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Re: The Dems......again mgh888 10/23/26 07:26 AM
Yes - these randos are idiots. There are idiots on both/all sides - no one side has a all the idiots or even more than the other .... and on other websites 'The Left' does the same thing, spreads lies or posts random people and portrays them as representing the entire 'other side'. . . . On Dawgtalkers we only have one poster who seems to do it. Much easier to do that than have a conversation about, say Iran, National Debt, Supporting Putin or other things that are actually happening in Govt. today.
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Re: Coin help BADdog 10/23/26 03:53 AM
You ever use chatgpt. Maybe lay out a bunch of quarters a 10 across 10 down in a square. Take a picture of them. Up load it to chatgpt. Ask if any have collectors value other than face value.
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Re: Cavs/NBA 3.0 Psydeffect 10/23/26 02:27 AM
The quentissential great start by our stars (Mitchell, Mobely and Allen) only to be followed up by the usual 2nd half stinker.

No trust in this team.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? Day of the Dawg 10/23/26 01:58 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
And your total bias shows by the excuses you make for their behavior. Trump has 34 felony convictions. A jury found he sexually assaulted a woman. But that's perfectly fine with your christian self. Ramaswamy uses a mother who abandoned her children at the ages 10 and 12 to go on the run with a fugitive being hunted down on rape charges and that's fine with you. Then you make excuses why that's okay by playing whatabout.

You're a part of what's wrong with this country. You expect everyone else to be accountable except the people you choose to support. They get a free pass from you.

I see you failed or can't address any of the points I made. I'm not surprised by any of that. You love to sling mud but when push comes to shove you can't back it up. The perfect description of a MAGA. Not real Republican what few there are left of them, but a MAGA.

Bless your heart!!! You can regurgitate the medias lies over and over.
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Re: Coulda, woulda, should FATE 10/22/26 11:33 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I'm still not sure how that escapes the fact that if watson gets cut next year the Browns are on the hook to pay 80 million dollars over two years on a QB who is no longer on the roster.

That being not as bad as how bad it would be for other teams in no way means that still isn't a bad thing for the Browns does it?

Nope. Not a soul can possibly think this is a good thing or "not a bad thing".

I simply think the ones in freak out mode about paying so much for someone not even on the roster really aren't seeing the forest through the trees. That's all.
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Re: Random NFL News DeisleDawg 10/22/26 10:00 PM
Jordan Elliot gets released today from the Titans

Due to pulling out a gun in the parking lot

Hopefully that'll help the Browns run game



https://www.nfl.com/news/jordan-ell...out-gun-in-parking-lot-robert-saleh-says
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 MemphisBrownie 10/22/26 09:53 PM
His face when the video ends says it all. rofl

j/k
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Re: More Music PitDAWG 10/22/26 05:42 PM
Country music legend John Anderson died peacefully in his sleep at his home in Smithville, Tennessee, on Wednesday, October 21, 2026, at the age of 71.

RIP John

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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 10/22/26 05:31 PM
Vladimir Putin just named Donald Trump as the best American president in Russian history.
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Re: Goofy Immortal Part Deux PitDAWG 10/22/26 04:51 PM
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Re: Deshaun Watson today Bard Dawg 10/22/26 02:52 PM
He may be running a bit gushy with this O line. Runs hard. I want to see a Mack-Byner backfield and roll the pocket. Monken needs to help the line if DW is going to hold thebasl as long as he has. JMO
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Re: U.S. imposes 50% tariffs on some Canadian goods after trade talks collapse Damanshot 10/22/26 11:50 AM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
You seem to forget that President Trump had split terms. Lot's happened between the two terms.

I also wonder why if he is ticked that Canada doesn't want to be the 51st state, why with the partial tariff and not on everything?

Seriously, I can't believe I am even having this discussion with you.

Timing is everything, As I mentioned. Trump came into this second term saying he wanted to make Canada the 51st state. That started this mess. I am convinced that was his way of Bullying or at least attempting to bully canada into a deal that was more favorable to us.. That almost never works with a strong country like Canada.

You can deny it if you wish, but it's real and it's there for all to see. Except you I guess.
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Re: Trump Is Putin's Puppet. Damanshot 10/22/26 11:44 AM
Originally Posted by mgh888
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TzdEIzic3gg

Witkoff to Putin: 'You're a humanitarian' -- 2 minute video that highlights all the things Putin has done in Ukraine and back in Russia.

