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#2094666 11/30/2024 10:43 PM
by RememberMuni
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Well, Detroit has John Dorsey and his Freddie Kitchens-Clone, Dan Campbell at 10-1 and headed to the Superbowl. Meanwhile, we’ve got our 3 Ivy League d-bags and are at 3-8.
Denver 42- Ivy League jerks 10.
Fun times.
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#2094861 Dec 2nd a 08:16 PM
by YTownBrownsFan
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Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by leadtheway
Originally Posted by oobernoober
So Dorsey is God's gift to talent eval, but he he's nothing more than a consultant.

He went to Detroit and was so integral to what they're building that... they went out and hired someone else for the main job a couple years later.



I also miss his drafting, but he made it clear on his exit that him staying here was all-or-nothing, and his time here was an unmitigated disaster.
bahashahaa.. yeah disaster.. look at the roster he left and what we have now.,.. i'll wait..

meanwhile
https://www.detroitlions.com/team/front-office-roster/john-dorsey
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I take Dorsey over this FO every single time.. this staff has been an abortion.. not a single playmaker in 5 years

Browns were 13-18-1 when Dorsey was here.

Browns are 38-36 under AB/KS. That winning percentage of just over .500 is better than anything we've had since Schottenheimer (which is pathetic, but that's not the point). The point is the overall results have been significantly better after moving to the current regime. As I mentioned before, I also miss his drafting... if it were possible to just have his drafting and none of the other baggage then that would be perfect, but he made it clear during his exit that that wasn't possible.

Comparing overall win/loss ignores a lot of context (Dorsey took over a stripped-down roster while AB inherited an extremely talented Oline as well as other talent). But it also ignores all the extra nonsense that was going on (the OBJ saga that he brought here, Olivier Vernon, Kitchens).

In fairness, in the 3 seasons before Dorsey, the Browns were a combined 4-44. Turning that around was nothing less than a miracle.
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