tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?
It ended up working out fine for MAGA.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Israel is not causing the problem for Gaza. Hamas is. They conducted a terrorist attack in Israel and are still holding Israeli's hostage.
And the only time Hamas has released hostages was during a cease fire. I wonder how many of those hostages Netanyahu has killed during all of those bombings? How many tens of thousands more women and children will need to die before you stop using that initial attack on Israel to excuse them?
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Israel has a right to defend itself and war is not pleasant but what is happening to Gaza is 100% Hamas's fault and blaming Israel is idiotic.
Once again, that's no excuse to use 2000 lb. bombs to totally level residential neighborhoods. It's no excuse to bomb hospitals and schools. There is no excuse to target the civilian population of Gaza.
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Making excuses for someone murdering 2 Israeli diplomats in cold blood here in the United States which CNN reporters and many on the left in social media is doing is wrong and cannot be justified.
First of all CNN has never made excuses for those murders. In fact they have condemned those murders. But when you don't even watch CNN and just repeat what you've been told this is the type of response that's to be expected. Explaining the motivation behind those murders is not making excuses for them anywhere except Trumplandia where you reside. You are correct that a small minority on the fringe do make excuses for it and that's wrong. But that's not the picture you're painting here.
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Chanting for the elimination of a country "From the river to the sea" is supporting terrorists.
There are a very small percentage that take it too far and here we agree. But stop trying to make it sound like that's wide spread because it's not.
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The Phrase "Free Palestine" is nothing more than antisemitic Jewish hate.
Once again that is lie that you're either spreading or have been brainwashed to believe. Freeing the people of Gaza from starvation and death is neither antisemitic nor hate.
You mentioned excuses. Yet here you are continuing to make excuses why you think it's okay for Netanyahu to continue slaughtering and starving innocent women and children.
I'll ask you again, are Israeli's who are against what Netanyahu is doing guilty of "antisemitic Jewish hate"? Because you claim anyone wanting an end to killing innocent civilians in gaza has to be just that................
Hostage families say Netanyahu is deceiving Israelis, threatening to topple him
Hostage families fume after Netanyahu appears to tease deal only to dash hopes
Brother of captive soldier decries ‘psychological terror’ after premier repeats comment his office walked back about hostage-related announcement ‘today or tomorrow’
Before you continue to rant your silly BS maybe you should explain to these Israeli citizens and even the families of the hostages that what they're doing is "antisemitic Jewish hate". Try not to ignore this in your response.
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Israel is not causing the problem for Gaza. Hamas is. They conducted a terrorist attack in Israel and are still holding Israeli's hostage.
And the only time Hamas has released hostages was during a cease fire. I wonder how many of those hostages Netanyahu has killed during all of those bombings? How many tens of thousands more women and children will need to die before you stop using that initial attack on Israel to excuse them?
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Israel has a right to defend itself and war is not pleasant but what is happening to Gaza is 100% Hamas's fault and blaming Israel is idiotic.
Once again, that's no excuse to use 2000 lb. bombs to totally level residential neighborhoods. It's no excuse to bomb hospitals and schools. There is no excuse to target the civilian population of Gaza.
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Making excuses for someone murdering 2 Israeli diplomats in cold blood here in the United States which CNN reporters and many on the left in social media is doing is wrong and cannot be justified.
First of all CNN has never made excuses for those murders. In fact they have condemned those murders. But when you don't even watch CNN and just repeat what you've been told this is the type of response that's to be expected. Explaining the motivation behind those murders is not making excuses for them anywhere except Trumplandia where you reside. You are correct that a small minority on the fringe do make excuses for it and that's wrong. But that's not the picture you're painting here.
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Chanting for the elimination of a country "From the river to the sea" is supporting terrorists.
There are a very small percentage that take it too far and here we agree. But stop trying to make it sound like that's wide spread because it's not.
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The Phrase "Free Palestine" is nothing more than antisemitic Jewish hate.
Once again that is lie that you're either spreading or have been brainwashed to believe. Freeing the people of Gaza from starvation and death is neither antisemitic nor hate.
