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Posted By: superbowldogg AOC + Others arrested - 07/19/22 10:42 PM


Posted By: EveDawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 10:45 PM
Throw her ass in jail lol
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 11:03 PM
I've yet to see what she was actually arrested for. Is there an update on the charge?
Posted By: EveDawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 11:04 PM
No they look like fools.

They are protesting in the street instead of doing their job of making the laws. They could introduce a women's rights bill or ammend the constitution. But no, they rather get arrested. What a bunch of idiots.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 11:06 PM
Originally Posted by FrankZ
I've yet to see what she was actually arrested for. Is there an update on the charge?

Protesting for abortion rights and blocking traffic in front of the Extreme Court.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 11:06 PM
Originally Posted by FrankZ
I've yet to see what she was actually arrested for. Is there an update on the charge?

I think it was that they were blocking traffic.
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 11:07 PM
I ask looking for facts, thank you for tossing in your special spin.
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 11:08 PM
Thank you
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 11:23 PM
Originally Posted by FrankZ
I ask looking for facts, thank you for tossing in your special spin.
You got the facts.
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 11:27 PM
Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
Originally Posted by FrankZ
I ask looking for facts, thank you for tossing in your special spin.
You got the facts.

Where's the Extreme court again?
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 11:50 PM
Just a sham/scam to get votes. Now those people get to say "I got arrested for protesting X". Fake as all get out. Fake, scripted, and "news footage".

Pathetic, really.
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/19/22 11:53 PM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Just a sham/scam to get votes. Now those people get to say "I got arrested for protesting X". Fake as all get out. Fake, scripted, and "news footage".

Pathetic, really.

Wait.. politicians doing something fake? You don't say! Not even possible. wink
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 02:12 AM
Publicity stunt.
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 02:34 AM
Good for AOC. At least her protest is based in reality and not a dumbass lie by a game show host.

We all know SBD would never have the courage to protest anything, just whine about the people doing the protesting.
Posted By: jaybird Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 02:53 AM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Just a sham/scam to get votes. Now those people get to say "I got arrested for protesting X". Fake as all get out. Fake, scripted, and "news footage".

Pathetic, really.


Really loved the part where she held her arms behind her like she was cuffed to make a better photo...
Posted By: EveDawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 03:09 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/aoc-sits-in-invisible-police-car-awaiting-transport-to-invisible-jail


lol
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 03:44 AM
Originally Posted by Swish
We all know SBD would never have the courage to protest anything, just whine about the people doing the protesting.

LOL... I love the way you attack someone's character and attempt to put them down when they didn't even post any words.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 12:17 PM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
Throw her ass in jail lol

Sure, she's out there fighting for a womans right to choose, so throw her ass in jail...But hell, Trump tried to over throw a Legit election and we should just forget about it....
Posted By: jfanent Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 12:19 PM
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by EveDawg
Throw her ass in jail lol

Sure, she's out there fighting for a womans right to choose, so throw her ass in jail...But hell, Trump tried to over throw a Legit election and we should just forget about it....

What about Trump, Trump Trump Trump Trump!
Posted By: Damanshot Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 12:20 PM
Originally Posted by jfanent
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by EveDawg
Throw her ass in jail lol

Sure, she's out there fighting for a womans right to choose, so throw her ass in jail...But hell, Trump tried to over throw a Legit election and we should just forget about it....

What about Trump, Trump Trump Trump Trump!

Exactly,, He needs to go down for his actions,,, And I won't stop harping on it until he does.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 12:22 PM
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by jfanent
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by EveDawg
Throw her ass in jail lol

Sure, she's out there fighting for a womans right to choose, so throw her ass in jail...But hell, Trump tried to over throw a Legit election and we should just forget about it....

What about Trump, Trump Trump Trump Trump!

Exactly,, He needs to go down for his actions,,, And I won't stop harping on it until he does.


https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthre...6th-insurrection-fallout-pt5#Post1953397
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 12:54 PM
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
Originally Posted by Swish
We all know SBD would never have the courage to protest anything, just whine about the people doing the protesting.

LOL... I love the way you attack someone's character and attempt to put them down when they didn't even post any words.


