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Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Posters are making good points and everyone on this board is entitled to an opinion.

I don't actually think some of the points are opinions per say. More pointing out that there are questions that still need to be answered and there's no way of knowing how it will play out.

I and others I've seen aren't predicting watson will fail. After watching watson last season can anyone actually state that there aren't questions left unanswered?


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Some on here said they were no longer Browns fans when we signed him, so those feelings linger. They aren't going away, maybe ever.

Definitely a couple of steps below the fanatic threshold.

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I suspect if we win they will backtrack on all of that. If not, well it just depends.


The word fan is short for fanatic. That's a pretty high bar. Supporting the Browns is something I will most likely always do. But the passion has lessened and even if I get to watch Haslam lift the Lombardi trophy it will never be the same as it would have been before.


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It's kinda funny how Hopkins basically has little interest from NFL teams. He is linked to the Patriots and loosely linked to the Titans.

If the Browns really wanted him, we could probably get him for 5-7 mill.

If anything, I'm surprised the Ravnes didn't go after him. They have about 10 mill available


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Some on here said they were no longer Browns fans when we signed him, so those feelings linger.

Most people have walked that back in their heads. Whether they want to admit it or not is a different story.


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Silliness. The thread turned to Watson. Beat that dead horse.


There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.

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It's not dead. He's the Browns starting QB.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
It's not dead. He's the Browns starting QB.

But much of the story has been rehashed many times.

I am not saying it shouldn't or can't. just pointing out why many consider it a dead horse.


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I'm can see why many would like for it to be a dead horse and never seen it brought up again, that's for sure. But once you swallow something you're stuck with it until it comes out the other end.


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Which is what the current Watson thread would be ideal for.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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It's not dead. He's the Browns starting QB.

But much of the story has been rehashed many times.

I am not saying it shouldn't or can't. just pointing out why many consider it a dead horse.



The only person that can kill this story is Watson. He can't do it with his words.. Just his play.,

Even then, I'm not sure it is dead!


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
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It's not dead. He's the Browns starting QB.

But much of the story has been rehashed many times.

I am not saying it shouldn't or can't. just pointing out why many consider it a dead horse.



The only person that can kill this story is Watson. He can't do it with his words.. Just his play.,

Even then, I'm not sure it is dead!

Agree... I'm hoping Watson gets back to form... he had a few flashes last year, but we need him to be a top tier QB


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Titans expected to sign WR DeAndre Hopkins to a two-year, $26 million deal

DeAndre Hopkins is headed back to the AFC South.

The Tennessee Titans are expected to sign the three-time All-Pro wide receiver to a two-year, $26 million contract, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Sunday.

Following his release from the Cardinals at the end of May, Hopkins chose Tennessee as the spot of his first free-agent visit, a meeting that occurred on June 11. Despite later meeting with the Patriots, the Titans proved too good an opportunity.

The Hopkins signing is new general manager Ran Carthon's first major get of his tenure in Tennessee, and it goes a long way in filling the void felt last season after the club traded A.J. Brown during the 2022 NFL Draft.

Although Hopkins has missed 15 contests the past two seasons due to a six-game suspension and various injuries, he remains a difference maker at 31 years of age. In the 19 games he did play over that span, he collected 106 catches for 1,289 yards and 11 touchdowns, consistently creating separation and making acrobatic contested catches when space didn't exist.

Across his 10-year career, he has 853 receptions for 11,298 yards and 71 touchdowns, plus five Pro Bowls. All but one of those Pro Bowl campaigns came with the Texans, the team he will now face twice a year as a rival.

He immediately becomes Tennessee's most dangerous wideout upon signing. His presence should also help expedite the development of Treylon Burks, who the Titans drafted to replace Brown in the first round last year.

Burks struggled for parts of his rookie season, dealing with limitations from asthma throughout the offseason program and struggling to shine in an oft-stagnant Tennessee offense. He finished the year with 33 receptions for 444 yards and one touchdown in 11 games.

With Hopkins in the fold, those two will form the main focal point of the club's passing offense.

Who leads that attack under center remains to be seen. Ryan Tannehill is the incumbent starter, but he appears to be a lame-duck quarterback at best heading into his age-35 season with no guaranteed money left on his contract. Last year's third-round pick, Malik Willis, and Will Levis, this year's No. 33 overall selection, will also by vying for the spot.