I bet the Fake Christian will agree.

UNBELIEVABLE
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Re: Health update Bard Dawg 10/21/26 09:24 PM
Just checking in, OCD. Hope you fight the good fight. Pulling for you, sending prayers for strength and resolve, pal.
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Re: Browns new cont. 2 mgh888 10/21/26 06:43 PM
Agree with both of you.
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Re: OSU/ College Football PitDAWG 10/21/26 05:00 PM
The bowl games are just that. A bowl game. Everyone knows these schools have no chance of winning a national title which is why they aren't in the tournament.

It accomplishes exactly what you described.......

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It gives a showcase to a small school that may have otherwise not had a chance to show it.

And it does so without promoting some absurd claim that these teams are worthy of competing for or are vying for a national championship.

On one hand with these bowl games nobody is trying to fool, convince or con anyone into thinking those teams have a shot to win a national championship. On the other hand they are.

Now before we go any further, I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else that I'm right and you're wrong. What is happening is we are looking at the exact same situation and coming to entirely different conclusions and are presenting our case to each other. It's never anything personal to me.
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Re: Supreme Court has given the Trump administration the green light to use a federal citizenship database to verify voters PitDAWG 10/21/26 01:51 PM
That seems to be the only excuse you can come up with when you lose. But as they say, any excuse is better than none at all.
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Re: Dawgtalkers Pickum Pool 2026 Bull_Dawg 10/21/26 01:13 AM
7 is the most I've hit on all season. This year has been rough.
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Re: Trump’s corruption just set a record. For the first time EVER, voters say it’s their top issue. BADdog 10/18/26 10:37 PM
Donations people can give and candidates receive should have a cap. Thats a nice simple common sense start.
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Re: How Could This Be Real Thread PitDAWG 10/18/26 02:40 PM
I suppose if you drive over a cliff it will make for a soft landing. Now if it can only launch. I had no idea someone could impress you by dropping a car out of the air. Hmmmmm.....

But hey, it's "a car straight from the future".
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Re: Iran War... MoU and forward PitDAWG 10/17/26 02:57 PM
Why would they do that now that the Strait of Hormuz is open? There's only been 18 ships hit in the past 30 days. Those silly rabbits.
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Re: Ukraine says new Starlink restrictions disrupt military as it reels from intel gaps and Trump clash mac 10/16/26 09:25 PM
Trump’s collusion with Russia is real. It’s time to reopen the investigation.

In one week, the president cut an illegal fuel deal with Putin and may have switched off the warnings that keep Ukrainians alive, for his own political benefit.

Miles Taylor
Oct 15, 2026
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Donald Trump may have just done something far worse than his first impeachment. In fact, he went back to the scene of the crime. And there may be a phone call to prove it.

At three in the morning on Tuesday, Russian ballistic missiles started landing on Ukraine, and for the first time in a very long time, nobody in the United States warned Ukraine they were coming.

America has a system for this. U.S. satellites reportedly spot Russian launches and pass the data to Kyiv in time to switch on air defenses. This week, Ukrainian officials say, the system went dark. When they asked why, American officials told them the system had failed because of “bad weather.” The Ukrainians didn’t buy it. They told CBS News the U.S. was “playing” with the system.

The following night, something else went dark. Starshield, which is the military version of Elon Musk’s Starlink — which Ukrainian troops use to fly drones and intercept Russian attacks — was suddenly throttled without warning. Ukrainian President Zelenskyy was furious and warned that “people will die.”

Surprisingly, Musk himself pointed the finger at the White House. “Any limits on speed or usage are decided by the U.S. military and ultimately POTUS,” he wrote, referring to the President of the United States, Donald Trump. Most damningly, the White House has not denied it.

Are we to believe this was a coincidence? Missile warnings and battlefield communications all coming down at the same time? Was it all “the weather”?

Not even a fool would accept that conclusion. Look at last week, and you can surmise exactly what happened. And it may well be criminal.