With you it’s easy.
Posted By: FATE Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 01:32 PM
Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Just a sham/scam to get votes. Now those people get to say "I got arrested for protesting X". Fake as all get out. Fake, scripted, and "news footage".

Pathetic, really.


Really loved the part where she held her arms behind her like she was cuffed to make a better photo...

She's soooo courageous!
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 01:40 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Just a sham/scam to get votes. Now those people get to say "I got arrested for protesting X". Fake as all get out. Fake, scripted, and "news footage".

Pathetic, really.


Really loved the part where she held her arms behind her like she was cuffed to make a better photo...

She's soooo courageous!

wasn't your girl wearing a crazy ass jacket while yelling at the president during the SOTU with another crazy from georgia?

i know you were proud of her. good luck to funding her new restaurant after the other one got shut down.
Posted By: FATE Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by Swish
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Just a sham/scam to get votes. Now those people get to say "I got arrested for protesting X". Fake as all get out. Fake, scripted, and "news footage".

Pathetic, really.


Really loved the part where she held her arms behind her like she was cuffed to make a better photo...

She's soooo courageous!

wasn't your girl wearing a crazy ass jacket while yelling at the president during the SOTU with another crazy from georgia?

i know you were proud of her. good luck to funding her new restaurant after the other one got shut down.


[Linked Image from pics.me.me]
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 02:23 PM
what do you mean? i've already stated my opinion on this situation.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 03:21 PM
j/c

I'm reading the same BS now from the right as they were saying about people and politicians during the civil rights movement. Some things never change and they think trotting out the same old lines they used during the 60's to prevent another group of people from getting their rights still works. Whether it was black rights then or women's rights now, attacking the people that are fighting for them isn't attractive.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by Swish
Good for AOC. At least her protest is based in reality and not a dumbass lie by a game show host.

We all know SBD would never have the courage to protest anything, just whine about the people doing the protesting.

It's theatre, and since she's one of the very few people in a position to advance legislation to take this debate out of SC's hands I would think it'd be disappointing that she's spending her time trolling for clicks/pics.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 03:54 PM
We both know nothing like that would ever pass the senate. So aren't you just advocating one form of theatre over another?
Posted By: oobernoober Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:03 PM
I'm advocating for her to do the job she got voted in for. I get that that's less and less the practice of her colleagues, but maybe if she's going to send a message then it should be that.

If that's the method she believes is the best way for her to advance her legislation then her seat is probably a waste. It reeks of the "my vote doesn't count" shtick and I think it should be called out whenever it happens.
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by Swish
Good for AOC. At least her protest is based in reality and not a dumbass lie by a game show host.

We all know SBD would never have the courage to protest anything, just whine about the people doing the protesting.

It's theatre, and since she's one of the very few people in a position to advance legislation to take this debate out of SC's hands I would think it'd be disappointing that she's spending her time trolling for clicks/pics.

they already voted for this in the house. are you not paying attention?

the only way you make this comment is if you're not paying attention.

and since i know you're not paying attention:

https://reproductiverights.org/u-s-house-again-passes-bill-to-protect-abortion-rights/

they've passed this twice already. yea, i'd be out protesting too. they pass these bills only to die in the senate. she's doing her job.

but again, you'd know that if you were paying attention, which you aren't.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:22 PM
She has the badge access to get in front of the people holding this up. She's one of the few people that actually have the capability to push this through. Much moreso than a rando standing in front of a federal building.

I'll re-phrase... if she thinks this is the best use of her time to advance that agenda then it must be a lost cause.
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:27 PM
so she has the ability as a house rep to change the minds of the republicans, who hold 50 seats in the senate?

the same AOC that gets regularly trashed by said senate republicans and their voters? the same republicans who would never agree with AOC because they would lose their jobs due to ticking off their voters?

is that what we're going with here?
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:33 PM
She has the ability to get on the phone with more moderate senators and try to work deals.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:39 PM
I'm a firm believer in non violent civil protests and will not consider elected officials as having any less rights to do so.

People of influence and power had a major impact in the civil rights movement. Some gave their lives. Some went to jail. John Lewis called it "Good Trouble".

