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Re: Media and Shedeur PitDAWG 12/19/25 07:32 PM
I don't really disagree with your premise. I think they had a decision to make. Either try to see if they could address the QB position with lower picks which would give them huge ammunition in this upcoming draft at other positions of need or whether to try and address at least part of the other glaring holes on the team then. There's one way that they can't lose. If they decide there's not enough evidence to roll with Sanders, I still think he's shown enough to trade him for a higher draft pick than they spent on him. I believe the ROI at that point would have made him a wise choice.

And besides, I've never heard a team complain about having too many good QB's. By good I don't mean franchise QB's I just mean QB's who can play at a decent level. Even a decent backup QB with a fifth round pick is a good pick.

I know you bag on the Gabriel pick. And hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But Gabriele played in one of the, if not the top conferences in the nation. They won a lot of games against good teams and even beat the Buckeyes who were the #1 team in the country. Sure in the rematch OSU made him look far less than stellar. But it's hard to beat the Buckeyes once in a season, much less twice. He had a good pedigree. I can't say I blame them for taking a shot with him.

And as we can both see, where a player is "projected" to go in the draft and where they get selected are often two totally different things.

I don't think it's unreasonable to believe if those who missed the projections on Sanders by 4 rounds it's rather disingenuous to keep carrying on about how it was this FO who missed the Gabriel by 2 rounds. If those same people whiffed on the Sanders projections it's not hard to believe those same people whiffed on the Gabriel projection too.

It almost as if you are saying they were brilliant for getting a 1st round projected pick in round 5 but were idiots for selecting a 5th round projected player in round 3.
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Re: What Now PitDAWG 12/19/25 07:05 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Does he want AB/KS making that call? If he keeps them in place and the team does not improve in 26. Then he could have a quarterback they selected. And then decide to have a new regime putting them in a position with qbs they don't like.

Because of that scenario he may decide to make a change after this year.

That may be true. As you said it's pretty much a guessing game. I think much of that decision will rest with who it was making a huge push to land watson. Someone initiated and pushed for that move. While I agree nobody most likely applied pressure in the opposite direction to any degree, someone was so determined to land him they made s second trip to sign him after he had already said Cleveland was off the list. In doing so they gave an arm and a leg to get that deal done.

I think most would agree at least in large part this is what has culminated since that trade to be a major factor in where they find themselves now.

I don't think we'll ever know the answer to that question for sure.

Haslam may have been the one making that push and will be looking for a fall guy. He may think that even with the constraints they faced after making this trade the results should still have been better in maintaining a competitive roster from Berry. It may have been Berry making that push and Haslam will hold him responsible. It may be both Berry and Haslam feel Stefanski should be producing better results with the roster he has been given.

Or, Haslam may realize by him insisting on and giving up so much for watson it was he who created this situation and give this FO and HC a chance to rebuild.

One thing is pretty much a certainty. It's almost unheard of to get a new GM who would retain the current HC. If in fact Haslam places the majority of the watson deal on Berry, it's a very rare case where a new GM doesn't insist on his own HC. And if you get a new GM who will keep the existing HC, I doubt that would be a highly regarded candidate.

Time will tell I suppose.
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Re: Trump Campaign Promises Part 6 PitDAWG 12/19/25 06:22 PM
That is 100% correct. But you know he feels compelled to say "Look at what I did for you!" whether he did it or not.

"Tariff money" is nothing but an import tax inflicted on American businesses and taxpayers.
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Re: college quarterback prospects Homewood Dog 12/19/25 05:47 PM
I remember us saying that about Allar. He does have the size and arm strength. He has that Josh Allen look about him but needs to be developed. I remember that there were a few so called draft experts that weren’t high on Allen too.
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Re: OL in the draft 10YrOvernightSuccess 12/19/25 04:59 PM
Even if Callahan isn't hired as a full time coach, give him $1M as advisor, the OL coach's coach. Make it interesting for him, hire his son as well. The before and after with him was so dramatic. I mean, we're a wholly different team after he left. I'm not putting it all on him but gosh, the OL just completely fell apart the minute he walked out of the room.
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Re: Trump won’t rule out war with Venezuela PitDAWG 12/19/25 04:03 PM
House rejects limits on Trump’s military actions against Venezuela

WASHINGTON — The House on Wednesday rejected two measures aimed at stopping President Donald Trump from carrying out additional strikes on suspected drug boats or attacking Venezuela without congressional approval as lawmakers remained divided over the administration’s military actions in South America.