You mentioned excuses. Yet here you are continuing to make excuses why you think it's okay for Netanyahu to continue slaughtering and starving innocent women and children.
I'll ask you again, are Israeli's who are against what Netanyahu is doing guilty of "antisemitic Jewish hate"? Because you claim anyone wanting an end to killing innocent civilians in gaza has to be just that................
Hostage families say Netanyahu is deceiving Israelis, threatening to topple him
Hostage families fume after Netanyahu appears to tease deal only to dash hopes
Brother of captive soldier decries ‘psychological terror’ after premier repeats comment his office walked back about hostage-related announcement ‘today or tomorrow’
Before you continue to rant your silly BS maybe you should explain to these Israeli citizens and even the families of the hostages that what they're doing is "antisemitic Jewish hate". Try not to ignore this in your response.
So, some people in Isreal don't understand what it takes to defend themselves from terrorist. I could put up video after video of hostages talking about how they were raped, tortured, and treated in humanely by not just Hamas but even the citizens in Gaza. I stand with Isreal and the IDF to complete their mission of total elimination of Hamas. Where is the outcry for the hostages? Isreal never bombed Gaza until Oct 7th. That is what you seem to forget. Iran is behind Hamas and Hamas is behind the terror attacks and what is happening in Gaza is 100% on them not Netanyahu or the IDF, or Isreal. The Hamas sympathizers in this country are the closets things to Nazi's the world has seen since the Nazi's themselves. It is funny you bring up the KKK. Another hate group that's roots started in the Democratic party just like Atifa, just like BLM, just like this free Palestine movement on college campuses. See a trend here?
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It seems you call 69% "some" and disagree with the vast majority of Israelis. I mean of course you and FOX News knows more about this than actual Israeli's, right? Using catch wordas and phrases like "Nazis" and "antisemitic Jewish hate" are just BS..................
When asked if they support a deal to return all the hostages in return for an end to the war, 69% said they do, compared with 21% who said they oppose it and 10% who said they don’t know. Among coalition voters, 54% said they support a deal, compared to 21% who oppose it. Among opposition voters, 86% said they support the deal, compared with 9% who said they do not.
Among "Coalition voters", which support Netanyahu political party, 51% think a deal should be made that would release the hostages rather than continue on with the war. And yes, Hamas has proposed an end to the war in exchange for the remaining hostages.
You are not only arguing against me and U.S protestors, you're arguing with 69% of the Israeli people. So I ask you again, are 69% of Israeli's also spreading "antisemitic Jewish hate"?
I guess you can stand with 21% of Jewish Israeli's that agree with you if you like. While according to you 69% of them are spreading "antisemitic Jewish hate".
And the beat goes on.......
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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.
I have to say something about this as well... I have seen the can of worms opened.
History has the ability to repeat itself.
What happened in the 1930's and 1940's Germany occurred when a political party took over the democratic government and used its power without due process against its own people because of a difference in religious beliefs. Holocaust and Genocide are appropriate terms.
The State of Israel was formed to provide a home to those of a religious belief (in this case those of the Jewish faith). The State of Israel is controlled by those of the Jewish faith. It is in essence a theocracy, even though it no one calls it that, and the State of Israel would vehemently disagree.
The State of Israel employs twisted strategy of claiming antisemitism whenever it is to its advantage. The State of Israel cannot exist as a theocracy with Palestinians (Muslims). Israel is at a numeric disadvantage in its own territory. The State of Israel (theocracy) cannot survive as a democracy because they do not have the numbers.
Because of State of Israels' past invasions into adjacent areas (occupied territories) it has accumulated more people of the Muslim faith. That only makes things worse.
The Palestinians and others of Muslim belief in the occupied territories do not have the same rights as those of Jewish belief that live in the State of Israel. This is unacceptable to the Palestinians and those who hold Muslim beliefs, leading to "armed resistance forces" and conflict.