Maybe it is nefarious in some way. But let me tell you what it also accomplished. Those members of congress that were arrested certainly brought attention to the protest. And that's what people in power have been doing since the 1960's. Maybe it's just that I'm old enough to remember those times. Maybe it's that I've witnessed throughout time that if powerful people don't join in protests and stand up in that way much of these protests would never even be recognized. Maybe it's that since I saw how successful such things were during the civil rights movement I can see how it could also be very helpful now.

My question to you is can't she do both? Because the fact of the matter is she has helped do both....

House passes bills to protect abortion rights, measures doomed in Senate

One of the bills could codify the right to abortion and the other would ban punishing those who travel out of state for reproductive health care, but Republicans in the Senate oppose the measures.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ls-supreme-courts-reversal-roe-rcna38369
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by FrankZ
She has the ability to get on the phone with more moderate senators and try to work deals.

Are you saying she hasn't?
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by FrankZ
She has the ability to get on the phone with more moderate senators and try to work deals.

and this post proves you and oob haven't been paying attention to much of anything.

she is a house rep who helped pass abortion rights protection TWICE in the house. one thing you two haven't explained is why republicans in the senate would need an explanation - or bother listening - about the importance of abortion protection in this country.

it's freaking hilarious how young women has to explain to a bunch of old people why rights are important. it's even funnier watching two conservatives argue that the old, more experienced republicans in the senate need guidance from a young women in the house because they're too stupid to know why.

guys, let's say this out loud here: oob and frank believes that it's AOC's responsibility to not just do her job in the house, but also do the job of the senate, as well. despite not being a senator, and not being a republican who lives in states actively opposed to abortion rights.

only people who haven't been paying attention would believe in such nonsense.
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by FrankZ
She has the ability to get on the phone with more moderate senators and try to work deals.

Are you saying she hasn't?

bro they want her to be the house rep, senator, president, and religious leader all at once because they can't imagine life without blaming AOC for everything.
Posted By: FATE Re: AOC + Others arrested - 07/20/22 04:41 PM
j/c...

AOC is famous for being a professional victim. Plain and simple. When she's not telling us how she's been victimized, she's pointing out other victims. Her biggest claim to fame is encouraging others to feel victimized who didn't even know they were victims... teaching others to peel back the layers of normal life and get to the root of what's not fair to them... unless, of course, they are white.

Her schtick is old. And now that people can see through it, and don't jump up in applause with crocodile tears in their eyes, she hates her job.

This latest incarnation of foolishness has her acting like she's handcuffed after being arrested. It's a joke, but no longer surprising in the eyes of most.

Poor, poor victim. Go make another Tik-tok about how you've been "accosted" again.
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by FrankZ
She has the ability to get on the phone with more moderate senators and try to work deals.

Are you saying she hasn't?

Did I say that? Or did I respond to a different idea?

Are you saying she has?
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:46 PM
Originally Posted by Swish
Originally Posted by FrankZ
She has the ability to get on the phone with more moderate senators and try to work deals.

and this post proves you and oob haven't been paying attention to much of anything.

she is a house rep who helped pass abortion rights protection TWICE in the house. one thing you two haven't explained is why republicans in the senate would need an explanation - or bother listening - about the importance of abortion protection in this country.

it's freaking hilarious how young women has to explain to a bunch of old people why rights are important. it's even funnier watching two conservatives argue that the old, more experienced republicans in the senate need guidance from a young women in the house because they're too stupid to know why.

guys, let's say this out loud here: oob and frank believes that it's AOC's responsibility to not just do her job in the house, but also do the job of the senate, as well. despite not being a senator, and not being a republican who lives in states actively opposed to abortion rights.

only people who haven't been paying attention would believe in such nonsense.

Again you try to tell me what I don't know or what I believe.

I don't know what she has tried, or hasn't tried. I don't know what she has done or hasn't done, especially when you consider a lot of what happens occurs behind closed doors. I do know that getting fake arrested is nothing but publicity for another run at office, it isn't doing anything of import.

