Interesting:

We need age limits for all politicians...

No comparison.

Comparison?

Pretty obvious that neither guy should be president.

Maybe instead of a debate they should take a test and see who scores the highest on a valid cognitive test.

Although trump has way more to worry about. Hopefully we see first hand how he holds up under cross examination.

History already has ranked him as the worst president in US history. His issues go way beyond his cognitive decline.

I think Trump should be President.


History as written by you. History needs time to tell what was good and what wasn't. Stop being a historian or reading those who think they are.

Well, 2024 is young, but here ya go... six minutes of wtf from the first two months...

As I have been screaming. Neither side has a candidate worth voting for. Our country is supose to be so great, yet all we can come up with is Biden and Trump. Talk about making us Americans all look stupid.

trump is a criminal and a traitor.

He led an insurrection on Jan 6th against the US. He tried to remain in power when he was voted out.

He violated an oath to the Constitution.

Those are the facts.

He has committed crimes and will be tried for his crimes. If there is justice he will be sent to prison for the rest of his life.

You think a guy that tried to over throw an election should be President?
You think a guy that kisses Putins Ass should be President?
You think a guy who's son in law took $2 Billion from SA should be President?
You think a guy that signed a tax reduction for the wealthy and then sent the USA into a tailspins with Debt should be President?
You think a guy that spawned hatred in America should be President?

I could go on but it's wasted on you!

I do not agree with your total comment. Trump will be found to be a criminal.. In fact, he already has. Republicans in the house trying to impeach Biden will end up with egg on their faces. Look at the current economy. the only negative is that inflation is still too high. Getting better, but still too high. The Biden admin has done a pretty damn good job with it. Not perfect (who is) but better that Trump. The only real problem with Biden is that he's just too damn old. But he knows his wifes name.....

Jobs increase have been amazing under Biden. Infrastructure improvements are under way in a BIG way under Biden. The Chips act has and will continue to add jobs to the economy.

So is Biden Perfect... Hell no. Is he better than Trump, you bet he is.

Yep, This thread is definitely showing some cognitive decline.

Why can't people just step up to the plate and admit both parties failed us and neither man should actually be president. It isn't that hard to do. The only real difference is one tried to overthrow the election to stay in power. A lot of us think the constitution matters.

This is a clear indication of it.

I do often ponder the age of a lot of our political leaders, along with the age of our two presidential candidates and wonder: Why the future of myself and my kids is being governed by people who are already over the average age of death in the United States who have very poor approval ratings and an even worse history of performance?

Only in American politics would this make sense. Even more so, only in American politics would this make sense where one can often find inaccurate, irrational exuberance over any of the candidates being offered.

Former President Donald Trump on Saturday again confused President Joe Biden with former President Barack Obama after attempting to defend his verbal slipups on the campaign trail and claiming they were intentional.

“And [Russian President Vladimir] Putin, you know, has so little respect for Obama that he’s starting to throw around the 'nuclear' word. You heard that, nuclear. He’s starting to talk nuclear weapons today. I was waiting for that to happen. But we have a fool, a fool as a president,” Trump said at a campaign rally in Richmond, Virginia.

Earlier in his speech, Trump attempted to defend the other times he has mixed up Biden and Obama in campaign speeches by claiming he had done so intentionally. Democrats have been seizing on Trump’s verbal slipups as Biden faces questions about his mental acuity.

“Every time I do that, or I’ll say our president, Barack Hussein Obama -- now, I do that because, you know, that makes a point. We understand that, right, because a lot of people say he’s running the country. I don’t personally think so,” Trump said.

Trump again claimed him confusing former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and GOP presidential rival Nikki Haley was on purpose.

“I purposefully mix up like a name like Birdbrain — you know who Birdbrain is, right? Nikki — with Nancy Pelosi. I put them in because they’re interchangeable in my mind,” Trump said.

Trump focused much of his second campaign speech of the day on Biden, the US-Mexico border and his legal issues and made only brief mention of Haley, his final primary rival. He gave a very similar speech earlier in the day in Greensboro, North Carolina.

Trump also touted Argentina’s far-right president, Javier Milei, during his speech.