Obviously, all the democratic principals associated with the USA, freedom of speech and religion, due process, hot dogs and apple pie cannot not apply to the State of Israel that has to protect its Jewish citizens even if it is at the detriment of its Muslim citizens. In American terms "armed resistance forces" would be the Revolutionary forces led by George Washington.
The State of Israel has to deal with an internal conflict between its Muslims citizens who attack its Jewish citizens.
One of the great ironies, is that it is difficult to discern the difference between anti-Israel and antisemitic. Again, the State of Israel uses this to its advantage.
So when the Muslims attack their fellow Jewish citizens of Israel, the State of Israel attack its own citizens in their own occupied territories in retaliation.
How much retribution is appropriate? 10:1 20:1, 50:1??? And when does retribution become genocide?
The sad fact is that the Palestinians are in a very similar place to the Jewish people 80 years later. A government (Israel, not Germany) using its power without due process against its own people.
And most everyone in the democratic world gets upset when they see people of a religion persecuted be a government. Hence the chant for Free Palestine.
Trump says he'll pardon sheriff who deputized people in exchange for cash
Jenkins is the latest pardon Trump has given to loyal supporters.
Author: MARTHA BELLISLE (Associated Press) Published: 7:21 AM EDT May 27, 2025 Updated: 9:41 AM EDT May 27, 2025
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said Monday that he is pardoning a former Virginia sheriff who was sentenced to 10 years in prison after a jury convicted him on federal bribery charges for deputizing several businessmen in exchange for cash payments.
Former Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins, 53, was found guilty on fraud and bribery charges and sentenced in March. But on Monday, Trump posted on his social media platform Truth Social that Jenkins and his family “have been dragged through HELL by a Corrupt and Weaponized Biden DOJ."
“This Sheriff is a victim of an overzealous Biden Department of Justice, and doesn’t deserve to spend a single day in jail. He is a wonderful person, who was persecuted by the Radical Left “monsters,” and “left for dead,” Trump said in the post. “He will NOT be going to jail tomorrow, but instead will have a wonderful and productive life."
Messages seeking comment were left with Jenkins' lawyers. The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Virginia was closed for the Memorial Day holiday.
Jenkins is the latest pardon Trump has given to loyal supporters. In April, he pardoned Nevada Republican Michele Fiore, who was awaiting sentencing on federal charges that she used money meant for a statue honoring a slain police officer for personal costs, including plastic surgery.
In January, Trump pardoned Ross Ulbricht, the founder of Silk Road, an underground website for selling drugs. Ulbricht had been sentenced to life in prison in 2015 after a high-profile prosecution that highlighted the internet's role in illegal markets.
He also pardoned, commuted the prison sentences or vowed to dismiss the cases of all of the 1,500-plus people charged with crimes in the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol riot, including people convicted of assaulting police officers.
Jenkins was indicted in 2023 on 16 counts — including conspiracy, wire fraud and bribery — concerning programs receiving federal funds. In December, a jury found him guilty of one count of conspiracy, four counts of honest services fraud, and seven counts of bribery.
Jenkins took the stand in his own defense and said there was no connection between the payments he received and the badges he handed out, according to news reports. Testifying against Jenkins were two undercover FBI agents who were sworn in as auxiliary deputies in 2022 and immediately thereafter gave Jenkins envelopes with $5,000 and $10,000 cash, respectively. Jenkins appealed his conviction in April.
Trump said Jenkins tried to offer evidence in his defense, but U.S. District Judge Robert Ballou, a Biden appointee, “refused to allow it, shut him down, and then went on a tirade.” Acting United States Attorney Zachary T. Lee said at the time that Jenkins violated his oath of office “and this case proves that when those officials use their authority for unjust personal enrichment, the Department of Justice will hold them accountable.”
Trump Pardons Reality Stars Todd and Julie Chrisley Following Tax Evasion and Bank Fraud Convictions Jack Dunn Updated Tue, May 27, 2025 at 5:38 PM EDT2 min read
President Donald Trump has fully pardoned Todd and Julie Chrisley after the reality stars were convicted of tax evasion and bank fraud in 2022.