So if used to be there was a lot more compromise. Now everyone, both sides, is all "MINE MINE MINE" like a bunch of two year olds. It happens with all the politicians in DC, not one just one side. Most people only want to acknowledge that the people they don't agree with act like children, and far too many here seem to think I am some sort of Republican. I don't like any of them. They are mostly selfish idiots that can be useful at times. So maybe try to step back bro, and quit telling people what their view point is when you are only using your viewpoint to decide.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:52 PM
You do realize it was 15 members of congress, right? I'm not sure why it seems that AOC has become the target considering she's 1 out of 15. I guess it's kind of like when anyone mentions socialism all they do is point at Venezuela.

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Did I say that? Or did I respond to a different idea?

Are you saying she has?

To claim it wasn't a direct insinuation by you is disingenuous at best. I'm not the one who just threw crap at the wall to see if it would stick here.
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
You do realize it was 15 members of congress, right? I'm not sure why it seems that AOC has become the target considering she's 1 out of 15. I guess it's kind of like when anyone mentions socialism all they do is point at Venezuela.

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Did I say that? Or did I respond to a different idea?

Are you saying she has?

To claim it wasn't a direct insinuation by you is disingenuous at best. I'm not the one who just threw crap at the wall to see if it would stick here.


To claim you will make stuff up to have an argument is pretty straightforward.

You are the one that likes to insinuate things, without the intestinal fortitude to say them like a man. Go get yerself some help.
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 05:03 PM
you're the one implying that she didn't try to reach out. i didn't imply she did or didn't. but she DID do her job.

you put that out there, so you're already telling me what you believe. so don't get mad when i describe what you believe lol

and silly me, i didn't know we were supposed to compromise with regards to our RIGHTS. you're certainly not making that argument in the mass shooting thread dealing with the 2a.

but thats what happens to those who are intellectually dishonest with themselves...
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 05:12 PM
Yeah arresting women fighting for their rights y’all enjoyed taking away. Good for you. Enjoy your deplorable selves.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 05:16 PM
And someone could pull the bar stool out from under ya. And we’d laugh.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by FrankZ
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
You do realize it was 15 members of congress, right? I'm not sure why it seems that AOC has become the target considering she's 1 out of 15. I guess it's kind of like when anyone mentions socialism all they do is point at Venezuela.

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Did I say that? Or did I respond to a different idea?

Are you saying she has?

To claim it wasn't a direct insinuation by you is disingenuous at best. I'm not the one who just threw crap at the wall to see if it would stick here.


To claim you will make stuff up to have an argument is pretty straightforward.

You are the one that likes to insinuate things, without the intestinal fortitude to say them like a man. Go get yerself some help.

Once again you deflect away from the question at hand because you have no answer. And you know it. Then claim it's someone else who needs help. Sad, sad little man you are.
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by Swish
you're the one implying that she didn't try to reach out. i didn't imply she did or didn't. but she DID do her job.

you put that out there, so you're already telling me what you believe. so don't get mad when i describe what you believe lol

and silly me, i didn't know we were supposed to compromise with regards to our RIGHTS. you're certainly not making that argument in the mass shooting thread dealing with the 2a.

but thats what happens to those who are intellectually dishonest with themselves...

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so she has the ability as a house rep to change the minds of the republicans, who hold 50 seats in the senate?

All I said was she had the ability to make phone calls. I did not imply if she did or didn't. Don't read too much into a simple sentence.
Posted By: FrankZ Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
Yeah arresting women fighting for their rights y’all enjoyed taking away. Good for you. Enjoy your deplorable selves.

She was only fake arrested i.e. moved out of the street.
Posted By: mgh888 Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by FrankZ
Originally Posted by Swish
you're the one implying that she didn't try to reach out. i didn't imply she did or didn't. but she DID do her job.

you put that out there, so you're already telling me what you believe. so don't get mad when i describe what you believe lol

and silly me, i didn't know we were supposed to compromise with regards to our RIGHTS. you're certainly not making that argument in the mass shooting thread dealing with the 2a.

but thats what happens to those who are intellectually dishonest with themselves...

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so she has the ability as a house rep to change the minds of the republicans, who hold 50 seats in the senate?

