the xtra points like 95% plus. Field goals in normal conditions 40 yards and under should be like xtra points.

The higher you move back and however the conditions are. You get some leeway.

I don't care how the kicker makes the team. Bring in a bunch of guys and find someone who is reliable.

We have no room for error this year. We cannot lose games because York misses 40 yarders and blows an xtra point.

That's crazy, Bone... I was reading Dawgs' post and was going to make a similar analogy.

First though, I'm really not concerned about York and think people are waaay too far over the top in being ready to toss him out the window.


York has more than enough leg, his confidence is not "shot". Yes, he needs to relax and get out of his own head.

As far as he and "free throws"... he kicks with full confidence and right within his wheelhouse at about 50 yards. 40-50 yards reminds me of Shaq shooting free throws... always trying to 'take something off' and 'aim', rather than just letting it fly. Shaq would have been better off stepping back four feet, York would be bettor off if he were blindfolded and had no idea the distance. He will figure it out. Every missed FG in the preseason gets a fist pump from me anyway.

Furthermore, this FO is done with Russian Roulette at K. If this dude folds in the playoffs and costs us a 'berth' game; they will breakout the checkbook and have a proven kicker as the highest paid in NFL history next year.
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#2022291 Aug 6th a 07:04 PM
by GMdawg
GMdawg
Phil Dawson Rookie year he was 8 or 12 on Field goals with a long of 49 yards, and 23 of 24 on extra points.
Cade York rookie year he was 24 of 32 on field goals with a long of 58 yards and 35 of 37 on extra points. He was also better on kickoffs. A few of his misses were also blocked kicks which were not his fault.


Now does anybody have a problem with York if he continues to put up better numbers than Dawson did??? I mean a lot of guys are ripping him already for having a better rookie season that Dawson.
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