White House communications advisor Margo Martin posted a video to X on Tuesday of Trump on the phone with their daughter Savannah Chrisley, delivering the news that he will fully pardon her parents.
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“It’s a terrible thing, but it’s a great thing because your parents are going to be free and clean, and I hope we can do it by tomorrow,” Trump told Savannah Chrisley in the video. “We’ll try getting it done tomorrow. I don’t know them, but give them my regards and wish them a good life.”
Trump went on to say that Todd and Julie Chrisley were given “a pretty harsh treatment” for their crimes.
Todd Chrisley was set to face 12 years in prison while Julie was sentenced to serve seven, according to WSB-TV in Atlanta. In June 2022, they were accused of falsifying documents to defraud Atlanta banks out of more than $30 million through fraudulent loans. They also hid millions of dollars from the IRS that they earned from their show “Chrisley Knows Best,” a federal jury found. Back in February, their attorney told NBC that Trump was “seriously” considering pardoning the Chrisleys.
The couple’s accountant Peter Tarantino was also sentenced to three years in prison for his hand in the scheme. He was convicted of conspiring to defraud the IRS and filing false tax returns. There has been no word on whether or not a pardon for Tarantino is in the works.
I was wondering what the hell you were talking about. I think I get it now. She wasn't trying to "cross a police line". She was trying to help a mayor keep from getting arrested. Do you get your FOX News feed intravenously? And are you actually trying to compare this to Jan. 6th? Come on man.
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I saw a quote recently that really resonated: "There is a battle right now between spectacle and substance. Spectacle currently has undisputed control of the high ground."
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I was wondering what the hell you were talking about. I think I get it now. She wasn't trying to "cross a police line". She was trying to help a mayor keep from getting arrested. Do you get your FOX News feed intravenously? And are you actually trying to compare this to Jan. 6th? Come on man.
Think what you want if it makes you feel better.
I think many of you need to watch more Fox news. It's pretty well proven what you have been watching has been full of lies.
It's been nothing but cover up with those people you have been watching. They have been stroking your ego for the last 10 years.
How much BS do you need to be spoon fed before you decide you don't like the taste?
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
They had already been inside and were now on the outside before any of this happened. And they weren't trying to get back inside. They just wanted those officers to get their hands off of them now that they had peacefully left the compound. And of course you try to compare that to this...........................
And this.................
What the hell happened to you man?
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I think it's more that a lot of us consider a multitude of sources and boil the facts down to what they are, or at least make an attempt to do so. Calling out the current admin for blatant flaws, lies, mishaps, et al does not mean that we fell for something hook, line and sinker. In fact, when I sift through the vast majority of posts from people who did not vote for 47 on this forum, I find quite a high level of dissatisfaction with the Dems. On the other side, those who remain on this forum show no signs of criticism of the current admin, even when it is blatantly warranted, and those who might have found fault with the current admin, have Houdini'd their way out of the forum.
In fact, there are blatant anomalies that I have never seen a 47 supporter acknowledge, like this one:
“I was disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget deficit, not just decreases it, and undermines the work that the DOGE team is doing,” Musk told CBS News in an interview clip released Tuesday.
The legislation would add $3 trillion or more to federal budget deficits over the next decade with tax cuts that are only partially offset by spending reductions.
The White House and most other Republicans have insisted, contrary to all budget experts, that the tax cuts will be so good for business that they will juice government revenue and make up the difference. So it’s striking for Musk, a close ally of the president, to dump on the bill.
And it’s not like Musk has a problem with questionable budget projections, such as his claims that his DOGE team could find $1 trillion in annual savings by cutting government waste, or that they’ve eliminated $175 billion so far even as real-time federal data shows the government spending more than it did last year by roughly that same amount.
So, is DOGE a failure, or is the bill bad, like he said? How has this administration made well on its promises so far when you look at everything that has been implemented? I'll give you the border. But all else looks to be volatile at best (economy) or a trending failure at worst (Ukraine, DOGE).