On Friday, Trump spoke with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and something about that call is very suspicious. Because Trump subsequently announced a deal to buy millions of tons of Russian diesel, waiving sanctions he had signed into law a month earlier. Even GOP Senators have warned this may be an act that broke U.S. law and gave a financial gift to America’s enemy. That very same day in Florida, Trump’s envoys told Ukraine that if Kyiv didn’t stop hitting Russian oil refineries, Washington would cut off intelligence. Then on Saturday, after Russian glide bombs killed 20 people in Ukraine, Trump said the words Putin has been dreaming of him saying: “It’s time for Ukraine to get a new president.”

It doesn’t stop there. On Sunday, Trump announced an “energy ceasefire” neither side had agreed to, basically pressuring Ukraine not to attack Russian energy infrastructure (even though Russia bombed a Ukrainian power station within hours). And by Tuesday, the intelligence warnings and internet connections for Ukrainian forces had gone dark, and the missiles started flying in from Russia. Then last night, the FBI director responded to reports that he’s planning to visit Moscow to meet with the FSB, the successor to the KGB, with a gloating tweet: “From Russia, with Love…”

There are very serious questions here, with very serious implications for the Trump presidency. What did the president know, and when? What did Putin ask of Trump in that phone call? Did Donald Trump agree to give Putin a financial boost and buy his oil? Did Putin suggest it might help Trump in the midterms by lowering gas prices? Did Trump offer to weaken Ukraine’s defenses for Putin? Did Trump then personally order the Pentagon to restrict Ukraine’s satellite communications while Ukrainian cities were under attack? Did he order American agencies to sit on intelligence about incoming strikes? What, exactly, did the two men say to each other on Friday?

And here I suppose is the most glaring question: Does Donald Trump remember that he was investigated for two years over Russia, and impeached over Ukraine, on almost this exact subject? The parallels are uncanny. The first impeachment, in 2019, was about how he had withheld military support from Ukraine in order to extract a political benefit for himself in a “perfect phone call” with the Ukrainian leader. Back then, he froze foreign aid that was supposed to go to Ukraine in order to get leverage over them to help his re-election.

Seven years later, he’s evidently doing it again, but this time it’s far more serious. After a very suspicious phone call with Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump may have shut down early warning systems and battlefield communications — by literally switching them off while civilians slept in their apartments in Ukraine, in the crosshairs of Russia — in order to pressure Ukraine into a bogus “energy ceasefire” in order to herald lower gas prices before the U.S. midterm elections.

There’s a provision in the Constitution about treason, though it’s too narrow to apply directly to this situation. Yet a president who puts his allies in mortal danger with favors to an enemy and for personal benefit has essentially done what treason describes. And impeachment doesn’t require a statute. Indeed, the words “high crimes and misdemeanors” were written to allow Congress to impeach a president for abuses of the public trust, and there’s no clearer abuse than a commander in chief using American intelligence as leverage against the people it was built to protect, on behalf of the dictator trying to kill them.

Vladimir Putin is unleashing hell on Ukraine, and the question our country must confront is whether the leader of the United States lowered the shield so that Putin could carry out murder and so that he could secure some political wins. In 2017, it took a special counsel to find out what Trump and Russia were doing together. In 2026, it might get blown open over an alleged lie about a weather report.

The collusion is real. While the FBI won’t do anything about it, Congress should reopen the Russia investigation. This time, they may have a smoking gun.
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FBI agents and analysts fired for roles in Trump classified files probe sue to get their jobs back PitDAWG 10/16/26 03:14 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — FBI employees fired for their roles in the investigation of President Donald Trump’s retention of classified documents at his Florida estate sued Thursday to get their jobs back, calling their terminations unlawful acts of “political retribution.”

The complaint adds to the growing list of legal challenges to the mass terminations by FBI Director Kash Patel of agents who participated in investigations of the Republican president or who were perceived as opposed to Trump administration interests.

The suit was filed in federal court in Washington on behalf of nine agents, intelligence analysts and staff operations specialists who were fired in February following earlier dismissals of agents who had investigated Trump’s efforts to overturn his 2020 presidential election loss to Democrat Joe Biden.

Patel has said in congressional testimony that the fired employees had “weaponized” the FBI and that terminations at the bureau follow internal investigations that turn up inappropriate conduct. But the agents deny that claim in the lawsuit, noting that that they were fired without any investigation, notice or hearing. They said that between them they had more than a century of distinguished and apolitical FBI service that involved responding to the Boston Marathon bombing, hostage recoveries and the investigation into the 2024 assassination attempt of Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Their firings, the lawsuit says, create an “immeasurable loss” to “America’s national security.”

