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Re: Cavs/NBA 2.0 YTownBrownsFan 02/05/26 05:49 AM
Cavs just barely eked out a win over the Clippers 124-91.

Whew. I hate squeekers like this. wink
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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates DeisleDawg 02/05/26 02:09 AM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie


saywhat


Refs, I thought this was originally posted in the Player News thread but it went here. Please delete.


Yes delete

I thought Memphis was losing his mind and saying Max was going to be the new DC smile smile lol J/K Memphis smile
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 ScottPlayersFacemask 02/05/26 01:43 AM
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Re: Major medical groups oppose gender transition surgeries for youth PrplPplEater 02/05/26 01:01 AM
Well, that's well overdue.
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Re: Garland Traded for Harden PrplPplEater 02/05/26 12:59 AM
I'm not up on that site... is that real or satire, because it feels like it could be real.
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Re: Player News PrplPplEater 02/05/26 12:54 AM
I'd give them our #24 and our 2nd rounder, maybe even throw in a 2027 3rd round
Maxx opposite Myles with Shelby & Mason would be sick.

Run defense would go up a ton and offenses would be pooping themselves trying to figure out how to effectively pass block that line.
We would likely never need to blitz and our secondary would be better for it.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? Damanshot 02/04/26 11:11 PM
What we have known for a while not, MAGA doesn't go deep when vetting someone for a position..Any position..

Either that or they simply don't care
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Re: OL in the draft hitt 02/04/26 09:30 PM
Tristan Wirfs, Wonderlic score- 23, played for Iowa= FIVE Pro Bowls, J Wills, Wonderlic score- 9.....then studied 23, Ala started= Pro Bowls, are you kidding me......Jimmy Johnson, can't fix stupid--- besides physical skill I hope they determine how good guy is knowing plays, etc., etc., Wills always seemed SLOW in interviews.

Maybe we have NEW scouts- we've bombed drafts during Berry's tenure-- sure hit home runs last draft- we need more home runs on O line this year.....GO Browns!!!
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Re: More Music PitDAWG 02/04/26 08:30 PM
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Re: Trump urges Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting PitDAWG 02/04/26 07:58 PM
People are "proving who they are". No non citizens can vote in national or state elections. There are some exceptions for local elections only.

There is currently legislation before congress to require a photo ID in order to vote.

None of what you posted actually addresses the federal government targeting only blue cities and states to take over their elections and them having the right to do so.
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Re: Log on difficulties... PrplPplEater 02/04/26 07:40 PM
I'm considering this issue as resolved.
Previously, I could not make two posts in a row without encountering the extremely long deadlocks and they would then result is delayed page loads as well. Since the most recent change, I have yet to experience a single issue, and while I'm not on here anywhere near as much as I used to be, I've been on several times across different time periods over the last couple of days. I've posted replies and edited posts, all without issue.
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Re: Todd Monken Introductory Press Conference 1oldMutt 02/04/26 07:14 PM
I think the media are generally a bunch of doofuses but if I were coming in to this job I’d kinda like to not have them despising me right off the bat. The Browns organization itself supplies plenty of crap to deflect and deter you from your work.
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Re: Rejecting Decades of Science, Vaccine Panel Chair Says Polio and Other Shots Should Be Optional PitDAWG 02/04/26 03:39 PM
Capitalism in action as a result of the dumbing down of America.
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Re: The. Dems. oobernoober 02/04/26 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

I've said it many times... this pushback against voter ID laws is one of the DNC's preferred ways in shooting itself in the foot.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 bonefish 02/04/26 01:02 PM
Well one thing stands out.

The North will not be the same. After close to 20 years Tomlin and Harbaugh are gone from the AFC North.

And here in Cleveland there is a new sheriff in town as well.

The Steelers look like a team that will begin a fall. I don't see Rodgers playing again and even if he does. They do not look like a team on the rise.

The Ravens? No doubt a culture change there. Lamar was hurt most of the year. He is beginning to show that he will not be what he once was. No matter he is still a great player. I don't know what to expect from the Ravens both on offense and defense. They may slide a bit from where they were. Change is not always good.

Bengals have the longest tenured head coach. That in itself is strange because of the underachieving teams. The Bengals are right up there. They have the quarterback and receivers. But they have not been able to put a good offense and defense on the field. Something is not working there.

Then there is the Browns.

We fall into the wait and see mode. New head coach and a good defense. We know that every effort will be made to upgrade offensive performance.

It begins with the OL. We need front line talent and depth.

Quarterback is still in question. At least Shedeur has seven games in the vault. That small sample gives him a starting point. He should know what he has to do to be a better quarterback. I expect an addition to the QB room. Either a free agent like Willis or drafting a guy maybe Simpson.

It will be another year of going into the off season without a straight answer at quarterback.

We have to add receivers. If we are ever going to be an offensive threat. We need difference makers at receiver.

With or without Jim Schwartz we have a talented defense. It would be better if Schwartz returns. But a new DC is going to make the defense go down the tubes.