“Even Argentina, they went MAGA. ... I love him because he loves Trump. When he called, I took his call. Anybody that loves me, I like them,” he said.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-n...02-24/h_935142bb0b71c0adf79add0b34263aef

"I try to make it sound like I've lost my mind on purpose!"

What blows my mind is, had Gartner switched the names around, it would have made more sense.

I love how he pooh pooh's away anything about Biden.

Also, he's been going after Trump and his cognizance since before 2017.

Anyone that says Biden is fine from a mental standpoint has little credibility.

Which is equally true of trump.

NOBODY is buying this narrative that Trump and Biden are in the same galaxy in a cognitive sense.

Biden completes three sentences per month. Every time he's on any 'stage' is an unmitigated disaster. And that's for someone that's in full hiding, picks his own audience, and has cue cards to recite his own name.

Y'all can keep saying it, nobody is believing it.

I can't not comment- you said you think Trump should be President---so an abuser of women- a [censored] grabbing, adulterer, married three times, a business fraud convicted of multiple crimes- lying about sq ft of properties, lying about providing education to students- Trump University, idiot who's stated should pump disinfection into body to kill covid, idiot who actually thinks F-35s are invisible- you can't see them, idiot who stated Washington had to protect the airports during the Revolutionary War, nuke hurricanes, the guy who was president but thinks all military men are suckers because what's in it for them......he's the one you want as president- name a president who has hawked action figures, bobbing headed figurines, steaks, sneakers, water, booze, perfume---the billionaire who steals from the average joes to pay his legal bills---you think he should be President. He is the LAST Person on Earth who should be President---he wants the constitution changed for his purposes and wants to be dictator for a day-----WOW. You've drunk the MAGA Kool-Aid and your lost.

This is still America and being better than a steaming pile of fresh dog crap is not a reason to vote for somebody.

If your choices are between Trump and Biden, yeah, it's a reason to vote for Biden. We can't risk another 4 years of Trump.

But at least you know that Trump is a Fresh Pile of Dog Crap.

How anyone cannot see trump for what he is defies the imagination.

January 6th was one of the darkest days in American history. It was on tv for all to see. He refused to do anything to stop the violence while the Halls of Congress were attacked by his followers and people were assaulted and killed. His VP had to hide to be protected from assault or possible death.

trump took an oath to defend the Constitution. He is the only president who refused to accept the peaceful transfer of power to the incoming president.

He is on tape telling an elected official to find the votes to overturn the election he lost.

He tried to overthrow an election by conspiring with others in a fake elector scheme.

He was a convicted of sexual assault and fraud.

And there are those on this Board who support him. How does someone look in the mirror and rationalize that?

It is this easy. Satan himself is better than any and all Democrats!!! At least we know how evil he is. He does not hide that like Dems do. During elections Dems say they are in the middle then when elected go as far left as possible then try to say that is mainstream. They hate the pledge of allegence, they hate the flag, they hate the National Anthem. But want us to think they love the country.

What a distorted and disturbing way to look at politics.

The government is based upon "We the people."

Supporting a party over what is for the good of the people is sad.

It never should never be about democrats and republicans. It should be about the person and what can be done for the good of all.

Biden is far from perfect. But he is not a career criminal like trump who only wants to be a dictator and destroy what this country was founded upon.

Dein Kampf?

Pretty sure he just wants to be a dictator for one day, just to see how it feels.

If he does like the test drive, he'll have a tough time converting the media, liberal judges, all the liberal cities, mayors, governors. etc, etc, etc...


It usually takes even the most fragile governments a decade or more to go full dictator, Trump only has four years.

But never underestimate the power of Trump.

Or the boogeyman.

Talk about some over-the-top hyberbole.

....Even if there is no such thing as Satan.

I think where you and I differ is that I draw a very harsh and real red line at the character of a guy like that ever making it into office (or back into office in this case). I view it as breaking the seal, so to speak. I view it as such a dangerous precedent, especially given a laundry list of concerns surrounding the guy that could stretch from Cincy to Cleveland.

It's extremely noticeable in the rhetoric of politicians who kiss his ring. Hell, have you seen some of the political ads showing up here in Ohio. So many without so much as a platform (other than maybe the border). They mostly pledge loyalty to Trump, and not only talk about destroying the Biden agenda, but also actively campaign against other Republicans who are disloyal to Trump. Bro, that ish is dangerous. Again, slippery slope.