All I said was she had the ability to make phone calls. I did not imply if she did or didn't. Don't read too much into a simple sentence.

You seem to be implying you wrote something of no substance or value and that it should be ignored ? If that's not what you meant can you explain because that's my take away based on what I read at the moment.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 06:03 PM
He thinks everyone who reads what he posts must be stupid and tries to circumvent what he posted by playing denial. He makes insinuations then pretends he didn't. Watch, he'll deny it again.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 06:06 PM
I don't have a problem with her protesting. I think it is goofy, but she has that right.

She and the others don't have to right to block traffic and infringe on the rights of others to drive down the road. Cuff them, book them, then set a court date.
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I don't have a problem with her protesting. I think it is goofy, but she has that right.

She and the others don't have to right to block traffic and infringe on the rights of others to drive down the road. Cuff them, book them, then set a court date.

driving isn't a right, it's a privilege, remember?
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 06:13 PM
Originally Posted by Swish
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I don't have a problem with her protesting. I think it is goofy, but she has that right.

She and the others don't have to right to block traffic and infringe on the rights of others to drive down the road. Cuff them, book them, then set a court date.

driving isn't a right, it's a privilege, remember?

Right. But once the privilege has been granted by meeting all of the requirements and you are licensed to drive, you have a right to drive on the roadways. People don't have the right to stand in said roadways and block traffic.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
And someone could pull the bar stool out from under ya. And we’d laugh.

Typical personal attack generated by the left.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 06:50 PM
Originally Posted by Swish
so she has the ability as a house rep to change the minds of the republicans, who hold 50 seats in the senate?

If the choice is to stand in front of them as a colleague, or staged theatrics outside the SC... I think it's obvious which has the better chance of success.

Or... start hitting them where it actually hurts (voters and campaign $$$). AOC has a platform unlike many of her colleagues....
Posted By: GMdawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 06:57 PM
Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
Yeah arresting women fighting for their rights y’all enjoyed taking away. Good for you. Enjoy your deplorable selves.

Where were you when mens rights were taken away??? Woman gets preggers not by her damn self. The man wants the baby and wants to raise it with her/ or without her. You prefer to just tell the man to shut the hell up and watch His baby get slaughtered. You and many others keep screaming about woman's rights. Yet you ignore mens rights 110 percent.
Posted By: Jester Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by oobernoober
If the choice is to stand in front of them as a colleague, or staged theatrics outside the SC... I think it's obvious which has the better chance of success.
Or... start hitting them where it actually hurts (voters and campaign $$$).



Do you really believe any republican senator will listen to AOC? Change their vote because she spoke to them? By these "theatrics" going after their voters and campaign money is exactly what she is trying to do.

So to answer your question, these "theatrics" have a much better chance of influencing the senate than her going and talking to them face to face because in that scenario all the republican senators will do is roll their eyes.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 07:18 PM
While I don't dismiss your point, it seems some also ignore dead beat dads. My daughter went through that for over a decade. It's certainly a balancing act to be sure. As of the 2018 census only 44% were receiving all of their child support. Approximately 66% received some child support.

So I guess if a father is willing to sign that he will take full custody of an unborn child upon birth it should be up for discussion. But it still begs to question since the father takes on none of the burden and health risks involved in pregnancy or giving birth.
Posted By: FATE Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 07:31 PM
Originally Posted by Jester
Originally Posted by oobernoober
If the choice is to stand in front of them as a colleague, or staged theatrics outside the SC... I think it's obvious which has the better chance of success.
Or... start hitting them where it actually hurts (voters and campaign $$$).



Do you really believe any republican senator will listen to AOC?

In most cases, no. Her reputation proceeds her. But then again... that's probably all their fault, I'm sure she bears no responsibility.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 07:35 PM
Anyone can protest and shut down a street. Not everyone has a badge to get into said buildings where lawmakers work, much less have the ability to call them an equal. Saying the best way to get laws passed is to get up out of the seat you were elected to and pretend to be in handcuffs when you're not is essentially punting the responsibilities and privileges her election got her.