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
Trump will 'take a look' at pardoning convicted Whitmer kidnap plotters, he says
Todd Spangler and Arpan Lobo, Detroit Free Press Wed, May 28, 2025 at 2:34 PM EDT5 min read
President Donald Trump said he will look at pardoning the men convicted of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020.
Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office on May 28th, Trump was asked if he was looking at such a pardon. He answered, "I'm going to take a look at it."
The question came after Ed Martin Jr., who is the new pardon attorney for the U.S. Department of Justice, made a comment on "The Breanna Morello Show" podcast last week. Martin said that he was taking a "hard look" at whether Barry Croft Jr. and Adam Fox warranted pardons, comparing them to the people Trump pardoned in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021 attack by his supporters on the U.S. Capitol as Congress met to certify the 2020 election for former President Joe Biden.
Trump made his remarks to reporters as he attended the swearing-in of former Fox News host Jeanine Pirro as interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. Martin had previously been tapped for that role but his name was pulled after he began to lose Republican support in the Senate.
Asked about pardons for the conspirators in the Whitmer case, Trump said, "It’s been brought to my attention. I did watch the trial. It looked to me like somewhat of a railroad job, I’ll be honest with you. It looked to me like some people said some stupid things. You know, they were drinking and I think they said stupid things."
Trump went on to say that "a lot of people are asking me that question (about pardoning the conspirators), from both sides actually. A lot of people think they got railroaded. ... and probably some people don’t."
Whitmer's office did not respond to an inquiry sent Wednesday afternoon about Trump's comments.
The comments come less than two months after Trump praised Whitmer in the Oval Office for "doing an excellent job," as she helped win the Republican president's support for a new fighter mission at Selfridge Air National Guard Base in Macomb County and to get work started again on a barrier to keep invasive Asian carp from reaching Lake Michigan. Trump followed through on both commitments during a trip to Michigan in April.
As president, Trump may pardon or commute the sentence of anyone convicted under federal law.
While the president has the authority to unilaterally issue pardons or commutations, the Office of the Pardon Attorney typically reviews and investigates applications for clemency that are submitted to the Justice Department, then forwards recommendations about whether to grant them or not to the president. It's unusual for a pardon attorney to comment on a case, even when an application has been filed. Neither Fox nor Croft appear to have applications in the Justice Department files.
The federal government alleged in 2020 that Barry Croft and Adam Fox were two members of a group (led by Fox) that plotted to kidnap and possibly kill Whitmer after being disgruntled with her handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. Testimony during the trial revealed Fox, Croft and others, including FBI informants, traveled to northern Michigan where they “cased” Whitmer’s vacation home.
Fox and Croft are the two defendants federal prosecutors were able to successfully convict after a pair of trials in 2022 — initially, a jury acquitted Brandon Caserta and Daniel Harris, whom the government also alleged plotted to kidnap Whitmer, and were hung on Fox and Croft. But at a second trial later that year, jurors in west Michigan returned guilty verdicts for the latter two. Fox was sentenced to 16 years in prison on conspiracy to kidnap and conspiracy to possess weapons of mass destruction charges, while Croft was sentenced to 19 years on the same two charges as Fox, plus a third charge of knowingly possessing an unregistered destructive device. Their trials were held in U.S. District Court in Grand Rapids. Federal court proceedings aren't typically livestreamed, although an audio dial-in broadcast of the trials was provided.
During the trials, attorneys for Fox and Croft argued the two were entrapped by rogue informants and undercover FBI agents, and the two were just engaged in crude talk about their dissatisfaction about the pandemic.
Fox, originally from Potterville, was living in the basement of a Grand Rapids vacuum repair shop at the time he was charged. His defense attorney argued he couldn’t have possibly led a kidnapping plot because he was such a loner.
Croft was a truck driver from Delaware. He was arrested by FBI agents at a truck stop in New Jersey. During the trial, Croft could be heard on an audio recording explaining he was making explosives. At his sentencing, Croft’s attorney said the former truck driver fell “way down a conspiracy rabbit hole.”