For starters, check this out:



I mean, bro, wtf was that??? It's not the only one, too. Just watch Jeopardy to see how they all compare to each other during the commercial breaks.

Where you and I do agree, and this is what got me tarred and feathered on the Democrats thread, is that the politicians (Biden included) who were legacy spent so much time enriching themselves at our expense, while riling up anger in their bases at the "villains" on the other side that they eventually lost control of the train and enabled someone like Trump to come along. He was elected because people were angry and he captured on it really well.

I don't like Biden. I don't think he has any business being in the White House. I think I often get confused for being a "Libtard" because of how much I bash on the Trumpian side of politics, but that is because I view it as such a concern. At this point, I view the Biden administration as jumping back into the frying pan from the fire, but it's still an awful place to be.

There is so much we need to do to fix this joint, and it starts with actually holding our own sides accountable, like you and I have talked about, rather than flinging poop, which is easy to do because we are all upset, and rightfully so. Imagine the impact that it would have if we actually went to our respective reps and said "Hey, you actually kinda suck. WTF are you actually doing?" vs just yelling at the other guy.

Pipe dream, I know. But for the time being, I think my focus is on at least trying to avoid a nightmare.

He actually passed away in 2012 so he's no longer a threat...

"They."

Hook line and sinker you have swallowed all trash from the sources you sought to reinforce a dull witted narrow point of view.

Good post.

It's important to look beyond the scope of an event and toward what that event will do to shape the future. While I don't share the same overwhelming feelings, in this case, make no mistake -- I share them.

Setting stupid, dangerous, even obscene precedents is the fountain that has created a flood of problems in this country. Especially over the past ten years.

As far as the ongoing "kiss the ring" discussion. I think it's wildly mischaracterized. Please don't think I'm saying it isn't there -- it is.

That IS NOT what I get when I see ridiculous commercials like the one above. I watch that, laugh, and see a week candidate that can't stand on his own record or ideas. I roll my eyes. But I also understand the strategy. A candidate that has nothing else assuming he has an automatic 30% by kissing Donnie's ass.


We've got four more years of [censored], regardless of how this pans out. Then, hopefully, we can start moving in a more united direction. I'll be honest though, I doubt that that will be true for a while longer. COVID taught these power-hungry POS humans how strongly division sells and the media is the tail that wags that dog.

Wait. Satan is dead??

Phyllis Diller.

LOL, I was thinking the former owner who shall not be named.

Good post yourself. I guess even a blind squirrel finds a nut

The "kiss the ring" for me comes about in terms of quantity as well as the hyperbole of the ads themselves. He was just one guy, but there are lots of others. I'm going to make myself sound like an old man, but just watching Jeopardy every day and you get inundated. Not only with the guy I showed you, but also with some other guy who dresses like a drill sergeant, and them some other guy who pours concrete. All three invoke the Trump name with commercials so ignorant it makes me laugh at first, before I realize a ton of people will take them seriously.

Last election, across the river, Daniel Cameron lost to Andy Beshear by only 5 points. Cameron's ads in my area were all "Trump, Trump, Trump!" One of them even had a message from the Donald himself where he endorsed Cameron (but actually really endorsed himself). Oddly enough, had RvW not been overturned, I think Cameron could have taken Kentucky. I tried to find the commercial, but couldn't see it readily available.

I was really hoping that Republicans would move away from Trump after the 2020 election and J6, but it seems those that did (Kinzinger, Cheney, Gonzo, etc.) were actually censored, ousted, etc. and those who initially condemned him (McCarthy), went back to kiss the ring. It almost galvanized his hold on the party. That is the moment when I really started getting concerned. Then the cascading of politicians seeking his endorsement kept adding to those concerns.

"The sun shines on a dawg's ass some days".

Well, if you're watching Jeopardy everyday... nevermind. Just kidding. We haven't watched it in a while, but it was every night for years. If you want to feel dumb, watch a couple episodes with my wife in the room. Since the advent of DVR, I've become expert level of making sure I watch virtually NO ads, tbh. I'm mostly in Indiana, so about the only ad I see, and keep seeing everywhere, is for an Indiana congressman. I keep thinking 'that's an effective way to name drop'. He mentions Trump once: "You know, president Trump was right, blah, blah, blah... and then repeats conservative talking points but makes them his own." I guess if he faced a flame-throwing Trumpster, he may be in trouble. I digress.