Hopkins should elevate whoever rises to the top, and his arrival also bolsters the Titans' chances of wresting back the AFC South from the Jacksonville Jaguars.

https://www.nfl.com/news/titans-expected-to-sign-wr-deandre-hopkins-to-a-two-year-26-million-deal


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They needed him more than he needed them.
Burks is not their number 2, that probably belongs to NWI, Nicholas Westbrook>Ikina
the Titans appear a LOT LESS talented than the Browns, so if coaching didn't matter, the Browns should crush them like a grape.
They have about 4 players, but they are good and therefore don't let their better coach beat your team with a team with barely 4 memorable players.


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Yet Vrabel has done a lot with the limited talent he's been given. And I can tell you for a fact, since I live just outside of Nashville, that Burks is considered their #2 WR behind Hopkins. He was injured last year but the team is counting on him to fill that role this year. Their D is quite talented and your post indicates you have no idea of their talent level.


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their whole deal will be how well Tannehill can manage it. They will be a tough out if he can play average


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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j/c:

Tennessee's passing play rank since 2018 (when Vrabel took over):

2022- 27th
2021- 31st
2020- 30th
2019- 30th
2018- 31st

It will be interesting to see how many incentives Hopkins reaches and wonder if his agent took any of the above into consideration.


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When you combine Tannehill and the two youngin's it's not an NFL destination one would think is conducive for a WR to reach his incentives.


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Tennessee just seems like a team that is tough enough to stay in every game and squeak into the playoffs, but never talented enough to actually win it all


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I think it's a case of Vrabel being able to do a lot with a little. More so on the O side of the ball than anything.


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
j/c:

Tennessee's passing play rank since 2018 (when Vrabel took over):

2022- 27th
2021- 31st
2020- 30th
2019- 30th
2018- 31st

It will be interesting to see how many incentives Hopkins reaches and wonder if his agent took any of the above into consideration.

Interesting point. Maybe it signals the Titans are going to move off the Henry train a little.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
j/c:

Tennessee's passing play rank since 2018 (when Vrabel took over):

2022- 27th
2021- 31st
2020- 30th
2019- 30th
2018- 31st

It will be interesting to see how many incentives Hopkins reaches and wonder if his agent took any of the above into consideration.

Interesting point. Maybe it signals the Titans are going to move off the Henry train a little.

Could be. They brought in a new OC too.


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
j/c:

Tennessee's passing play rank since 2018 (when Vrabel took over):

2022- 27th
2021- 31st
2020- 30th
2019- 30th
2018- 31st

It will be interesting to see how many incentives Hopkins reaches and wonder if his agent took any of the above into consideration.

Interesting point. Maybe it signals the Titans are going to move off the Henry train a little.

Could be. They brought in a new OC too.

Yep.

Henry is a HOF type back, but a mule can only carry so much for so long before you wear it out.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I think it's a case of Vrabel being able to do a lot with a little. More so on the O side of the ball than anything.
Mike Vrbal's antiquated approach on offense has cost the
Titans a Super Bowl appearance . The Titans are kinda like
The Guardians in the aspect they play in a weak division.
Thru reach the playoffs and their formula fails.
Playing the Texans Jags (pre Lawrence) and Colts the Titans
We're guaranteed to win 4 division games.

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Also...there was a guy in the XFL...Peson or Pearson. I think the browns should look at him as a wildcard at WR. The guy is fast and had good numbers in the XFL. Played in the SEC.


Maybe worth a look.


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Hopkins is not what a championship team is made of. He has proven that point. Good Bye and good luck.
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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Also...there was a guy in the XFL...Peson or Pearson. I think the browns should look at him as a wildcard at WR. The guy is fast and had good numbers in the XFL. Played in the SEC.


Maybe worth a look.
I think I literally just read that they were working him out


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Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I think it's a case of Vrabel being able to do a lot with a little. More so on the O side of the ball than anything.
Mike Vrbal's antiquated approach on offense has cost the
Titans a Super Bowl appearance . The Titans are kinda like
The Guardians in the aspect they play in a weak division.
Thru reach the playoffs and their formula fails.
Playing the Texans Jags (pre Lawrence) and Colts the Titans
We're guaranteed to win 4 division games.

All that sounds great in theory. But then when you negate to point out the Titans FO have given him Ryan Tannehill as his QB and a third round draft pick last year at QB your opinion doesn't read so well.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Also...there was a guy in the XFL...Peson or Pearson. I think the browns should look at him as a wildcard at WR. The guy is fast and had good numbers in the XFL. Played in the SEC.


Maybe worth a look.

At least they're taking a look at him. Here ya go Peen............




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Originally Posted by eotab
Hopkins is not what a championship team is made of. He has proven that point. Good Bye and good luck.
jmho


maybe not, but Titans are better with him... AFC south is not strong... two team race between Titans and Jags... Jags are probably the pick to win, but I'd go with Titans...


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