The votes — 210-216 for the drug boat measure and 211-213 for the Venezuela resolution — marked the latest attempt by mostly Democrats and a handful of Republicans to assert Congress’ constitutional authority to declare war after two recent failed efforts in the Senate.

The flurry of congressional activity comes as the Trump administration escalates its pressure campaign against Venezuela, seizing an oil tanker carrying Venezuelan oil, ordering a blockade of sanctioned oil tankers into and out of the country and continuing to attack boats suspected of smuggling drugs.

Trump warned on social media Tuesday that the massive buildup of military assets near Venezuela — the largest in decades — “will only get bigger, and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before.”

Alarmed lawmakers on Wednesday said it was imperative for Congress to weigh in as Trump threatens land strikes inside Venezuela and uses the military to bomb alleged drug-trafficking boats in the Caribbean and eastern Pacific, many near Venezuela.

The Constitution gives Congress, not the president, the authority to declare war, and the 1973 War Powers Resolution requires the president to seek approval from Congress before introducing armed forces “into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances.”

Democratic Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts, who introduced the measure prohibiting military action against Venezuela without congressional authorization, said service members were already being put at risk.

“American troops take an oath to protect and defend this country — it is our duty in Congress to debate and vote before they are put into harm’s way,” said McGovern. “Right now, by placing U.S. military assets off the coast of Venezuela, this administration has them in harm’s way.”

White House chief of staff Susie Wiles conceded in an interview published Tuesday that “activity on land” in Venezuela would need congressional authorization. But the Trump administration has suggested it does not need lawmaker approval for the boat strikes because the vessels are mostly being hit by drones far from U.S. naval forces.

Lawmakers this week received several classified briefings on the boat bombing campaign, which has killed at least 99 people in 26 attacks. Democrats are continuing to push for the public release of unedited videos showing the initial Sept. 2 strike and a controversial follow-up strike that killed two survivors.

Rep. Mike Rogers of Alabama, the Republican chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, expressed support Wednesday for the operation targeting drug boats and said Trump was acting “decisively and lawfully” within his authority as commander-in-chief to combat cartels.

“These strikes are lawful under U.S. law and international laws and all actions are in compliance with the law of armed conflict,” he said. “But most importantly, these strikes have dramatically reduced drug smuggling operations.”

Rep. Gregory Meeks of New York, the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, left Tuesday’s briefing questioning Trump’s motivations regarding Venezuela.

“It doesn’t seem to be just about narcotics trafficking,” Meeks said. “So if this is about regime change, it seems to me that the administration should say that’s what it is and should come to Congress to ask for that authorization, which has not taken place.”

Meeks led the resolution to remove U.S. troops “from hostilities with any presidentially designated terrorist organization in the Western Hemisphere” without congressional authorization.

Republican Brian Mast of Florida, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and an Army combat veteran, argued against both resolutions Wednesday, saying they would tie the president’s hands. He echoed the Trump administration’s contention that Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro is a narco-terrorist who is poisoning Americans.

But Republican Thomas Massie of Kentucky, a co-sponsor of the resolution requiring congressional approval for military action in Venezuela, cast doubt on the administration’s stated focus on drugs — “this is about oil and regime change,” he said.

He urged fellow lawmakers to demand a say over how the president deploys the military.

“All we’re voting on is a war powers resolution that strengthens the fabric of our republic by reasserting the plain and simple language in the Constitution that Congress must decide questions of war,” he said.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us...-military-action-venezuela-20127592.html
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Re: Trump claims to pardon jailed Colorado election clerk Tina Peters, but state officials contend it's unconstitutional PitDAWG 12/19/25 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I think he is looking at the Monroe Doctrine. Good for him. Keep an eye out for the western hemisphere.

How are we "under attack" from Venezuela?

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Know it or not, the USA is under attack by foreign forces.

Other than an attack by a single ISIS terrorist in Syria, exactly how is America "under attack"?

Oh that's right, trump designated Fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction. Sadly for those who believe everything he tells you, Fentanyl isn't a WMD and it isn't coming from Venezuela.

Attack doesn't have to mean a shot being fired.