IMO we can be a better team. How good will depend upon the play at quarterback more than any single other factor.
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Re: Goofy Immortal Part Deux MemphisBrownie 02/03/26 09:37 PM
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Re: ICE Continued PitDAWG 02/03/26 09:06 PM
Two CBP Agents Identified in Alex Pretti Shooting

The two federal immigration agents who fired on Minneapolis protester Alex Pretti are identified in government records as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez.

The two federal immigration agents who fired on Minneapolis protester Alex Pretti are identified in government records as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez.

The records viewed by ProPublica list Ochoa, 43, and Gutierrez, 35, as the shooters during the deadly encounter last weekend that left Pretti dead and ignited massive protests and calls for criminal investigations.

Both men were assigned to Operation Metro Surge, an immigration enforcement dragnet launched in December that sent scores of armed and masked agents across the city.

CBP, which employs both men, has so far refused to release their names and has disclosed few other facts about the deadly incident, which came days after a different immigration agent shot and killed another Minneapolis protester, a 37-year-old mother of three named Renee Good.

Pretti’s killing, and the subsequent secrecy surrounding the agents involved, comes as the country confronts the consequences of President Donald Trump’s aggressive immigration crackdown. The sweeps in cities across the country have been marked by scenes of violence, against immigrants and U.S. citizens, by agents allowed to hide their identities with masks — an almost unheard of practice in law enforcement. As a result, the public has been kept from one of the chief ways it has to hold officers involved in such altercations accountable: their identity.

Both Democratic and Republican lawmakers have called for a transparent investigation into the killing of Pretti, a 37-year-old intensive care unit nurse working at a Department of Veterans Affairs hospital.

“We must have a transparent, independent investigation into the Minnesota shooting, and those responsible—no matter their title—must be held accountable,” Republican Sen. John Curtis of Utah wrote on X on Monday.

The agency sent a notice to some members of Congress on Tuesday acknowledging that two agents fired Glock pistols during the altercation that left Pretti dead. That notice does not include the agents’ names. A spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees CBP, said the agents had been placed on leave after the Jan. 24 shooting. And after a week of protests and calls from lawmakers for a review, the Justice Department said Friday that its Civil Rights Division is investigating the shooting. A DOJ spokesperson did not answer questions, including whether DHS has shared materials, such as body-camera footage, with its investigators.

Ochoa is a Border Patrol agent who joined CBP in 2018. Gutierrez joined in 2014 and works for CBP’s Office of Field Operations. He is assigned to a special response team, which conducts high-risk operations like those of police SWAT units. Records show both men are from South Texas.

In the aftermath of the shooting, Gregory Bovino, who has orchestrated high-intensity immigration sweeps and arrests in a string of Democratic-led cities since early 2025, was removed from his role as Border Patrol commander at large and reassigned to his former post in El Centro, California.

A spokesperson for DHS declined to answer questions about the two agents and referred ProPublica to the FBI. The FBI declined to comment. ProPublica made several attempts to call Ochoa and Gutierrez but neither answered.

Ochoa, who goes by Jesse, graduated from the University of Texas-Pan American with a degree in criminal justice, according to his ex-wife, Angelica Ochoa. A longtime resident of the Rio Grande Valley, Ochoa had for years dreamed of working for the Border Patrol and finally landed a job there, she said. By the time the couple split in 2021, he had become a gun enthusiast with about 25 rifles, pistols and shotguns, Angelica Ochoa said.

DHS’ disclosure to Congress was drawn from an internal review of the agents’ body-camera footage, which has not been released to the public. State investigators, meanwhile, have accused their federal counterparts of blocking them from investigating the shooting.

“We don’t have any information on the shooters,” a Minneapolis city spokesperson said. A spokesperson for Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said Tuesday that his office also had “not been given the names, and we don’t have any new information on the investigation.”

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee, in a letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi Monday, accused the Justice Department of covering up evidence in both Pretti’s and Good’s killings.

“DOJ has also blocked prosecutors and agents from cooperating with state law enforcement officials and prevented state officials from accessing evidence,” the letter said.

Maryland Rep. Jamie Raskin, the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, told CNN on Sunday that immigration agents should not be masked.

“They should not be anonymous. They should be identifiable. And they have to have rules of engagement that don’t allow them to terrorize and intimidate, harass and assault U.S. citizens and other people,” he said.

The notice to Congress said that the shooting happened when Pretti resisted arrest after officers were unable to get him and a female protester out of the street.

The CBP officer “attempted to move the woman and Pretti out of the roadway. The woman and Pretti did not move,” the report reads. “CBP personnel attempted to take Pretti into custody. Pretti resisted CBP personnel’s efforts and a struggle ensued.”

According to the report, one agent then yelled “He’s got a gun!” multiple times, and two others “discharged” their Glock pistols.

In videos widely shared online, Pretti can be seen holding up a phone, documenting the movements of federal agents and officers as they roamed the streets of a popular food and arts district. According to news reports, Pretti was concerned about the increasingly volatile siege of the city by federal agents.

In the videos, a masked agent appears to knock a woman to the ground. Pretti comes to her aid, getting between them, at which point the officer deploys pepper spray at his face. Two agents then grab Pretti and pull him to the ground, while more federal personnel pile on. During the struggle, the agents unleash a series of shots — approximately 10 — as onlookers scream.