To your point, there are millions and millions of "Trumpians", so, as crazy as it sounds, I'm sure there are political strategists everywhere that insist that becoming a mini Trumpster is the ticket to (re)election. On the flip side, there are many that insist Nikki Haley has destroyed her own political future by being anti-Trump. We'll see how that works out. When you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are gobs of people that are actually in fear of a future with either candidate.

The whole "our democracy is at stake" spiel is one of the craziest things I've ever witnessed. Especially when I watch the left try everything imaginable to get Trump off the ballot, while screaming it. Whether you believe it to be true or not, you have to admit, this seems more like a SNL script than real life. Speaking of which, the opening from 2/23 show (Shane Gillis) and the way in which people actually kiss the ring was life imitating art in the grandest of ways.

And I just read that again... "but actually really endorsed himself".

I have no idea how we got here. My wife and I spent the first year of 'this Trump reelection thing is real' just looking at each other with our mouths hanging open. "How?? "Why??" But here we are.

It's the Tournament of Champions going right now, so I feel dumb regardless with the caliber of questions being asked. I need it to be the Junior series again

You know, I've been pondering the Nikki Haley angle. I think in the Gen Election, she wins. The primary is the real issue, obviously. She's tried so hard to go in the paint, but not go too hard in the paint. Now that she is a thread away from officially losing, she has started to become more aggressive. I think it'll take Trump losing a general election and another loss of seats in Congress for the R's to finally start looking in the mirror and hopefully making the right decision to leave him behind. I'm concerned that him making it back into office will prolong the skullduggery, if not far worse. We'll see what happens with her future. If there is a mirror moment, she may become the frontrunner next time around.

On the flipside, you have guys like DeSantis. I feel like he ruined his political career because he wasn't anti-Trump enough. Trump came out swinging and called him Ron DeSanctimonious, and DeSantis reacted by basically going "He he, ha ha, Trump is great, and I'm a lot like him, but in my own way." so much so that people were like "Well, then why don't we just vote for the real guy instead of an imposter?"

DeSantis started to turn on the fire later on, but again, it was too little, too late.

I always really like to pay attention to politicians when they are about to concede or when they are retiring, because they actually show semblances of honesty. DeSantis said "You can be the strongest, most dynamic successful Republican and conservative in America, but if you don't kiss that ring, then he'll try to trash you." It was confirming what many of us thought: that it doesn't matter what your stance, platform, beliefs, etc. are. It just matters if you pledge allegiance. Of course, about a week later DeSantis conceded and kissed the ring, haha.

Haley is more all-or-nothing. She rolled the dice, because she just recently backed off on the pledge to support Trump as a nominee. I believe her quote was that the "RNC then was different than what the RNC is now." I respect that and hope she sticks to her guns. If Trump loses the general election to Biden, she needs to go on the full offensive, from a Republican strategic standpoint.

I really do not care about any party.

All I want is someone who can govern with vision and foresight. Understand what policies benefit the general population.

I had always thought that middle ground and compromise was a good thing. Cooperation is needed to accomplish realistic goals.

Nothing is getting done by the government today. It is nothing but partisan politics which is useless.

Of course you do… and his crap filled diaper can be VP.

Whack-a-doodle-town has now chimed in! Smh. American Taliban.

Weak post.

Historians do not wear red or blue glasses.

They have a stake in looking at the criterion that spells the truth.

trump is at the bottom for real reasons.

As much time as libtards spend erasing history, I would have to disagree with you.

My goodness.
Oh, my goodness.

A 'fellow American citizen' actually believes this to be true.



What am I supposed to take away from something like this?

Historians are people with jobs.

They do their job which requires them to be impartial.

You dislike the facts so you refuse to accept the facts. Just like trump lost the election and broke the law trying to remain in power.

You mean like those libtards that keep banning books? Oh wait, those are republicans. My Bad

There is only one take away, the statement is crap. And I believe that kinda thinking is warped.

Some people are gone, and it's scary. Real writing a manifesto in a jail cell a century ago kinda style.