I am well aware of who the blame lies with here. Abortion is one of those topics where everyone is so dug in that no actual resolution seems possible. Maybe it is pointless and the only thing she can get out of the fight for abortion rights is some publicity. I refuse to believe that and it's really disheartening to see someone who actually has the tools to make a difference waste time/effort like this.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 07:35 PM
And therein lies the problem. The inciteful rhetoric that comes from both sides make it nearly impossible for either side having any willingness to listen to the other side.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
While I don't dismiss your point, it seems some also ignore dead beat dads. My daughter went through that for over a decade. It's certainly a balancing act to be sure. As of the 2018 census only 44% were receiving all of their child support. Approximately 66% received some child support.

So I guess if a father is willing to sign that he will take full custody of an unborn child upon birth it should be up for discussion. But it still begs to question since the father takes on none of the burden and health risks involved in pregnancy or giving birth.

Maybe if the courts would allow the father to take the full burden then more kids would not be murdered in the womb. However nobody ever stands up for the mans right around here except for me.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 07:56 PM
As remote as it is, it's more likely than them being swayed by her getting fake arrested.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 07:59 PM
I don't think you would see as many men stand up and take on such a responsibility as you think you would. They talk a good game and want to control the decision of women, but when it's time to put their feet to the fire, getting burned doesn't seem nearly as attractive to them. I know when I was a young man, yes, back in the stone ages, it was far more often that the boys/boyfriends were trying to get their girls to get the abortion, not the other way around.
Posted By: FATE Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
And therein lies the problem. The inciteful rhetoric that comes from both sides make it nearly impossible for either side having any willingness to listen to the other side.
This 100.

And they really do believe "theater" is more effective. That's on us...
Posted By: GMdawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 08:28 PM
I am just going off of my friends who are men. I can't speak for every man, although so many posters around here think they can. If they can't stand up for their own children then I want nothing to do with them in everyday life. They don't want to control womans lives, but they won't back down and watch their own child be murdered. We are close to the same age bro, and back in the day I punched several guys in the face for having and suggesting their girlfriends/ or in most cases one night stands abort the baby. I have felt and acted this was since 1973.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 10:29 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
While I don't dismiss your point, it seems some also ignore dead beat dads. My daughter went through that for over a decade. It's certainly a balancing act to be sure. As of the 2018 census only 44% were receiving all of their child support. Approximately 66% received some child support.

So I guess if a father is willing to sign that he will take full custody of an unborn child upon birth it should be up for discussion. But it still begs to question since the father takes on none of the burden and health risks involved in pregnancy or giving birth.

Maybe if the courts would allow the father to take the full burden then more kids would not be murdered in the womb. However nobody ever stands up for the mans right around here except for me.

I have, but maybe in other ways. The vast majority of abortions are done because the woman doesn't want the baby. Maybe because she doesn't want kids, she can't afford a child, isn't emotionally ready...whatever.

Men should be given the chance to abort their responsibilities for the same reasons. They might not be able to abort the child, but if things were equal, they should be able to legally sign away their responsibilities because they may not be emotionally ready, can't afford it, or just don't want a kid.

If women have that option, men should too.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 10:36 PM
Sorry, can't agree w/that one. If a man gets a woman pregnant, he should be man enough to support the child. No one made him have sex. No one demanded he not use a condom.

The lack of accountability by too many selfish folks is a drain on our society.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Just a sham/scam to get votes. Now those people get to say "I got arrested for protesting X". Fake as all get out. Fake, scripted, and "news footage".

Pathetic, really.


Really loved the part where she held her arms behind her like she was cuffed to make a better photo...

She's soooo courageous!

She is courageous,, She at last stands up for PEOPLE.... You guys stand up for a criminal
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 11:23 PM
I'm just going to say this: I'm glad I talked my at the time girlfriend out of having an abortion. Shoot, I even married her. That ended bad, just 3 years later. She was pregnant with some one else's kid.

My son is glad I didn't 'allow' an abortion as well.

I paid child support for about 9 years. It had to be mailed, or dropped off at the Courthouse. Good move, really. That way my ex couldn't call me and gripe about not getting it. Although, she did.