So you refuse to answer what you mean by......

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Know it or not, the USA is under attack by foreign forces.

Got it. So you're just going to throw vague crap out here with no explanation as to what you're referring to.
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Re: Trump says Rob Reiner's death caused by "Trump derangement syndrome" PitDAWG 12/19/25 03:02 PM
No. Unlike so many, I figured it out before he was elected the first time. You wanted nasty and you got it.
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Re: More Music GMdawg 12/19/25 08:37 AM
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Re: Browns News 6.0 FATE 12/19/25 12:32 AM
Urinal screen. 🤣
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Re: Are we tanking? PitDAWG 12/18/25 09:16 PM
The unneeded hero always shows up in the end to save Dawtalkers from evil.

Yes arch, it means the exact same thing.

rofl
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Re: Off Grid YTownBrownsFan 12/18/25 03:16 PM
Life Uncontained is pretty good. A young couple who built a home out of shipping containers and are now building a shipping container cabin in a section of woods they bought.

Tiny Shiny Home is a family who moved to the desert and are building a home out of native soil. (in long bags) It gets a bit repetative, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Good Simple Living is another one I watch. They seem like decent people, and have a toy drive for kids with cancer every Christmas.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? PerfectSpiral 12/18/25 02:58 PM
Anybody that believes anything that Trump says is a damn fool.

Anybody seen “Gunny in the wild”? What he says? Total truth.
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Re: Exclusive: US threatens new ICC sanctions unless court pledges not to prosecute Trump PerfectSpiral 12/18/25 02:54 PM
Follow the money ICC. Prosecute!
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Gil Gerard (Buck Rogers) passes at 82 YTownBrownsFan 12/18/25 02:03 PM
RIP Buck

Gil Gerard, Star of TV Series ‘Buck Rogers,’ Dies at 82 - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/17/arts/gil-gerard-buck-rogers-dead.html

Gil Gerard, an actor best known for his role as Buck Rogers in the science-fiction television show “Buck Rogers in the 25th Century,” died on Tuesday in hospice care in Georgia. He was 82.

His death, from cancer, was announced in a social media post by his wife, Janet Gerard.

Gilbert Cyril Gerard was born on Jan. 23, 1943, in Little Rock, Ark. He attended the University of Central Arkansas, where he was part of a singing group and acted and directed plays.

He later worked as an industrial chemist in Arkansas, conducting studies of the petroleum industry.

“But I was just kind of bored,” he told Tulsa World in 2017. “I was like this is OK, but this is not something I want to be doing when I’m 70.”

In the late 1960s, Mr. Gerard decided to quit his job and move to New York City, where he drove a taxi, working 12-hour shifts overnight while attending acting school.

He began his career in show business as a model and working in television commercials — more than 400 by his count — before landing roles in soap operas, including “The Doctors,” and in films, like “Airport ’77,” in which he played a love interest.

Mr. Gerard was approached in the late 1970s to play the role of William “Buck” Rogers, which was based on a character in a comic strip that began running in newspapers in 1929 and that was later adapted for radio and film. At first, he wasn’t interested.

“I don’t want to do this campy stuff,” he recalled thinking, in a 2018 interview. “I saw what it did to Adam West’s career with ‘Batman,’ and this was another cartoon character.”

After turning down the part twice, his agent asked him to at least read the script before he passed on the project.

“So I read it, and I said, ‘Well, yeah, I like the character,’” he said. “Got a good sense of humor. It’s kind of fun.”

Mr. Gerard signed onto the project, a film that would later become the pilot for “Buck Rogers in the 25th Century,” which ran on NBC for two seasons, from 1979 to 1981.

The series, created in the wake of the movie “Star Wars,” takes place in the year 2491 and follows Buck Rogers, a pilot who is launched into space on America’s last deep-space probe, only to be frozen in time for 500 years. When he wakes up, he discovers that Earth has been through a nuclear holocaust and is populated with humans, exotic aliens and robots.

Buck is a freelance problem-solver of sorts, fighting baddies and sharing the best of 1970s culture — including disco — with the rest of the galaxy.

“I thought the character had a sense of reality about him,” Mr. Gerard said in 2017. “He wasn’t a stiff kind of a guy. He was a guy who could solve problems on his feet, and he wasn’t a superhero.”