Sad actually.

I struggle with how anyone cannot see what is spelled out billboard clear.

Jan 6th was on tv. trump is on tape asking an election official to create votes for him to win Ga.

Blind denial of facts that are indisputable.

At the same time these same people are gullible enough to regurgitate hate that comes from the sources they seek out.

I gave Americans way more credit. My faith in the people of this country has been dramatically shaken.

Yes “slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit,” is not white washing and hiding history.

The only people who think you need a statue of traitors erected in The United States in a town square or you're trying to erase history by removing them obviously can't read books or go to a museum. We fought against Hitler in WW2. Hirohito was the leader of Japan when they attacked Pearl Harbor. Are you suggesting that since we don't have statues of them displayed in town squares that we're trying to erase history too?

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Bill to ban lessons making white students feel ‘discomfort’ advances in Florida Senate

A Florida state Senate committee on Thursday advanced a bill that would prohibit making white people feel “discomfort” when taught or trained about past discrimination in public schools and private businesses.

The bill, S.B. 148, would prevent school educators from teaching subjects that could make students feel responsible for historical wrongs based on their race, sex or national origin.

In private businesses, training or employment practices that make an individual feel uncomfortable on similar grounds could be subject to a company lawsuit for unlawful employment practices.

The state Senate Education Committee approved the bill Thursday on party lines.

“An individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, does not bear responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex,” the legislation by Sen. Manny Diaz (R) reads. “An individual should not be made to feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.”

The bill mirrors a proposal by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who rolled out the Stop the Wrongs to Our Kids and Employees Act, or WOKE Act, in December, which would allow parents to sue schools that teach critical race theory, a decades-old field of academia examining how race intersects with the law.

“We shouldn’t be teaching students, for example in a diverse classroom, that someone is automatically racist or sexist or anti-immigrant by the sheer nature of their background,” Diaz told the Senate Education Committee, according to USA Today.

“We cannot hit the students with that because you’re from this group, you’re automatically sexist or racist,” he added. “The discussion has to be had for students to critically think and understand what was wrong … and how we moved past it or haven’t moved past it.”

The bill has been met with fierce criticism, with some Democrats saying that the legislation will lead to lawsuits and censorship in facilities. State Sen. Shevrin Jones (D), a Black man, condemned the bill, the news outlet reported.

“This bill’s not for Blacks, this bill was not for any other race,” Jones said. “This was directed to make whites not feel bad about what happened years ago. At no point did anyone say white people should be held responsible for what happened, but what I would ask my white counterparts is, are you an enabler of what happened or are you going to say we must talk about history?”

“The governor will continue to go across the country with his racist rhetoric on critical race theory. … It’s a problem that doesn’t exist,” Jones added, according to The Associated Press. “I think the governor’s policies that he continues to push are racist.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...te-students-feel-discomfort-advances-in/

They should have just called it the Snowflake Bill. "We can't tell our children the truth because it will hurt their feelings."

When you consider the lies they believe, it begins to make sense. For instance, I have a friend that believes that Antifa and BLM were the ones breaking into the capitol. When I explained that they were all carrying Trump signs and such, he said it was because they were wanting it to seem like Trump supporters were doing the attacking. There are those that actually believe that Obama is still running the country and that Biden is just a figurehead.

If you were to find out that either of those things were true, you'd think like they do as well.

They also are completely sure that Biden lost the 2020 election. They point to the alleged fraud in Georgia where the two election workers supposedly did something with ballots. On top of that, they swear that those ladies were arrested.

Of course, they were never arrested. And on top of that, one lawsuit after another have proven that the election wasn't stolen at all. But they don't buy it. Why? I haven't any idea.

Sometimes, and this may seem a little on the rude side, but I think that with some of these folks, if brains were gun powder, they wouldn't have enough to blow their noses

I came to this thread a little late and I guess I didn't miss much.

Interesting I think it sort of distilled down to the essence of the next election for an "swing voter" - i.e a voter that isn't going to vote party line regardless of the candidate.

The question I think comes down to

[1] Is Biden mentally fit to run the country

versus

[2] Can you vote for a guy who refuses to admit he lost, tried to break the law to stay in power - and did and said all the very, very, very long list of all the trash, narcistic, non-American, self interest B.S tings.