Two other men, Kaleb Franks and Ty Garbin, pleaded guilty to kidnapping charges and testified at the trials. They've both served reduced prison sentences and have been released, according to online federal prison records.
Fox and Croft are currently serving out their sentences in a maximum security federal prison in Colorado. In April, the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed sentences for the pair, who argued they didn’t get a fair trial before they were convicted because of how the judge overseeing the case set rules on how long their defense attorneys could cross-examine government witnesses.
The kidnapping plot and the ensuing trials sparked debate over the rise of radicalism and domestic terrorism in the U.S., while defense lawyers argued the charges were a product of overzealous FBI informants and undercover agents.
At the time Fox and Croft were convicted, Whitmer said the verdicts "prove that violence and threats have no place in our politics and those who seek to divide us will be held accountable."
State prosecutors had mixed results in local courts, landing convictions for others accused of providing support to the kidnapping plot. Others charged at the state level were acquitted. The Constitution only permits the president to pardon convictions in federal courts.
In total, 14 men were charged as part of the plot.
Dotd, we must live in completely different realities.
Yeah, and mine is drug free!!!
Good for you. There’s nothing wrong with that at all. But square life ain’t for me. Are you alcohol free too? No cigarettes? If so, you’re golden until they regulate media like fox News as a class 2 stupidification drug.
And if anybody could use a little weed, it’s guys who think weed is drugs.
Trump makes statements and inferences like that when he’s trying to distract the news headline from an issue he’s trying to avoid. Right now, Ukraine is a mess and the fed just hinted toward stagflation.
Do I think Trump would do something as despicable as what he just said? Yes. He pardoned Tarrio for goodness sake. But I think we need to hold his feet to the fire on the country’s direction and the execution of his campaign promises. I’m trying not to buy into his nonsense headlines anymore.
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You have the same problem so many Fox news watchers have. They show what they know you want to see. Feeding you're inability to take in the whole truth. So they edit out things that they know you as a MAGA will never grasp.
We on the left of this discussion have seen what Fox shows, then watched the entire footage and can actually see how Fox is editing things out.
So I think it's YOU that need to expand your viewership to include ABC, NBC and CBS. You'll find, unlike what trump and his minions tell you, all they do is just show you what happened and let you decide what it means.
Every morning I watch the Today Program. It's not just the news of the day, but it's also the other things I find interesting (and yes, some things just aren't) But the bottom line, that show never tries to tell me what to think. They show complete videos and let you decide for yourself.. Something that Fox, Trump and the entire MAGA movement doesn't want.... They want you to believe what they tell you and to forget whatever else is going on.
I'm shocked and surprised that a man of your apparent intellect hasn't figured that out yet. I know you know better.
#GMSTRONG
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"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
I'm not sure if he will pardon those who committed the kidnapping plot against Whitmer. As with many things he says it could be all smoke and mirrors. But when one stops to think about it for a moment, as was mentioned he not only pardoned Tarrio but all of the Jan. 6th rioters which includes those who assaulted more than 100 police officers that day. If he will reward criminals who committed crimes in support of him, why wouldn't he reward criminals who committed crimes against democrats?
This is now the America we live in.
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tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?
It ended up working out fine for MAGA.
The difference is we didn't have elected members of congress and their staff being the ones pushing through those lines.
Unelected person sending his minions to occupy the Capitol is different, but not better.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Just for clarification he was still the sitting president that was elected in 2016 at the time. So he was the elected sitting president.
That only makes it worse.
I love how the narrative changed after J6. The day after we had so many republicans coming out wanting to take Trump down for his actions that day..
Then of course, came the spin doctors and damned if same republicans that condemned Trump began Defending him. First it was ANTIFA that put on Pro Trump Garb and attacked the capital... Then it was peaceful.... Those that fell for that crap are by far, the dumbest Americans ever. If you listen to Fox, Brietbart, Newsnation and the like.... They all did America a disservice. Where is the Fairness Doctrine when you need it.