Re: Are we tanking?
Floquinho
12/15/25 05:02 AM
Floquinho the excuse for 2026 is that it will take time for the new o-line to build cohesion. I would expect a rough start to the season and then for it to get MUCH better. I am assuming of course that they actually draft a stud at WR and LT and a RT depending on what we pick up in FA. IF I were the GM I would trade back to pick up another first in 2027 if there is a trade partner willing. At the least maybe accept a 2nd round pick to move back a spot or two so we can draft more offensive linemen in the second round because the second round is a great place to get good offensive guards and centers. I would use first round picks for key positions and try to stockpile 2nd round picks galore to build up some actual depth to our roster.
I am assuming of course we don't draft a QB in the first 4 rounds. IF we draft a QB in those rounds it's going to be another wasted year because big holes will be left on this team. That’s a good strategy and I’m with you on most of it but the dysfunctional leadership is still there. New players doesn’t erase bad decision making. You must ask yourself a couple of crucial questions. Have the team and especially our quarterbacks developed or regressed under Stefanski’s leadership? Have our results got better or worse with time? Common sense says that you can only lose so much before you’re what the results tells us. Today’s Cleveland Browns is a product of Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski’s leadership.
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Mahomes tears ACL
YTownBrownsFan
12/15/25 04:48 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patrick-mahomes-injury-kansas-city-chiefs/Patrick Mahomes injury update: Chiefs QB has torn ACL, vows to return 'stronger than ever' after surgery Patrick Mahomes sustained a left knee injury in the Kansas City Chiefs' 16-13 loss to the Los Angeles Chargers on Sunday and departed from the game with 1:53 remaining. An MRI later on Sunday confirmed that the superstar quarterback sustained a torn ACL in that knee, the team announced, and Mahomes and the team are exploring surgical options for the season-ending injury. The injury occurred while Mahomes was rolling out toward the sideline and throwing the ball downfield. A Chargers defender pulled him to the ground during the throw, and his leg bent awkwardly as he lost his footing. "Don't know why this had to happen," Mahomes said on social media. "And not going to lie it's hurts. But all we can do now is Trust in God and attack every single day over and over again. Thank you Chiefs kingdom for always supporting me and for everyone who has reached out and sent prayers. I Will be back stronger than ever ⏰" Mahomes remained down on the field for multiple minutes while trainers examined his leg. He was in clear discomfort and removed his helmet before rising to his feet and walking into the medical tent. Trainers then helped him walk up the tunnel and into the locker room. "I don't know, but it doesn't look good," Reid said of the severity of Mahomes' injury before an MRI revealed the ligament damage. "You guys saw it. We'll just see where it goes." The Chiefs trailed, 16-13, when Mahomes left the contest. He completed 16 of 28 passes for 189 yards without a touchdown, and he threw one interception and took five sacks. Mahomes did find the end zone with his legs, however, and took two carries for 15 yards and a touchdown. Gardner Minshew closed the game in relief of Mahomes and could not deliver a game-tying or go-ahead score. While Mahomes figures to miss the majority of the offseason as he works through his recovery and rehab processes, CBS Sports injury analyst Marty Jaramillo said the timelines bode favorably for the Chiefs to have their quarterback at full strength for the 2026 season opener and beyond. "The average ACL rehab is approximately 6-8 months," Jaramillo said on CBS Sports HQ. "He will miss OTAs, which come around March. But he'd be actually almost jogging by OTAs. So I have zero concerns short-term. He will have surgery within the next 48 hours. That's the best window to do that. And he will have no long-term concerns." Patrick Mahomes injury clouds Chiefs' outlook for 2025 and beyond With the loss and the results in other games on Sunday, the Chiefs are eliminated from playoff contention. Kansas City faced a number of elimination scenarios entering Week 15, and a string of results occurred in the early window to dash its postseason homes. The loss to the Chargers, combined with the Jaguars' win over the Jets, the Bills' win over the Patriots and the Texans' win over the Cardinals triggered a nightmare outcome for the Chiefs, who will watch the playoffs from home for the first time since 2014. The 10-year playoff streak was the second longest in NFL history behind the Patriots' 11-year run from 2009-19. This is thus the first time in Mahomes' nine-year career that he will not participate in the postseason. With this appearing to be the end of the line for Mahomes in 2025, it could conclude a golden era of Chiefs football. Kansas City will await a decision this offseason from tight end Travis Kelce as he decides whether to continue playing or to enter retirement. The Mahomes-Kelce era marked one of the all-time great quarterback-tight end pairings and produced nine AFC West titles, five AFC crowns and three Super Bowl championships.