Maybe that's being captain obvious - but it's what I think it comes down to. Immigration, economy, Isreal, Ukraine - all take a back seat to those two drivers. And it's prbably been said before but I'd vote for rock covered in moss before I'd vote for the corruptness and chaos that is Trump.

And personally I think Biden's memory is going fast - I hate the choice the Democrats have forced on the voters. But given his state of the union speech and performance - when he's on form he's much more able to talk intelligently than Trump. For all the cringeworthy moments of Biden stumbling and looking bad - Trump has as many brain farts and moments of utter brainlessness. What a freaking choice for the most powerful nation on earth - what more do you need to see to know the system is totally broke.

At a time when true leadership is needed. Voters are left once again with selecting not the best candidate but the one who will be less harmful.

Even with the two available choices trump is by far the worst possible choice.

If there is justice in this country; he deserves to be put in jail for the crimes he has committed.

In addition he has no qualifications for the office. He has no loyalty to the constitution and the rule of Law.

Not putting him in jail is saying he is above the law.

trump being the GOP candidate is a statement of the condition of the country.

Obviously you missed his brilliance during his speech the other night exposing MAGA GOPers and the SC on the world stage.

He literally mentioned the SotU in his post. Good grief, man…

its so funny watching people roast old people for being old, yet go straight to the voting booth and vote they old ass into office.

its like the same people had the chance to practice what they preach and vote for a younger candidate regardless of party.....but don't...or won't. clearly the younger-middle age crowd think they're capable of running the country, OR....its an indictment on how we view the current group of leaders in the younger age groups.

wish people would be honest.

I'm pretty sure i'm casting my vote for Kennedy.

Everyone says he won't win because no one votes for the independent. So, maybe my vote and others can inspire change in future elections.


I'm sick of dumb and dumber political part going after each other.

I'm waiting to see if No Labels comes up with a candidate.

Same. Manchin and Haley both said no so I’m curious to see who they get, if anyone.

My consideration of a No Labels candidate is based more on geography as it is anything. I live in Tennessee. There is a zero percent chance Biden can win Tennessee. I mean it's nowhere in the neighborhood of being close. If I lived in a swing state I would vote for Biden because in that case my vote may actually make a difference in the outcome. But here it will not.

As you, I and a host of others have indicated we are not happy with the choice of either party in who they have nominated. A lot of the country shares that view. So voting for Biden in Tennessee would be an exercise in futility. At least a vote for No Labels would be a statement of my disgust in the candidates both parties have chosen. If enough people vote No Labels at least it would send a strong message to both parties they need to wake the hell up and offer better choices.

So I can cast a meaningless vote or cast a vote that sends a message.

This is an important article. It is the history of the trump family.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...p-dementia-father-fred-alzheimers-biden/

Pay site, can’t read it. But it’s obvious trump has been showing symptoms of Alzheimer’s disease for sometime now.

I didn't pay?

Google Fred trump dementia

Did it. It’s hereditary. And it shows.

Plus the conniving sob basically stole from his family.

He has the moral spine of a jelly fish.

Nobody likes Donald. And his undoing is at hand. This makes him very dangerous IMHO, and I would put ABSOLUTELY NOTHING past him doing to win. And I’m certain he will lose the legitimate 2024 election, just not sure if they’ve rigged the local levels to a point he can steal it. The entire MAGA movement is morally bankrupt, bereft of common sense, and toxic. It’s the political cancer in our democracy.

The electoral college is no longer useful to the US. It should be the popular vote alone.

If that were the case trump would never have been elected.

Leading psychiatrist:

There's definitely something not right with Trump.

I couldn't help but chuckle at your word choice, though. "Leading" can be taken a couple ways. There's leading as in top/best. There's also leading as in trying to steer one in a certain direction.

This is a new video on YouTube. But it feels like the video that the video is referencing is rather old. The "psychologist" says "if Trump becomes President." That would seem to indicate that he said it at least 8 years ago or so.


The YouTuber seemingly framing it in the present would appear to be misleading. Maybe he was misled by the article he was referencing. Or maybe I just don't trust anything media-related to be unbiased.