At 12, son wanted to move in with my and my wife. He did, legally. Ex didn't pay child support, ironically. Maybe here and there, but her excuse was "I don't have the money." (yeah, and you take money out of my sons savings account so he can 'buy presents' for others????)

Oh, when I finally got a hold of the county agency, told them how much she was in arrears, gave them the paper work showing custody, etc..... They said "we'll take care of it." Garnished her wages. My son, another son (glad she didn't abort him) and after her last divorce, 3 other sons. She had to pay for only MY son. $50 a week. Yeah, when she was about $6000 down, that's when I contacted the county.

Son was a nurse, now he's a Family NP. His brother is a traveling nurse - but doesn't leave Columbus. The other 3?

Those 2 are great friends, live close to each other, hang out all the time. Son's mom? On her 3rd marriage hit what she wanted - someone with money.

I get along just great with all 4 of my son's 'brothers', but especially the one closest in age to my son. Nothing was his fault - he got born. Good dude, good wife, good job.
Posted By: FATE Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 11:30 PM
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Just a sham/scam to get votes. Now those people get to say "I got arrested for protesting X". Fake as all get out. Fake, scripted, and "news footage".

Pathetic, really.


Really loved the part where she held her arms behind her like she was cuffed to make a better photo...

She's soooo courageous!

She is courageous,, She at last stands up for PEOPLE.... You guys stand up for a criminal

Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump... Whatabout, whatabout, Trump-Trump-Trump-Trump.
Posted By: Swish Re: AOC arrested - 07/20/22 11:47 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

i'm sure that's exactly what's chanted in...champion, ohio.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: AOC arrested - 07/21/22 11:56 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Just a sham/scam to get votes. Now those people get to say "I got arrested for protesting X". Fake as all get out. Fake, scripted, and "news footage".

Pathetic, really.


Really loved the part where she held her arms behind her like she was cuffed to make a better photo...

She's soooo courageous!

She is courageous,, She at last stands up for PEOPLE.... You guys stand up for a criminal

Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump... Whatabout, whatabout, Trump-Trump-Trump-Trump.

It's encouraging that you know who the Criminal is.. That's good news.. Maybe your starting to get enlightened...
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: AOC arrested - 07/21/22 12:43 PM
Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
Sorry, can't agree w/that one. If a man gets a woman pregnant, he should be man enough to support the child. No one made him have sex. No one demanded he not use a condom.

The lack of accountability by too many selfish folks is a drain on our society.

No one made the woman have sex.

If the woman doesn't want the child, she can chuck it in the can. The guy has to take it, wanted or not. Equal rights are equal rights. Right?

For the record I am not saying this because I agree with what I said. I am just pointing out from a equal rights basis how flawed this idea is about it being a womans rights issue. If a woman is granted the right to absolve her responsibility for whatever reason she decides, a man should have the same rights.

This recent SC ruling may leave it up to the states to decide, but it really doesn't nothing to remedy this inequity. A man should have some self determination over this issue as well. If we are going to tell men to "man up", we should tell women to "women up".

I agree totally with your comment about accountability assuming you are including all members of society.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: AOC arrested - 07/21/22 01:45 PM
But the whole process (after conception) is at its core, unfair. Men don't have to carry the child, and all that is involved in that. Men don't have to birth the child, and all that is involved with that including the recovery as well as the decision of how the child will be fed.

It's my belief that this inherent unfairness has sorta been used to let men off the hook. That should be fixed but I don't think we're ever going to get to a point where things are "equal".
Posted By: Dawg Duty Re: AOC arrested - 07/21/22 03:37 PM
Did this farce change anybody's mind from pro life to pro choice? What did this little twit accomplish besides holding up trafic?
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: AOC arrested - 07/21/22 04:01 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
We are close to the same age bro, and back in the day I punched several guys in the face for having and suggesting their girlfriends/ or in most cases one night stands abort the baby. I have felt and acted this was since 1973.

I never considered assaulting someone as a resolution or practical way of dealing with the situation.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: AOC arrested - 07/21/22 05:07 PM
peen, I think both men and women should be held accountable. However, my point is that all too often, dudes run around like alley cats, get a woman pregnant, and then tell her to get an abortion because they don't want to support the kid. That's BS!!!
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