Pretti was armed at the time of the encounter with a legally owned handgun, according to state and federal officials. Some analyses of bystander video appear to show a federal agent taking Pretti’s gun from his hip before the first shots were fired. The agents’ masks and the chaos of the altercation make it difficult to differentiate one from another.

Those videos appear to contradict the claims by Bovino and other officials, including DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, that Pretti had come to attack agents.

“The agents attempted to disarm the individual, but he violently resisted,” Bovino said in a Jan. 25 news conference. “Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, a Border Patrol agent fired defensive shots.”

In the initial aftermath, Stephen Miller, a top Trump aide and a leading force behind the immigration enforcement operations, called Pretti “a would-be assassin.” But Miller changed tack later in the week when he said in a statement that CBP officers “may not have been following” protocol related to confronting bystanders.

Additional video has surfaced showing Pretti in another altercation with federal agents 11 days before he was killed. The video shows Pretti yelling at the agents, who get in an SUV and start to drive away. Pretti then kicks out the taillight of the vehicle and the agents, who wore protective masks, jump out and tackle him to the ground.

It is unclear if any of the same agents were involved in both incidents.

Lauren Bonds, executive director of the National Police Accountability Project, said that many local and state police departments are “much more transparent” than CBP when officers shoot people. “More and more police departments are choosing to release bodycam footage or dashcam footage within a couple of days.”

Gil Kerlikowske, a former CBP commissioner, told ProPublica that it’s difficult to draw conclusions from the chaos in bystander videos. Still, he said, the shooting might have been prevented. Pretti’s attempt to help the woman knocked to the ground could have been seen as interfering with federal law enforcement, he said. But the decision by the officers to immediately use pepper spray created a chaotic scene that likely contributed to Pretti’s death.

“The other agent could have said ‘don’t interfere’ or ‘stand back,’” Kerlikowske said. “Rather than move immediately to pepper spray, you can arrest the person.” It’s part of a pattern, he said, of federal officers jumping straight to use of force in situations that could have been de-escalated but instead create danger for both agents and their targets.

Pretti’s death, and the federal government’s characterization of the event, sparked immediate protests, spurring thousands of people to go out into frigid conditions in Minneapolis and other American cities. The shooting has also drawn intense criticism from political leaders, including Walz, who has promised his state’s law enforcement will conduct its own criminal investigation.

https://www.propublica.org/article/...dentified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez

What hides in the darkness shall be brought into the light.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 02/03/26 04:12 PM
Sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY!

Turning Point U.S.A.'s Alternative Half Time Show!

Sponsored by Sister Wife brand Bathtub Meth...............

"You think your brother in law is crazy but he's just methed up!"

Headlined by Kid Rock who will be bringing his automatic rifle and a case of Bud Light for the grand finale'!

The National Anthem will be performed by Rosanne Barr!

Featuring the kissing cousin cam!

There will be a catalytic converter collection competition held in the parking lot during the event run by George Santos. All catalytic converters will be donated to trump's secret rare earth mineral stash if Santos can manage to deliver them without stealing them first!

Kanye was scheduled to perform but claims he can't make it because by some miracle he found his sanity.
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Re: Browns Hire Travis Switzer as OC PitDAWG 02/03/26 03:18 PM
The common thread is that for the most part his O staff is from Baltimore. They have worked together all along and I would think it's safe to say that "keeping the boys together" is a common theme they are in agreement with. Monken may be announcing the hires but it would be logical to conclude it's a joint effort they are all a part of.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC Milk Man 02/02/26 06:08 PM
The player that intrigues me the most on your list of Ravens FAs is Isaiah Likely.
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Re: 2026 NFL Salary Cap PitDAWG 02/02/26 03:35 PM
That's true. What looks like overpaying will seem like a bargain just a couple of years down the road.
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Re: DOJ, FBI conclude Jeffrey Epstein had no "client list," committed suicide PitDAWG 02/02/26 03:30 PM
I'm pretty much where you are with this. I don't find it unbelievable but do not consider a single source as verification. I would think if true the press would be all over this.
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Re: Conference Championships FATE 02/02/26 02:30 AM
Originally Posted by hitt
Age 45 is suggested age you NOT shovel snow-- life is too short, snow blower or hire.

Hell to the no. I'll shovel snow until I die. I did mine, the in-laws and the neighbors last week. Thousands of pounds of snow - "and I liked it"!
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Re: Browns News 6.0 Milk Man 02/01/26 11:13 PM
j/c…

Off to Paris. À Bientôt!

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Re: college quarterback prospects bonefish 02/01/26 12:39 PM
Nussmeier is an interesting prospect.

He does remind me of Brees.

He can spin it. College results are not always the sole criterion for evaluation.

You always have to project how a guy handles the transition to the pros. That is why it so difficult.

Because he does not have the ideal measureables and how the season went. He probably goes late first or second round.

He falls into the great "hit or miss" type guy.

Depending on how the draft goes. He might be worth the risk.
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