That doesn't invalidate what the Dr. said, but I try to be aware of how things might be being presented for effect along with the actual content.

we are not a democracy.

Yes we are and no we’re not. We have always had a democracy, but GOPers hang on to the term ‘republic’ like a dog with a bone. Potato potato.

We've got a long way to go to match Roman Empire--- our democracy has worked for over 200 years- founders were very small- the big states couldn't crush the little states-- large population states can't crush small population states---mainly two party system is better than most. Sure wish we had younger generation option- Trump is morally bankrupt/to old, Biden is two old, but not on same moral corruption as Trump......anybody but Trump. Kennedy seems pretty goofy----maybe not him either.

We've got a long way to go to match Roman Empire--- our democracy has worked for over 200 years- founders were very smart- the big states couldn't crush the little states-- large population states can't crush small population states---mainly two party system is better than most. Sure wish we had younger generation option- Trump is morally bankrupt/to old, Biden is two old, but not on same moral corruption as Trump......anybody but Trump. Kennedy seems pretty goofy----maybe not him either.

trump's cognitive decline may just be his normal self because it doesn't get much worse than this intellectually.

"I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."

Basically just kill yourself.

Great advice from the person who is leading the country.

Honestly, I don't think it's that bad of a question. He's not telling anyone to do anything there. It kind of sounds like chelation therapy. Or like blood purification devices that got emergency use authorizations during COVID. link

Yes, he's an idiot that says dumb things. I'm not sure that is the best example. One can quibble about disinfectant (for bacteria by definition) vs antiviral but that seems to be a pretty common usage (including the EPA link.)

Obviously, blood would have to be oxygenated through different means while the lungs were "being cleaned," (i.e, something like ECMO?) but it's not a complete impossibility (or maybe it is?). It might be worth scientific inquiry. An inhaled (or applied through positive pressure) antiviral could be a line of inquiry to consider.

He didn't say to huff household cleaners (at least not there) despite some people trying to interpret it that way. That "like that" is probably doing more work for me than it did for you.

Doesn't mean it isn't a blind squirrel/nut situation.

I see the excuse machine is in full force.

Don't worry, Bubby, it will get trampled by the fake outrage machine.

I don't think the outrage is fake nor should it be.

Isn't it weird though?

On one hand people equate the above to Trump telling people to drink Lysol and are outraged.

On the other, they act like him insisting to hundreds of millions to get the vaccine doesn't exist and never happened.


Seems like some reeaaaly selective way of seeking some #fakeoutrage.

I guess I will run out and buy a bible from a guy who was caught banging a porn star while his wife was home with his new born son.

You can look at this creep under your own lens.

The stupidity of his comments about injecting disinfectants and other comments made during that press conference casts a spotlight on his ignorance.

Remember this. He lost the election. He knows he lost. A plan was put into place to have his VP overturn an election that was over after all legal challenges were made.

I won't claim people don't go too far on certain things. But in his press conferences he certainly wasn't promoting that everyone go out and get the vaccine. He did diminish and downplay the severity of the virus and that certainly was not helpful in fighting the spread. That's a pretty accurate description of what was happening at least early on.

There are certainly enough concrete things he has said and done to cause actual outrage. Beyond attempting to overturn the election he knows every time he makes his false claims about judges and prosecutors he is putting an actual target on their backs. that's something he fully understands and makes the choice to put them in danger. I could go on but I think you are all too aware of what I'm saying.

Of course outrage from the right is going after women’s reproductive rights, raising taxes on the middle class, lowering taxes for the very rich and making sure there isn’t equality for all.

Could you rephrase this for clarity? I'm not sure what you are trying to say. What is outrage doing?

I don't seem to be able to figure out how whatever you're trying to say with that selection of concepts could relate to cognitive decline (except perhaps as an example.)

Someone shared this with me the other day... Highlights some of the legislation Biden has passed. Its written by someone who agrees with the goals and spending... No doubt some will think otherwise. But no wonder MTG and others are throwing toya out of their prams that Biden manages to pass legislation and be a president without relying wholly on executive order or actions.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/08/joe-biden-presidency-progressives-donald-trump#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17117923117039&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fcommentisfree%2F2023%2Fsep%2F08%2Fjoe-biden-presidency-progressives-donald-trump