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Re: Media and Shedeur
bonefish
12/15/25 12:02 AM
I felt strongly that we were going to get beat up today.
It had all the elements for a beat down.
So, my expectations before the game were very low. I don't fault Shedeur. In fact I expected what I saw.
One pic was bad. Two were excellent defensive plays. Shedeur is getting experience that he needs.
He made some good plays. There are things to build on.
The Browns were no match for the Bears. We have horrible wide receivers. We can't block.
Again we got run on. Field position was terrible. There are no excuses for how bad ST have been all year.
The Bills are going to run over us. Another beating.
The Bengals and Steelers we have a chance against but we will be underdogs.
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Re: Perils when you quit smoking
FATE
12/14/25 07:51 PM
Good for you. It would be a lot worse if you kept it up. You definitely pushed the envelope though. Most people, after that span, would just throw in the towel and say "It is what it is". Good job.
There are weird triggers that get me. Walking into a store the other day I saw a guy pause to take those last two deep drags before he put out his cigarette. Got me for a second, nearly felt it in my lungs. Early on, something like that would kick my butt for a few minutes, now it's just a fleeting impulse.
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Re: WNBA Threatening Strike
FATE
12/14/25 04:08 PM
 Romey nails it -- for most of us anyway. Aaaand... Caitlin already being vilified for saying they need to play. The most common-sense approach to actually salvaging the "momentum" they've created.
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Re: Exclusive: US threatens new ICC sanctions unless court pledges not to prosecute Trump
PitDAWG
12/14/25 03:11 PM
Corrupt? You need only look at the oval office to see corruption. When you level entire civilians neighborhoods while killing tend of thousands of innocent women and children, you're not fighting Hamas. The entire globe can see that other than died in the wool trumpians. There is absolutely 0 innocent people in Gaza. Even if there were casualties happen in war. It is sad but if you were around in the 1940's you would have been so sad for those innocent German people too. It's comments like this that make you look like a Russian bot. It's why I don't think it's worth ever responding to you. Your comment is completely without merit, and doesn't pass even a scintilla of examination or thought to dismiss... and is only designed to provoke. Troll The worst thing would be if he actauly believed the sickening things he posts.
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Genocide.
mgh888
12/14/25 10:02 AM
This is interesting. A comparison between South Africa and Gaza. South Africa - betwen March 2024 and October 2026. 18 farmers killed. 2 of them were White. . . . Trump announces there is Genocide in S.A. and offers White Afrikanas to emigrate to the USA. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c989np0ex23oGaza - At least one Palestinian child has been killed every hour on average by Israeli forces in Gaza over nearly 23 months of war, with the number of children killed now surpassing 20,000, Save the Children said. https://www.savethechildren.net/new...ths-war-more-one-child-killed-every-hourIn case someone thinks Save the Children is some sort of partisan hatchet outfit: Save the Children is a global charity founded in 1919 to help children in post-war Europe, now working in over 100 countries to ensure children survive, learn, and are protected, providing aid, education, health, and nutrition support, and campaigning for children's rights, reaching millions with programs for healthcare, poverty alleviation, and crisis response, aiming for a future where no child dies from preventable causes before age five and all receive quality education. https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/about-us
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Re: Tomlin
GMdawg
12/14/25 09:01 AM
Then again no elite coach would ever want to ruin their career by being a coach for the Browns. No truer words ever spoken. That's just the way it will be. At least till we finish our 40 year walk through the desert. We will not lure an elite coach, we can only hope to make one. That walk ended in 2004. Since then we have been walking around bumping into invisable walls in the middle of the dessert for the last 21 years.