“In return for their service, they were fired because they did their jobs, as they always did, to follow the facts and law without bias or favor. To this administration, this is an offense. To the rest of us, it is heroic,” said a statement from their attorneys, Margaret Donovan, Abbe Lowell and Rebecca Tinio.

“This lawsuit will prove their unlawful dismissal and hold the administration accountable for this blatant attack on the rule of law,” the statement added.

The Mar-a-Lago investigation produced criminal charges against Trump

The suit includes a detailed recitation of the allegations against Trump, describing how he improperly stored dozens of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, that he took with him after leaving the White House, showed them to people not authorized to see them and obstructed FBI efforts to get them back.

The investigation resulted in a 2022 FBI search of Mar-a-Lago that recovered classified records, and a federal indictment in Florida the following year charged Trump with dozens of felony counts.

Trump denied wrongdoing, and the case was dismissed in 2024 by a Trump-appointed judge, Aileen Cannon, who ruled that the special counsel who filed the charges, Jack Smith, had been illegally appointed by the Biden administration Justice Department.

The nine fired FBI employees did not volunteer for the investigation but were rather assigned to it as part of their work on counterintelligence and counterespionage squads, according to the lawsuit, which says they were terminated because of a baseless perception that the performance of their law enforcement duties had run “afoul of the political and personal loyalty to Trump that Defendants demanded.”

“By casting Plaintiffs’ work on the Plasmic Echo investigation as ‘politically weaponized,’ Defendants incorrectly presumed to know the personal political convictions of Plaintiffs and took unlawful action based on that presumption,” the lawsuit says, using the FBI code name for the classified documents investigation. “Worse still, Defendants incorrectly concluded that those personal political convictions affected or drove their work.”

Several of the fired employees participated in the search, and one signed the affidavit that was presented to a magistrate judge for approval, the lawsuit says. But beyond that particular case, the suit says, the agents and analysts had a diversity of career experience, including expertise in the counterintelligence threat from Iran and instances of helping recover American hostages held abroad.

At least one participated in the investigation into pipe bombs placed in January 2021 near the headquarters of the Republican and Democratic national committees. The investigative team was praised at a news conference by Patel, who shook the hand of one of the employees who would later be fired, Harrison Kaufman, and thanked him for his work, the complaint says.

The lawsuit seeks remedies including reinstatement to the FBI, an awarding of back pay and a court order declaring the firings unlawful.

The suit says the firings were the culmination of a retribution campaign

Lawyers for the fired employees suggest their clients’ “fate was sealed” well before the February terminations, casting the ousters as the culmination of a long-running retribution campaign that kicked into gear once Trump returned to the White House in 2025.

The lawsuit notes how Patel, in his capacity as a conservative podcaster before becoming Trump’s FBI director, had derided the Mar-a-Lago search as “unlawful” and had called agents who participated in it “corrupt government gangsters.”

Days after Trump was inaugurated, a top Justice Department official demanded that the FBI produce a list of employees who had investigated the Jan. 6, 2021 riot at the U.S. Capitol, an order that the then-director, Brian Driscoll, resisted and that was seen within the workforce as a potential prelude to mass firings of employees involved in Trump-related inquiries.

Over the following year, the FBI and Justice Department fired waves of employees involved in investigations of Trump, without hearings or proper notice that the plaintiffs’ lawyers say are required by law. Besides the Mar-a-Lago agents, other employees were dismissed for kneeling at a racial justice protest in Washington in 2020 and for their involvement in a dispute intelligence assessment from 2023 warning of a potential threat from Catholic violent extremists.

The lawsuit suggests the February 2026 firings may have been an attempt to take public attention away from negative publicity Patel received days earlier from his attendance at the Winter Olympics in Milan, where he was seen chugging beer and partying with the U.S. men’s hockey team after their gold medal win.

“The Plaintiffs were unlawfully terminated not for any cause or any legitimate reason, but only to satisfy the President’s personal vendetta,” the lawsuit states. “The firings did not follow any internal investigation or disciplinary process within the FBI, and Plaintiffs were not given any notice, a hearing, or an opportunity to appeal.”

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