Despite running for only two seasons, the show was well-received among viewers and for years has been remembered fondly by fans.

Mr. Gerard went on to produce the 1983 Broadway musical “Amen Corner,” adapted from a 1954 play by James Baldwin, and continued acting. In the 1990s, he had roles in the CBS series “E.A.R.T.H. Force” and on the NBC soap opera “Days of Our Lives.”

In 2007, he appeared in a documentary on the Discovery Health Channel, “Action Hero Makeover,” which chronicled his decision to have gastric bypass surgery after struggling for years with obesity.

Speaking in 2018, Mr. Gerard said that what he enjoyed most about making movies was the way it brought groups of people together. “When you’re on a movie set, it’s like there’s such a great energy on that set, because it’s all aimed at getting the day’s work done,” he said. “Doing the best job you can.”

In addition to his wife, he is survived by his son, Gib, whom he had with his first wife, the actor Connie Sellecca.

When announcing his death, Ms. Gerard also posted a note that Mr. Gerard had recently written on social media.

“If you are reading this, then Janet has posted it as I asked her to,” it read. “My life has been an amazing journey. The opportunities I’ve had, the people I’ve met and the love I have given and received have made my 82 years on the planet deeply satisfying.”

“Don’t waste your time on anything that doesn’t thrill you or bring you love,” he added. “See you out somewhere in the cosmos.”
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Re: Dawgtalkers Pickum Pool Dawgs4Life 12/17/25 06:53 PM
nice week arch
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Re: Mahomes tears ACL oobernoober 12/17/25 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
I feel like Burrow may be about twelve months from dancing with the Stars and American Eagle jeans commercials.

I always kinda got the feeling Burrow was a guy that played football because he was really really good at it. Being in Cinci, I see him play/talk a LOT.

I finished the second season of Quarterback on Netflix not long ago, and Burrow was the LEAST impressive of the bunch (Goff, Cousins, Burrow, and I think someone else that I'm forgetting).
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Re: Player News bonefish 12/17/25 11:48 AM
We are a bad team; BUT we have an excuse.

We don't have a quarterback and haven't had one since Baker.

The Bengals have Burrow who is damn good and they can't win. Plus Mike Brown doesn't pay. Haslam at least will spend.

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Re: Arch Manning PitDAWG 12/16/25 10:09 PM
I agree. I think this is best for him.
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Re: Trump says survivors of scrutinized US strike were trying to right boat before 2nd missile was fired OCD 12/16/25 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
I’ve figured out why Trump has turned into such a mean old man. Jeff and his supply of underage girls are gone.

Nope. It’s because after his first term he was universally despised and wants payback. The pettiest man alive.
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Re: Genocide. PitDAWG 12/16/25 04:43 PM
And when it's white people he will attempt to create a genocide that doesn't exists..................

South Africa crime statistics debunk 'white genocide' claims - minister

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgr5xe7z0y0o
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Re: Shutdown appears inevitable after Senate fails to pass funding plans OCD 12/16/25 03:35 PM
Originally Posted by northlima dawg
Just in case anybody forgot-the next round of how dysfunctional our current leaders in DC are is coming up in 45 days.
Yup, Jan 30 is the date for the next shutdown.

The good news is that if all the retirements take place in January, the house will flip before that funding deadline. The bad news is Trump will hurt working class and poor Americans if dems don’t play ball just like last time.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 MemphisBrownie 12/15/25 08:41 PM
Guardians Manager Stephen Vogt Signed Multi-Year Extension
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025...en-vogt-signed-multi-year-extension.html
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Re: Tomlin oobernoober 12/15/25 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by tastybrownies
Under Eric Mangini the Browns played some of the most inspired football I have ever seen.

I still remember that winning stretch at the end of the season and Jerome Harrison. And he actually held people accountable! IMAGINE THAT!!!!! We get the opposite today under Stefanski.

I always remember back to the murmurs we were hearing about Mangini and Daboll (our OC). Accountability, yes... but it also got really weird. There's a blurb out there from a vet that through Berea like a tumbleweed, and he described a bunch of weirdness going on, particularly on the offensive side. For some reason, Mangini and Daboll were really grinding on Colt McCoy to the point where it made some of the older players uncomfortable.
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Re: WNBA Threatening Strike PitDAWG 12/15/25 03:37 PM
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