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Re: Political Jokes Pt. 4
PitDAWG
12/13/25 06:17 PM
ABERDEEN, SCOTLAND—In a move that sent liquor prices soaring on global markets, on Thursday Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the seizure of a Scottish tanker carrying single-malt whiskey.
“Despite my repeated demands, the tanker refused to deliver its cargo to me,” Hegseth said. “You can ask anyone who knows me: Pete Hegseth will not be cut off.”
Hegseth, who ordered the seizure via a late-night Signal text riddled with typos, said he hoped his action would deter other shippers who dare to threaten his alcohol supply.
“The seizure of this tanker sends a clear message,” he said. “If anything is going to be loaded with whiskey, it’s me.”
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Re: Trump claims to pardon jailed Colorado election clerk Tina Peters, but state officials contend it's unconstitutional
mgh888
12/13/25 01:44 PM
We all know he's a despicable excuse for a human being. Even the maga fan boys have admitted that. But remember what they said... Don't worry about what he's SAYS... Only worry about what he does. Right?
Oh ... Hang on....
I guess this is like the "policing the world" thing. Against it untill trump does it .. Fed Gov should only protect our borders ... Until Trump wants to pull his draws down and take a steaming dump on States Rights and constitution. 💩
Would love to hear someone defend and support this.... But of course their all in hiding.
*Posted to the wrong forum previously !
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Re: Browns News 6.0
10YrOvernightSuccess
12/12/25 07:45 PM
This becomes a conversation every year. And you're correct. The worst NFL team would beat the best college team like a college team would beat a JV highschool team. It's not close. Of all the leaps, the leap from college to pro is easily the biggest. Almost everyone on the team was an absolute star of their college and high school teams. Yes, some people blossom later or are in bad situations and thus don't get scouted or drafted and they walk on etc etc. But most of them, if they were held a year or two behind or in a different situation, would have been the star of the team.
It's kinda reminds me of the men's vs women's tennis argument from years ago. There used to be a lot chatter about how the best women could stack up to men. I mean, the women got a LOT stronger in the 90's and 00's and eyeball test says it's possible, right? That was until the Williams sisters, who were ranked as the top women, said they could beat any man ranked lower than 200. They played the 203rd ranked man and he beat them in succession 6-1, 6-2. And it wasn't even as close as that would make it seem. Point being.. it looks like a top tier college team could challenge an NFL team. Um, actually no.
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Re: OL in the draft
oobernoober
12/12/25 01:04 PM
It's my belief that Wills was the backup option to the LT that went to NYG. What was left was the Bucs current LT and Mekhi Becton.
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Re: Trump publicly pushes Attorney General Pam Bondi to prosecute his political foes
PitDAWG
12/11/25 09:08 PM
DOJ fails for second time in seven days to indict James after the case was dismissed. I guess you really can't indict a ham sandwich...... For 2nd time, grand jury refuses to indict New York AG Letitia James: Sources A grand jury in Norfolk, Virginia, rejected the charges last week. For a second time in recent days, a federal grand jury in Virginia has refused to indict New York Attorney General Letitia James for alleged mortgage fraud, sources said, again rejecting the Department of Justice's attempt to refile the case after a federal judge dismissed an earlier case based on the unlawful appointment of the U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia. Federal prosecutors on Thursday failed to convince a majority of grand jurors to approve charges that James misled a bank to obtain favorable loan terms on a home mortgage, according to sources. The charges were presented to a grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia's Alexandria branch after a grand jury in Norfolk, Virginia, last week rejected the charges. A Justice Department spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment from ABC News. An attorney for James did not immediately comment. Prosecutors have alleged that James, who successfully brought a civil fraud case against now-President Donald Trump last year, falsely listed a home she purchased in 2020 as a second home instead of an investment property in order to save potentially $19,000 over the life of the loan with a more favorable mortgage rate. As ABC News previously reported, prosecutors who investigated James for possible mortgage fraud found evidence that appeared to undercut some of the allegations in the indictment of James secured in September -- including the degree to which James allegedly personally profited from her purchase of the property. James has denied all wrongdoing. https://abcnews.go.com/US/2nd-time-grand-jury-refuses-indict-new-york/story?id=128279779This is what an actual witch hunt looks like.
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Re: Somalians
PitDAWG
12/10/25 09:36 PM
So you are simply throwing out what you "think and feel" regarding the Steele Dossier' even though much of its content were shown to be true. Aw, those feelings mean so much.  So now you bring up the trans issue. Which once again has nothing to do with the topic. Having a "choice" isn't advocating anything other than to give women a choice. advocate; a person who publicly supports or recommends a particular cause or policy. The policy being advocated is choice, not to "advocate to murder the most innocent of human being's, unborn babies." Someone needs to buy you a dictionary for Christmas. Let me guess, you don't believe in the definition of words either? Yeah, the president who did everything in his power to cover up the Epstein files to protect pedophiles seems to be an issue you are having trouble understanding. I do not believe 99% of the crap the left has thrown up against Trump. You don't need to. Here is what you are not believing. You are not believing juries. Through all of your mindless rants it seems to have escaped you that it was not Biden who convicted trump. It was not Merrick Garland nor Letitia James. A jury convicted trump. A jury who heard the charges, listened to the evidence and made a decision based on that evidence to convict him. It wasn't the democrats who chose to settle all of those lawsuits. It was trump who settled those suits because he knew he couldn't win those lawsuits. It wasn't "the democrats" who found trump sexually assaulted E. Jean Carol. Once again it was a jury who heard all of the evidence. Once again you brought up a host of issues that had nothing to do with this topic. You blamed the democrats for the decision of juries and settlements trump agreed to. Sadly you can't see that what you have chosen to believe are the lies that spew from trump's face on a daily basis that proves he's a habitual liar. Yet you blame everyone else for it and pretend they are the evil ones. On July 31, the White House announced its plans for constructing the ballroom. While promoting the project at the White House, Trump said the ballroom "won't interfere with the current building. … It will be near it but not touching it. It pays total respect to the existing building, which I’m the biggest fan of. It’s my favorite place. I love it." How is that working out for you? I think the question you should be asking yourself is why do you believe anything trump tells you?
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Re: Ultra Processed Foods
PitDAWG
12/10/25 03:16 PM
I've never had to take any medication to offset side effects from another medication. I'm sure there are medications for things such as cancer that your assertion may be true. But when it comes to deciding whether to take more medications to offset side effects or death are your two choices the lesser of two evils comes into play.
Two points I think we do agree on is first that our food supply is directly connected to the need for many prescription medications. I believe the jury is pretty much in on that fact.
And secondly more directed to your fist point, I do believe that the main focus behind pharmaceutical companies R&D and drug development is far more focused on treating what ails us rather than curing what ails us. Curing what ails us is not a profitable business model.
So we're not too far off from total agreement.
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Re: Bernie
archbolddawg
12/10/25 01:12 AM
I’m glad, but surprised he got a liver after his past drinking caused the issue. They won’t give a smoker a new heart or lungs, just saying I’m surprised. The threshold is 6mos sobriety, sometimes they'll make an exception. Exceptions like having the transplant performed at UH who are the Browns medical partner with the influence and backing of the Haslams behind the scenes. Who knows? I don't think the transplant operation works like you are suggesting. My basketball coach had a liver transplant there about 12-14 months ago. He wasn't anyone special.
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